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Post# 244629   10/25/2007 at 18:50 (4,230 days old) by bellalaundry (Hamilton, Canada)        

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Does Miele make pedestals for their washers? I'm looking for one that would fit the w1918.



Post# 244649 , Reply# 1   10/25/2007 at 21:40 (4,230 days old) by sudsmaster (East of SF, West of Eden, California)        

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I think I saw some pedestals for the last in the series of 220 volt washers for sale in the US during my last visit to the local Miele dealership. They would probably fit the 1918.

Post# 244676 , Reply# 2   10/26/2007 at 02:28 (4,230 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Given the weight and design

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Of that Miele series, I would seriously consider concrete.
Those washers were originally intended for very solid floors like we have here in Germany, not the relatively free swinging pedestals which more modern, lighter suspensions feel comfortable on.
There were, however, pedestals made specifically for this model, and I can remember reading about them over at the garden they made it to the US. Gosh, those people make our most "energetic" UK members look mild as lambs. What is their problem?

Post# 244698 , Reply# 3   10/26/2007 at 07:37 (4,229 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Miele did/does indeed make pedestals for both the W1918 and the W1986 (which was several inches deeper and had a totally different front). They are very heavy and solid. The machines bolt to them beautifully. They have no storage provisions like a drawer offered in some pedestals. Miele Canada would probably be able to help you locate one. I found mine on the US Appliance website, IIRC. Having the machines raised makes a big difference in convenience and puts the windows at the optimum height for the viewing the laundry channel.

Not wanting to insult your intelligence, but you put all of the shipping braces back in the machine and place it on its side to bolt the pedestal on. When you tip the machine on its side, place a folded rug at the midpoint of the machine on the cloth or rug that covers the floor. That allows you to pivot the top of the machine down to secure the bottom side of the pedestal as well as give you a way to get your hands under the side of the machine to lift it back upright. My machines are on the concrete basement floor and are very steady on the pedestals. Years ago, we put my first Miele on a base of concrete blocks which we glued to the floor using silicone sealer and we made a border around the top to contain the machine if it should decide to to a vibration migration, but the good grip of the rubber shoes against the rough surface of the blocks held her steady. While that worked, I decided to install the new machines with the proper pedestals.

Post# 244717 , Reply# 4   10/26/2007 at 10:07 (4,229 days old) by bellalaundry (Hamilton, Canada)        

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I like Tom's idea using concrete blocks! Much cheaper, and since the pedestals do not provide any storage...why not! My laundry room is in the basement with concrete floors as well, so esthetics are not primary!

What did you do to make your "border" around the edges in case of machine migration?


Post# 245512 , Reply# 5   10/31/2007 at 20:10 (4,224 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

You can make it out of wood like 1 X 1 trim glued down. The way I arranged the blocks, only the solid sides showed. You can even use mastic and glue vinyl, ceramic or marble floor tiles on the exposed sides. The one word of caution about this platform is that the washer has to be lifted exactly vertically on and off the platform since it's not going to be far enough away from the wall to remove the shipping braces. You cannot allow the machine to tip forward at any time which it will want to do because of the weights on the front of the tub. There are things at the front of the suspended mechanism that can be broken. I guess that you could construct the block platform and add a few temporary blocks to the side of it so that there would be space to lift the washer onto the platform with room to turn it sideways to remove the braces and then turn it 1/4 turn so that the back is facing the wall.

Post# 245801 , Reply# 6   11/2/2007 at 10:06 (4,222 days old) by mrx ()        

My parents was built in the 1950s and, as many houses here of that era, it has a laundry room located outside. i.e. you walk out the back door (kitchen) and across the yard to a generously sized laundry room. It contains a large sink, kitchen cabinets and large 3.5ft tall solid concrete pedestal for mounting your washer and dryer! It's the absolutely ideal solution and their Miele pair are very happy sitting up on it!

The room also contains the central heating boiler (about the size of a standard Euro washing machine) + has plenty of space for hanging clothes to dry and doing the Ironing. It's quite a pleasant room! It even has a door that opens out on to the garden for easy access to washing lines.

Sadly, builders got mean by the late 1970s and such large laundry rooms became much less common place and the tendency was to just have a little laundry room off the kitchen or to just install the laundry appliances into the built in kitchen (although that's not as common here as it is in other parts of Europe)

It's a fantastic idea though - although I know in harsher climates like the east coast of the US it would be a tad impractical in winter.

Post# 245811 , Reply# 7   11/2/2007 at 10:43 (4,222 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Three and a half feet above the floor? Doesn't that make access to the dispenser drawer difficult? I would feel like they were waiting like jungle cats to pounce on me sitting that high. I like my washers and dryers, but don't really want them towering over me, but if everyone is happy with that who am I to say anything? Nobody.

So the pipes from the boiler go under the yard to your house? How far is that?

Post# 245831 , Reply# 8   11/2/2007 at 12:22 (4,222 days old) by mrx ()        

It doesn't make the machines too high -- perhaps it's more like 2.5ft (I'm not great on imperial measures!!) It actually is a nice height with a standard European size washing machine on the top. Quite similar to the height of a commercial machine. I think in the original installation it might have even been used for a bolt-down front loader!

The house is attached to the laundry room, so the pipes go straight in.

However, many homes of a similar era here have separate boiler houses. They were common when oil-fired pressure-jet systems were the norm. The reason was two fold 1) The boilers were quite noisy and created a constant rumble when they were running and 2) for fire safety, in the 1950s the control systems were not quite so advanced so it was considered a lot safer to have the boiler in a different structure.

Typically it was just a little brick shed with a flue - the hot water pipes would actually cross (extremely well insulated) under the ground for several feet!! -

Post# 245834 , Reply# 9   11/2/2007 at 13:03 (4,222 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
mean means tight not nasty

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I needed a second to remember that outside of the US, "mean" also means (sorry, couldn't resist) miserly, as in Ebenezer Scrooge.

For a moment there, I was wondering if the architects in the islands had all gotten a severe case of nastiness.

When you consider what Christoper Wren did and others after him, that would have been quite a come-down.

It's ironic that the US is so determinedly anti-metric. In so many, many ways the country tried its very best to distance itself from the "Mother" otherwise...
(and I can just hear the UK crowd saying: especially in the language).

3.5 feet would be about 3cm shy of a meter (purposefully left that approximate to give the anal-retentive something to do), so you can see why those machines would be celebrating Halloween all the year at that height.

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