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Post# 247723   11/11/2007 at 11:11 (6,003 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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I've been cleaning up my pretty in pink Maytag A700 and I'm noticing that when the wash cycle starts, the machine needs about 10 minutes for the agitation OPMs to get up to full speed on the NORMAl setting (about 5 minutes on GENTLE speed). Is this likely a transmission problem or could it be a belt problem? If it's a belt problem, how to I proceed?
Also, can you folks remind me the best way to replace the washer lid with the polypropylene balls? I know it's been discussed before, but long ago.





Post# 247727 , Reply# 1   11/11/2007 at 11:22 (6,003 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Maytags use very thick tranny oil. It starts to break down and coats the gears with a varnish like film. The permanent solution is to break down the tranny, clean all gears and inside of the tranny case with a solvent to dissolve that film, then reassemble with new power unit grease/oil.

Post# 247741 , Reply# 2   11/11/2007 at 12:53 (6,003 days old) by drmitch ()        

Also check the belt tension and the slide carriage and springs on the motor.

Post# 247771 , Reply# 3   11/11/2007 at 15:38 (6,003 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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For the lid balls, my dad always put them in water, and then microwaved them, to soften them up. I've never had a problem on installation, to set one side in place, angle the lid towards you, and place the other ball in place on the top, and then using the palm of your hand, drive the lid in place.

kennyGF


Post# 247791 , Reply# 4   11/11/2007 at 17:24 (6,003 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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bajaespuma-

My tag was had the same symptoms as your, long story short- the problem ended up just being the rollers needed replaced and lubed for the slide plate motor mounting.


Post# 247817 , Reply# 5   11/11/2007 at 20:32 (6,002 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
OK, pretend I'm blond

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What rollers? What side plate? What mounting? And how to you check the belt for wear?

Post# 247824 , Reply# 6   11/11/2007 at 20:41 (6,002 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Hey Ken ~

Here is a shot of the motor on the motor mount. The mount is made of two halves. 1 of the halves have pegs for 'rollers' (in the photo, the half the motor is bolted to) and the other half has a track for the rollers (bottom). This is an easy maintenance job to replace the rollers. Just stop by your local friendly Maytag store or appliance parts store and ask for Motor Mount Roller/Spring kit. Shouldn't cost more than say 15 bucks. You'll need an Allen Key set to remove the pulley, some nut drivers, and about an hour or so.

If you see glazing on the V sides of the belt, it would be time to replace as well. Heck, if you are picking up the Roller kit, you may as well get new belts too.

Ben


Post# 247834 , Reply# 7   11/11/2007 at 21:17 (6,002 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Lawd Ben, did you pull that thing up out of a lake?! (Looks like one I got out of south Georgia!)
I remember replacing the rollers/springs on one of my 'Tags and it did make a difference.


Post# 247852 , Reply# 8   11/12/2007 at 00:14 (6,002 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York)        

Maytags are great,but when the belts go, the fecking things just work terrible. Fortunately, the belts and the motor on springs are the clutch on the thing. Replace both the main and pump belt at the same time(With only genuine Maytag belts) and examine if the sled and springs to the motor slide with some force front to back. There should be some resitance to push the motor forward, and it should return back.

I think Maytags were made for "Blondes"


Post# 247945 , Reply# 9   11/12/2007 at 13:52 (6,002 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Baja,
Coldspot is probably on the money. The age of the washer and it's symptoms are saying thick tranny oil. Check the motor carriage slide, the belts, and also replace the motor carriage springs, but I bet on thick tranny oil.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 248042 , Reply# 10   11/12/2007 at 20:27 (6,001 days old) by machinehead ()        
What kind of Tranny "erl" do you use?

OK 'Tag Guru's: what kinda oil do you replace the original tranny oil with? ATF? Gear lube? Gorilla snot? (i also have a 142S that needs work, hence my interest) And the other question is, was there a gasket on the trans case seams or do you use something like RTV during reassembly?

Post# 248077 , Reply# 11   11/12/2007 at 22:38 (6,001 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Gorilla snot?

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Is this really a pet term for a well-known produt?

(Today's I'm blond. Next week I dye the carpet too.)


Post# 248078 , Reply# 12   11/12/2007 at 22:39 (6,001 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
We may be on to domething here......

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TAG HAG?

LOL ROFL LMAO

I took that at a fast glance as a person who does tag sales/garage sales/ yard sales/ estate sales.


Post# 248222 , Reply# 13   11/13/2007 at 20:13 (6,000 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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Steve, I resemble that remark!!!

Post# 248229 , Reply# 14   11/13/2007 at 20:49 (6,000 days old) by may63 (St. Paul MN)        

Hmmm...Tag Hag...nice.

What other names could there be?

A Kenmo' Ho? Or just a Ken Ho?

Speed Queen...well that just speaks for itself.

Can't think of any others at the moment...










Post# 248248 , Reply# 15   11/13/2007 at 22:54 (6,000 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Frigidame?


Post# 248261 , Reply# 16   11/14/2007 at 02:07 (6,000 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        
Don't get me started...

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Miele you long time

Franklin my dear, I don't give a damn

HO-Bart

I'm Easy

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Electrolush

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Post# 248358 , Reply# 17   11/14/2007 at 18:32 (5,999 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        
Lordy, Lordy!

Look what you started, Machinehead. I'll try to bring some sanity back to this thread. Use genuine Maytag transmission oil. Fill the lower half of the tranny to the top, a little less that the whole bottle. The gaskets for the 142's have been discontinued for several years now, but maybe someone in the club has a spare. It is difficult to separate the tranny halves without destroying the cork gasket. Maybe the more knowledgeable Tag hags could offer some advice for a new gasket.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 248362 , Reply# 18   11/14/2007 at 20:12 (5,999 days old) by machinehead ()        
Sanity is relative

Yikes! My my what a little diversion can do! thanks all for the lovely slang (i'm adding that to my already altered vocabulary) and special thanks to Bobby in Boston for answers (and perhaps a little sanity!) Next question is, whats an "easy" way to remove an old bakelite ag of that previously mentioned 142 'Tag? Any ideas?

Post# 248363 , Reply# 19   11/14/2007 at 20:24 (5,999 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

I have a few gaskets for the crank and sector gear tranny. I think they are a cardboard-like material.

Post# 248368 , Reply# 20   11/14/2007 at 21:33 (5,999 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Some auto supply stores sell sheets of various types of gasket material. If a gasket isn't too intricate, one can cut a new gasket to replace an old one. Having a set of hole punches for the bolt holes helps a lot. Those skilled with an Exacto knife (or scalpel) will find it relatively easy.


Post# 248797 , Reply# 21   11/17/2007 at 23:36 (5,996 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York)        

Y'all forgot the obvious. I'm EASY

Post# 248799 , Reply# 22   11/18/2007 at 00:00 (5,996 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York)        

Oh, you did get the Easy One one,sorry.
My Ho secretary missed it. He is, of course, fired.



Post# 249030 , Reply# 23   11/19/2007 at 07:11 (5,995 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Machinehead,
Sadly, the old bakelite agitators tend to crack when you use force to pull them up. Unless the washer gods are smiling on you, you will probably have to destroy the agitator to get it out. My 142 has a newer black poly power-fin because of this same situation.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 249080 , Reply# 24   11/19/2007 at 10:59 (5,995 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Removing a stuck agitator

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What I did with one of my Tags(not this one, fortunately it was kept in a dry basement and the agitator slipped off like a glove)was to surround the base of the agitator with towels and stuff the bottom of the interior of the post with small towels and doused everything with pots of boiling water for about 1/2 an hour. It was enough to loosen everything enough to pry the bugger off without breaking it. I imagine it also softened the plastic enough to prevent breakage.

Post# 249082 , Reply# 25   11/19/2007 at 11:01 (5,995 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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That is a great towel trick Ken - thanks for sharing. I'll have to give it a try on the AMP. Keep us posted if you decide to do a transmission rebuild.

Ben



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