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Post# 243604 10/20/2007 at 18:27 (6,030 days old) by pulsator  (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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| Post# 243605 , Reply# 1 10/20/2007 at 18:43 (6,030 days old) by 2drumsallergy () | ||
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Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte GmbH Hi Jamie, Gaggenau is a brand name of BSH Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte GmbH. David CLICK HERE TO GO TO 2drumsallergy's LINK | ||
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Post# 243634 , Reply# 2 10/20/2007 at 21:26 (6,030 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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| Post# 243664 , Reply# 3 10/20/2007 at 23:59 (6,029 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Their cooking.... is said to be very good. I have a lustful desire for their 36 inch wide oven. Other than that, I don't know any more about Gaggenau. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 243674 , Reply# 4 10/21/2007 at 01:33 (6,029 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Hi Lawrence,
Gaggenau like Juno and Miele Refrigerators/Freezers (bet that will have a few snob's knickers in a twist) as well as several other "high-quality" brands are built by B/S/H. I worked with the B/S/H enginners (teaching English, translating) and was very surprised to learn that they build the Miele range of cooling appliances. Sure, they said - same quality as our cheapest stuff. Same assembly line, quality control, etc. Not valid for the washers, dishwashers they were quick to point out - there, Miele built better quality. Here in Europe, many manufacturers build for other manufacturers. The compressors used in almost all European refrigerators are built by a very well known (and not highly regarded) Italian firm...the motors used in many appliances across the board in the 70's and 80's were frequently from just three producers...and so on. One must never ignore the snob factor in marketing. I am sure Laundress could inform us far better of this than I can, but sometimes I just have to laugh at the comments some folks make about their special brand names...they pay twice or thrice for the name and naught else. Well, whatever floats your boat. This said, Gaggenau and Juno are a bit like Kitchen Aid and Jenn-Air. Once truly great brands, now-a-days they just exist to sell Roper technology to those who care more about brand names than quality. Neff and Constructa are two other Siemens/Bosch brands. There are quite a few more. I recently replaced my parent's US dishwasher. Wanted Miele or Bosch, but knew it was going to have to be, sigh, a US brand. Turns out the cheapest Amana (on sale for 250$) had exactly the same washing components as the Whirlpools and Maytags costing even 500$ more. They had fancy functions, snob appeal brand names...but the actual innards were the same, identical quality and material. Kinda makes you wonder... | ||
| Post# 243681 , Reply# 5 10/21/2007 at 04:17 (6,029 days old) by dascot (Scotland) | ||
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Miele fridges and freezers are Liebherr built, not Bosch-Siemens. They may use similar unseen bits, I don't know, but they're not the same as BSH. Gaggenau, I think, do have a few odd special features that you don't get on other BSH branded machines - though mostly it's styling. | ||
| Post# 243684 , Reply# 6 10/21/2007 at 05:45 (6,029 days old) by mrwash () | ||
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Juno? Sorry, do you mean that all the Juno products are built by BSH or just the Refrigerators/Freezers? Because Juno belongs to Electrolux, don`t they? I can't imagine that Electrolux lets BSH built all the Juno appliances. Does anyone know? | ||
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Post# 243689 , Reply# 7 10/21/2007 at 06:28 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243690 , Reply# 8 10/21/2007 at 06:29 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243691 , Reply# 9 10/21/2007 at 06:35 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243692 , Reply# 10 10/21/2007 at 06:37 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243693 , Reply# 11 10/21/2007 at 06:39 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243695 , Reply# 12 10/21/2007 at 06:43 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243697 , Reply# 13 10/21/2007 at 06:48 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243714 , Reply# 14 10/21/2007 at 08:34 (6,029 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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The Difference is Gaggenau....!!!!
Hi Jamie, Gaggenau is a very TOL German manufacturer of contempororary Kitchen Products, the products are high quality combined with matching aesthetics, they place great emphasis on Form a well as Function...A stand alone company until the mid 90`s when combined into the B/S/H group....if you really want style, edgy products with a twist then this company has it... You may find some of their Laundry Products still about, especially in commercial places, these where the ASKO made machines, although not currently produced...Heres a link to the website for history, products etc... CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK | ||
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Post# 243724 , Reply# 15 10/21/2007 at 09:10 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243725 , Reply# 16 10/21/2007 at 09:11 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243727 , Reply# 17 10/21/2007 at 09:17 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243728 , Reply# 18 10/21/2007 at 09:19 (6,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 243753 , Reply# 19 10/21/2007 at 12:49 (6,029 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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nope
I did see it with my own eyes. Worked in the factory for two years. If Kenmore can be built by various OEMS, why should it seem so damned impossible that Miele refrigeration is sourced by various ones, too? Liebherr definitely does build some Miele...and they have some very good products. For all I know - haven't walked the production line in Gingen since 2005 - B/S/H may, at this exact millisecond, not be sourcing more than some of the electronics. Any way you cut it, I'd rather go with Miele because of my positive experiences with their service than any other German brand. | ||
| Post# 243763 , Reply# 20 10/21/2007 at 13:42 (6,029 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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I had seen that Liftmatic Oven demonstrated on HGTV at the National Kitchen Show. A little different. There is a building here on Beltway 8 in Houston that has the Gaggenau name on the outside of it. Must be a zone warehouse/office or something. | ||
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Post# 243869 , Reply# 22 10/22/2007 at 00:03 (6,028 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Thanks, Marco.
Guess I ruffled one or two feathers there with the suggestion that one might, perhaps, have paid quite a bit for exclusivity and, in the end, be (gasp!) using the same thing as us plebes. There are folks here in Germany who, to this day, won't consider anything but Constructa for their washers; I still won't buy anything from Bauknecht even tho' I know that Whirlpool has long since addressed their "quality issues". Oh, I just love those harmless sounding words instead of saying the real thing. One of the pleasures of working with the B/S/H engineers was that I got to see (had to sign NDAs) some of their upcoming ideas. Design and engineering were on the same team and it really showed in their products. | ||
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Post# 243915 , Reply# 23 10/22/2007 at 08:45 (6,028 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 243919 , Reply# 24 10/22/2007 at 09:02 (6,028 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Post# 243959 , Reply# 25 10/22/2007 at 12:21 (6,028 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Contraption
From left to right: Timer, clock, radio and outlet. Steve, Yes, most of the fridges are not frost free, there is no fan. Personally I prefer those over the frost free ones, food from the frost free ones doesn't feel as cold as from the non-frost free ones The pictures of the fridges are all built in fridges, 123cm high and 56cm wide and are designed for building in a 60cm wide cabinet. And yes, Gaggenau is a status brand, just like Bulthaup kitchens. They appeal to people who like design, but it comes with a price. Personally I think it's all too expensive, but I must say I liked their 70's and 80's ovens. | ||
| Post# 243976 , Reply# 26 10/22/2007 at 13:41 (6,028 days old) by lavamat78800 () | ||
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Today I was working in an hotel and there we have a Gaggenau mini-stove. | ||
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Post# 243977 , Reply# 27 10/22/2007 at 13:43 (6,028 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 243980 , Reply# 28 10/22/2007 at 13:51 (6,028 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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varies
In the last few years we have really broken away from the old, fixed system of build-in-able fridges. Until very recently, you were more or less forced to pay extra unless you took: 50, 55 or 60cm wide by (roughly, please anal-retentives let's not start THAT one again) 60cm deep by 85-87cm high. Siemens also had a beautiful line up of 45 centimeter, upper scale fridges, stove and dishwashers for a while. May still - haven't looked. In the last 10 years or so, we have gotten all sorts of variations. Many folks now have much larger units, side by sides, etc. The retro look (google SMEG) is big. Actually, most fridges are self-defrosting in the cooler section but not in the freezer. I've said it before: The only two US appliances which are better than our European stuff are dryers and fridges. If I had the space, I'd take both in a New York minute. | ||
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