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Post# 245988   11/3/2007 at 06:21 (6,011 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

its been a bit quiet on the classic machine front, but there were/are a few on today.

First off, yet another Zanussi WDI9091. Like buses, you wait for ages (namely 20 years) and then they all come at once:



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Post# 245989 , Reply# 1   11/3/2007 at 06:23 (6,011 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

next up - a lovely Hotpoint 17460 Super Dryer de luxe.

a perfect match for any 18580 owner - hint hint!!!


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Post# 245990 , Reply# 2   11/3/2007 at 06:24 (6,011 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and finally for today

a Philips D165 dryer

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Post# 246006 , Reply# 3   11/3/2007 at 08:21 (6,011 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

You know, i would love to know when someone will sell a wdi9091 in Scotland so i have a chance of getting it lol.

Still though, each picture that crops up is of better quality than the last one!

Anyone interested in the machine? Its really quiet and has pretty high rinses!


Post# 246012 , Reply# 4   11/3/2007 at 10:11 (6,011 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Brown Zanussi WM!!!

Paul...my aunt has got a machine quite the same as the first one! It's still working since just the 1985!!!

Maybe hers has not got the temperature control but only a pushbutton to decrease it(90/60°C)...
AH! But here there are two knobs because this is a WDCombo...

Before he moved house it was completely built-in in the kitchen left sink cause to the right there was a REX (here is the brand which Zanussi-Electrolux sold with!) Techna DW...the first completely hidden DW sold here... it had the pushbuttons only controls on the edge of the lid...just like nowadays Euro built-in DW.

GREAT FOUND...BYE!
Diomede


Post# 246049 , Reply# 5   11/3/2007 at 13:48 (6,011 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I'd love to snap that zanussi up, Though i think it would be very similar to the one i already have!

Post# 246066 , Reply# 6   11/3/2007 at 15:45 (6,011 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

I think it's a different type of beast altogether Darren.

Post# 246075 , Reply# 7   11/3/2007 at 16:49 (6,011 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Its certainly a nice looking machine! Wonder if this one comes equipt with half way up the door rinses! Heres a pic of my zanussi mid rinse!

Darren


Post# 246092 , Reply# 8   11/3/2007 at 17:31 (6,011 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

it transpires that my neighbour had a WDI9091 style machine when i was a kid (cheers David for identifying it for me).

have to say that it did look really smart with the door on - and that is coming from someone who is a great believer in machines being on show in all their glory.

I really hope someone takes it on. Be great to see it reintegrated.

paul


Post# 246096 , Reply# 9   11/3/2007 at 17:42 (6,011 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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What strikes me about old integral machines is, they weren't as dumbed down as many intergral machines.

It seems today if you buy integral you get basic machines with basic capacity and slow spins.

oldschool integral machines still had thought put into them it seems to me!

My brother has a integral tecnik, owned by bosch i think. exceptionally basic, pretty nasty looking and it was pretty heafty priced!

Though bosch have tackled this with a much larger drum machine with their new drum technology!

Darren



Post# 246191 , Reply# 10   11/4/2007 at 04:05 (6,010 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        

Darren: Can't remember what the cotton rinses were like for water, but the delicate rinses were pretty high! I think they were halfway up the door. It had three rinses with static drains and an automatic rinse hold. You had to move it one click to "x" to get the short spin. The cottons had 4 rinses and the the last two had spins inbetween at 500rpm. When the machine ramped up to 1000 it sounded totally different. Oh the memories!

Paul: No probs! Thanks for the picture! Well, now i have three more pictures of it haha. It did look pretty smart, i miss it! Used to love the tumbling straight into spin. We had hoovers and hotpoints when i was younger and it facinated me! I'm not sure if it had an iduction motor or not but i remember hearing a sort of highish whine. only way i can describe it is the way the washing machines tumble in the launderette in Eastenders haha. When it spun you'd mostly hear water or if the load was un balanced the sound of the drum shaking. When it hit 1000 you wouldn't hear anything but the drum and air whoosing about.


Post# 246193 , Reply# 11   11/4/2007 at 04:46 (6,010 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Another classic set Paul, at least your virtual collection is building nicely...

The Philips dryers where of their best at this time, made in the Hipperhome factory nr Halifax, later Crossley...

You are right about the earlier integrated machines Darren, they where still solid reliable machines with TOL features no dumbing down..

Those earlier Zanussi machines where a lot sturdier than later models (like most manufacturers), those very big induction motors did indeed just purr along as David says.


Post# 247002 , Reply# 12   11/7/2007 at 16:00 (6,007 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
tonights trawl

i think this was hotpoint UK's second washer dryer - the 9901.

i owned one of these machines just after graduating from university.


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Post# 247003 , Reply# 13   11/7/2007 at 16:01 (6,007 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

yet another classic 60s hotpoint.

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Post# 247004 , Reply# 14   11/7/2007 at 16:04 (6,007 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the Electricity Board version of the classic Philips dryer...


the Electra AWF763


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Post# 247005 , Reply# 15   11/7/2007 at 16:06 (6,007 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and another Electricity Board machine - the Hotpoint Supermatic copy.....

Electra 1465 (apparrently?)

looks in really good nick!


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Post# 247148 , Reply# 16   11/8/2007 at 10:50 (6,006 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        
Washer Dryer!!!! (again)

We had a 9934, which seems like the same machine just with a couple of differences. It was an awful machine! It had a major design flaw which earnt it a place on the "Hotpoint washing line of shame" The machine would rip clothes unless the "gentle action" button was pressed. The umm hot air passage stuck out too much into the drum and it ripped clothes that caught onto it :-(

It destroyed my "teenage nija mutant ninja turtles" teeshirt i had.

The machine only lasted 4 years or so. It was fun to watch though, the spinning was interesting. It would do a distibue drain, get up to 500rpm or so then stop. The machine wouold pulse then tumble, then pulse them distribute then spin at 500rpm for a while. The main final spin was the same but then after the long 500rpm spin the machine would tumble like it was on anticrease. It would then get up to 500rpm then click up to 1000 a few mins later. The delicate spin just had the pulses but the spin was longer then the intermediates because the timer would move and you would hear the machines speed would dip just a fraction. Paul, was your machine the same?

I would love to see that spin again. Although i'm still bitter about the teeshirt!


Post# 247152 , Reply# 17   11/8/2007 at 12:06 (6,006 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        
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Ommmmmmmg! OLDSCHOOL:D SUM1 GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darren


Post# 247162 , Reply# 18   11/8/2007 at 12:27 (6,006 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

how do David.

i do indeed have memories of the various pulse spins my machine did, but for all the wrong reasons!

basically it was useless, in fact no, totally incapable of balancing its loads - with quite spectacular and frigtening results.

there was obviously something seriously wrong with it, but i never found time to do anything about it. the only time i took the back off it was to replace the belt.

washing - no problem.

it seemed to me that the pulse spins were just too sharp for the machine to cope with. from a stand it would suddenly swing all of a sudden into a pulse rinse/spin, giving no time for distribution, with the result being that all the clothes would fasten themselves to one side of the drum.
the number of times that i stopped the machine and maually rearranged the clothes, hoping to help it, were quickly lost count of and i just left it to its own devices.

the result was a cocophony of severe, hellishly unbalanced bangings during rinse cycles and the most distressing and frigtening leaps into the kitchen when the spin was reached.

i am not exaggerating the experience -it could be quite terrifying, not knowing whether it was going to severely damage itself or its surroundings.

the machine used to live behing the backdoor, but down its left handside had no unit and only about a third of its depth of wall, before the door frame started, so it had got a place to leap into. had it been tied in by kitchen units probably, over time, it would have pulled the units away from the wall.

as mentioned before, i never investigated why its spins were so alarming and i have cursed pulse spin ever since.

it was bought second hand - whether it had a totally shot suspension or indeed, going from tim hunkins the secret life of programme, whether it even had a concrete block (or whether it was detached), i will never know.

come to think of it, the only reason it didn't continue to walk across the kitchen was because it would always leap to the left and wedge itself between unit and the bit of door frame/wall that there was.

good machine - but fatally flawed (mine was at least!).

paul


Post# 247177 , Reply# 19   11/8/2007 at 13:55 (6,006 days old) by washboy2005 (UK)        

Sounds like you had a frightening experience with your Hotpoint Paul, its good to hear about what tehy used to be like though!

OMG DARREN! That machine is A-MAZING!!

ill post it as a proper link!


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Post# 247182 , Reply# 20   11/8/2007 at 15:03 (6,006 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Lol sorry dan i posted the link in mega excitment! lol!!!!

Ahh yes. The hotpoint jumping out of its surroundings, my childhood machine was a 9534, it too would do those violent spins which when your small sat infront of your machine, is pretty terrifying!!! You know the signs, the towels clinging to one side of the drum on distribution,uh oh!!!RUN!!!! lol!! Out lept the machine!

It was more terrifying as we had the dryer on top for a number of years with the proper hotpoint stacking kit, so it would jump as one whole unit! imagine a fridge freezer leaping out at you lol.

Heres a pic i found of ebay of the same model, which one of our own lucky members has!

Darren


Post# 247192 , Reply# 21   11/8/2007 at 15:36 (6,006 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

OMG Darren & Daniel.

I had the same reaction when clicking on the link - how the hell did i miss that one.

totally fantastic machine - what with all the clasic philips talk recently it would be fantastic to see this one saved.

PLEASE SOMEONE SAVE THIS MACHINE - pllleeaaassseeeeeeeee! (I would if i could, but i can't).

it looks in fantastic nick and there is the matching dryer available too (scroll up a bit).

paul


Post# 247195 , Reply# 22   11/8/2007 at 15:44 (6,006 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Indeed, my 9534 can be just as violent and it's a miracle that it hasn't shaken itself to pieces! The suspension is very stiff on mine so the whole machine tends to jump off the floor briefly when it's unbalanced. On one occasion the jump actually detached the speed module from its bracket and came into contact with the timer, causing a short circuit and tripping the RCD. Thank goodness my house has an RCD otherwise I may have needed a new module/timer!

On the other hand it is the most fun machine to use with all those characteristic motor noises, the buzz from the timer during drain and the hum during the static heat. It doesn't mess about balancing before spin and comes across as a no nonsense, easy to use workhorse.

I am currently using my Zanussi Z9191T as my daily machine but the Hotpoint will be in use again soon!


Post# 247197 , Reply# 23   11/8/2007 at 15:56 (6,006 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

i have always felt sorry for those dryers which found themselves bolted to the top of and shaken by the washing machine. i can well understand how a fixture the size of a fridge freezer all of a sudden marching towards you can be a tad alarming.

the 9901 and the classica i owned a couple of years before were my first encounters with severely unbalanced machines.

my parents 95452 was a picture of absolute composure pretty much all of the time. this made my experience with the 9901 and classica a real eye opener for me.

tom - you mention the buzz from the timer when rinsing! my mums 95452 used to do this too - the timer used to buzz something chronic. as you say, old hotpoints certainly had charecter.

how is your Z9191T doing - nice and quiet with the induction motor?

be great to hear how its going.
paul


Post# 247204 , Reply# 24   11/8/2007 at 16:15 (6,006 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Paul, I'm very pleased with my Z9191T. It is extremely quiet and very solidly built, complete with steel outer tub and that very nice old style Zanussi drum - no plastic drum lifters here! The cycles run similarly to the FL1012 my aunt used to own, however that had a brush motor and distributed before the spins. Mine goes straight into spin from tumble speed once all the water has gone and is rarely out of balance.

The step cool down after the wash is a feature I remember well from older Zanussi's and I'm really pleased that mine has it too. The 4 rinses all use plenty of water so performance is pretty good.

All I've had to do to the machine since I got it was change the door seal which had a few rust marks on it! This wasn't as hard to change as I thought it might be (there being no detatchable front panel). The mains neon has burnt out so I am in the process of ordering one from Electrolux. Still, it runs as well as it probably did 23 years ago!

If there's anything I've missed and anyone wants to know about please feel free to ask!

Tom.


Post# 247277 , Reply# 25   11/9/2007 at 05:02 (6,005 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        

Paul, our machine was actually pretty stable. My mum always always washed clothes, towels and sheets seperatly and for some reason we haven't had any problem with the machine jumping about. Then again, i'm sure the 9934 is a newer model so they could have messed about with the suspenion. I remember the drum had no movement though and the WDI9091 had a fair bit of back and forth play.

I had a classica washer dryer in a flat and it never seemed to balance properly. I thought it just wasn't leveled properly. you wouldn't hear it until the final spin then it would come out to meet you when it reached 1100rpm lol.

The electra machine looks like the electra machine we had in home economics. The door was plastic and the handle was a wee semi circle. It also had a temperature knob. You know, it was a philips machine becasue of the progtam chart. I always wondered that. Until i came here i always thought electra was just another brand like creda that just done hotpoint machines. The electra hotpoints always looked smart to me though. Although they were probably creda machines with hotpoint motors haha. Oh electras are so confusing!


Post# 247340 , Reply# 26   11/9/2007 at 13:08 (6,005 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Tom,
Do you have a picture of your zanussi? My zanussi does a very very brief distribution before the spin, all of about 3 turns and then whoosh's up for the first burst! it also does 4 rinses, 3 high, one medium, after the 2nd rinse spin it does the medium water level rinse and doesnt spin after the rinse, i dont know if that has anything to do with the joint half/load-auto dry button.

Does your wool programme have the ridiculously high water level?

I had a classica 1000, a rather entertaining but potentionally dangerous fault occurred when the pump failed and it began to do full spin!!!! A full load of rinse water and the machine began to spin at 800! I turned it off as soon as i realised what had happened! lol!

My classica and my first newwave were terrible for balancing, the levelling of the feet is crucial with those, as with my new wave i have now, once it is stable in its surroundings it doesnt give any bother.

Ahh old electra hotpoints! There was a washerdryer in that funky grey they did in the 90s, in a house we were going to rent, the house wasnt anything special but i really began to push for it once i knew that was included lol!!! Heres a pic attached. alas we never moved into that place:p

Darren



Post# 247688 , Reply# 27   11/11/2007 at 06:58 (6,003 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        
Cool!

My auntie had a tumble dryer that color. I always thought it was creda because it had that filter thing on the door so you couldn't see in. My best mate replaced his hoover washer dryer with a white electra washing macine. I remember the rinses were different than your normal hotpoint. Can't remember what it done but it was different anyway!

Post# 247693 , Reply# 28   11/11/2007 at 08:04 (6,003 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

couple more bits n bobs.

a Hotpoint New Generation - anyone an inkling of the model number?



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Post# 247694 , Reply# 29   11/11/2007 at 08:04 (6,003 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and another AEG Lavalux!

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Post# 247880 , Reply# 30   11/12/2007 at 07:53 (6,002 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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OMG! STOP THE PRESS! ANOTHER PHILIPS! AHHH! I WANT IT:D

Darren


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Post# 247955 , Reply# 31   11/12/2007 at 14:44 (6,002 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        
Wow

What a handsome washing machine.

Post# 248189 , Reply# 32   11/13/2007 at 15:55 (6,001 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

a spinarinse - not de luxe, hence the drain at the front.

anyone any idea of model number?



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Post# 248646 , Reply# 33   11/16/2007 at 17:31 (5,998 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
a couple more

firstly a Creda Compact 3S (S for stainless steel drum):

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Post# 248647 , Reply# 34   11/16/2007 at 17:32 (5,998 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

a Hotpoint Empress:

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Post# 248648 , Reply# 35   11/16/2007 at 17:37 (5,998 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Bit of a Mystery to me

what on earth is this Servis dryer all about. have never seen one like this before - anyone care to spill the beans on the machines vintage, name and Mk number? be very interested to hear.

might not even be that old, but the brown facia and typeface of the name 'SERVIS' would seemingly date it to the early to mid 1980s.

I am intrigued!


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Post# 249465 , Reply# 36   11/21/2007 at 11:24 (5,993 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Latest one

Electra D6E16 the matching dryer to the A3E12 washing machine, which was based upon the Hoover A3110 Electronic 1100.

This dryer was based upon the D6074 dryer de luxe


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Post# 249622 , Reply# 37   11/22/2007 at 09:41 (5,992 days old) by irishmark (Ireland)        
servis dryer

hey paul,we had them dryers over here they were the same as zerowatt,they were out around the mid 80s say 1985/86 my brothers friendsmother had one they had reverse tumble and its act still goin,they were made in spain/italy zanussi,and bendix and novum had the washing machines in the 80s also the the washer i think was a fl800 anyway hope it helps,

mark


Post# 249644 , Reply# 38   11/22/2007 at 14:58 (5,992 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

cheers for the info.

it was a real shock when i saw the machine on sale - 'what the hell is that' i thought.

is a compltely new style of servis that i never knew existed.
am intrigued by the period you mention - mid 80's.

could this have been an intermediate series of machine, introduced between the end of the slimlines and the introduction of the full front door series.

any more info on this series of machines, very gratefully received (especially a model number for the dryer above!).

once again, many thanks Mark for the info.
regards
Paul


Post# 250176 , Reply# 39   11/25/2007 at 14:31 (5,989 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Philips D163

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Post# 250188 , Reply# 40   11/25/2007 at 15:04 (5,989 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Oh my god Paul,

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My Paternal Nanas dryer, (Nana Shandy LOL!) discussed in other threads, why are these turning up in truck loads of late? R

Post# 250220 , Reply# 41   11/25/2007 at 18:12 (5,989 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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yep thats the dryer my grandma has too, apparently still going strong. Ur nana and my grandma are smart women to buy one of those rob :)

Post# 250602 , Reply# 42   11/27/2007 at 10:52 (5,987 days old) by irishmark (Ireland)        

just found on ebay a cross between a Z918 and a FL810!


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Post# 250603 , Reply# 43   11/27/2007 at 10:52 (5,987 days old) by irishmark (Ireland)        

just found on ebay a cross between a Z918 and a FL810!


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Post# 250887 , Reply# 44   11/28/2007 at 15:43 (5,986 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

no quite the right era for this forum but hey!

a very nice looking Hoover Logic 1300 E (from the electricity board shop).

now i think this machine is model A3764 - anyone able to confirm?


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Post# 250889 , Reply# 45   11/28/2007 at 15:45 (5,986 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
last of te run?

is this a T5090 last of the line?

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Post# 250890 , Reply# 46   11/28/2007 at 15:51 (5,986 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hoober Electron Dryer de luxe with Autosense, reversing and creaseguard.

i think this is a D6182 and if so would be the top of the range dryer from the very first series of Electron dryer.

the dryers sold alongside the early electron washers were updated dryers from the A3110 series of machines.

if so this in my book is a real classic!


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Post# 250892 , Reply# 47   11/28/2007 at 15:53 (5,986 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

these early 80s compacts from hotpoint really seem to have stood the test of time. battered and bruised, but stil here.

model 17230 super dryer


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Post# 250893 , Reply# 48   11/28/2007 at 15:56 (5,986 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

another very tidy Hotpoint 9901 (I think). only hotpoints second ever washer dryer.

if its a 9900 then the first.


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Post# 250895 , Reply# 49   11/28/2007 at 16:00 (5,986 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Model Number..

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Hey Paul

The A3764 is indeed an Electricity board model according to my service manual.Its also listed as being white/CH/Beige(Champange?).

So im guessing you are spot on :)

Seamus


Post# 250896 , Reply# 50   11/28/2007 at 16:03 (5,986 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
And

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Yup

Thats the T5090- last model of the Hoovermatic!


Post# 250898 , Reply# 51   11/28/2007 at 16:33 (5,986 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

hi Seamus.

cheers for clearing up the uncertainties i had - particularly with the logic.

i was about 85% sure, but now boosted to 99.9% sure, without seeing the information plate on the back.

image on my computer suitably corrected to read A3764 and filed away in the 'HOOVER' folder.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 705080 , Reply# 52   9/24/2013 at 08:17 (3,859 days old) by w5872 ()        
The SERVIS dryer.

The mid 80's SERVIS dryer pictured above. My aunt has one. Since the mid 80's still going.


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