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Thread Number: 14624
Ariston/Hotpoint Aqualtis Wool Platinum Care Wash.. Very interesting! |
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| Post# 248697 , Reply# 2 11/17/2007 at 04:48 (5,996 days old) by hoovermatic (UK) | ||
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What a contrast to the wool cycle on my Hotpoint h-axis TL. Wash performance poor, rinse performance poor. The more I hear about the Aqualtis, the more I want one! | ||
| Post# 248698 , Reply# 3 11/17/2007 at 04:49 (5,996 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
I have to agree the platinum wool cycle is the best wool programme i've ever used! I'm really pleased with my hotpoint so far! I have to agree david, the torque on these inverter motors is phenominal! it reminds me of my servis quartz, how it can throw everything into distribution on the first tumble! Outstanding! Darren | ||
| Post# 248700 , Reply# 4 11/17/2007 at 05:06 (5,996 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
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Post# 248701 , Reply# 5 11/17/2007 at 05:08 (5,996 days old) by foraloysius  (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 248705 , Reply# 7 11/17/2007 at 06:06 (5,996 days old) by funguy10 () | ||
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Does anybody know if American Front-Loaders like the Whirlpool Duet operate thier Wool cycles the same way? | ||
| Post# 248721 , Reply# 10 11/17/2007 at 09:14 (5,996 days old) by funguy10 () | ||
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U.S.A. Front-Loaders do that on 120 volts though. Most of them have a "Sanitary" cycle that fills up with hot water and then heats it to being extra-hot. | ||
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Post# 248726 , Reply# 11 11/17/2007 at 10:56 (5,996 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Not the same thing really. Profile washing involves taking cold, lukewarm or warm water and gradually heating it to hot or boiling. Purpose is to prevent setting stains by starting with too hot water, and give the enzymes time to work before they are killed off by wash temperatures above 140F or 120F. Profile washing also eliminates for the most part the need for pre-washing in cool or cold water, thus saving time, energy and water. The above not withstanding, with the advent of newer enzymes and activated oxygen bleaching agents, or using sodium percarbonate instead of sodium perborate bleaching, means profile washing can be less important. With bleaching taking place at 100F or even 80F, and enzymes working at 100F to 140F (sweet spot is around 100F to 120F), unless one is doing a boil wash for other reasons, no one really uses high temperatures that much anymore. Have left grossly soiled table linens soaking in cool water and a TOL detergent with bleach and enzymes such as Wisk tablets, Persil or Tide, and several hours later most if not all soils and stains were gone. Indeed wash all my fine table linens at 100F (saves wear) and they are quite clean. L. | ||
| Post# 248811 , Reply# 16 11/18/2007 at 04:06 (5,995 days old) by rudin1969 (Italy) | ||
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First message here - I hail from Italy.. why do you think Which? (one of the most reliable consumer magazines) included the Aqualtis in its recent list of 'DON'T BUYs' (the other washer in the list was an Indesit)? Andrea | ||
| Post# 248816 , Reply# 17 11/18/2007 at 06:47 (5,995 days old) by mrx () | ||
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I don't know, but I do know that I have used Which in recent months and found the advice very poor. We'll see how this machine works anyway. It has an extended full 3 year warranty and a 5 year parts warranty so, fingers crossed it works out ok! | ||
| Post# 248817 , Reply# 18 11/18/2007 at 07:27 (5,995 days old) by hotpointwf220 () | ||
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1000RPM final spin on Plantinum Wools that's fantastic. I just realised my platinum care wools wash distributes during washing and rinsing but on final spin it now DOES 1000 rpm when i press wash enhance and press the spin button again through the wash or before. | ||
| Post# 248818 , Reply# 19 11/18/2007 at 07:28 (5,995 days old) by hotpointwf220 () | ||
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and don't forget you get this from the Ultima WT960/5 only as far as i know | ||
| Post# 248825 , Reply# 20 11/18/2007 at 08:36 (5,995 days old) by chrisbsuk (Bristol, uk) | ||
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| Post# 248826 , Reply# 21 11/18/2007 at 08:48 (5,995 days old) by northernmary (Huddersfield - West Yorkshire) | ||
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Post# 248852 , Reply# 23 11/18/2007 at 13:29 (5,995 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Over on WashertalkUK site they speak of the exact same thing! Apparently while a great machine from a cycle point of view, these washers have a sealed tub which means once anything major like the bearings go, that is the end of that. However in Hotpoint's defence the machine does have a five year warranty. Lots of people over on WashertalkUK, who happen to be repair persons/appliance hobbists like ourselves say the same thing. With all the noise about being "green" and protecting the planet and it's resources, what is the good of building appliances that will break down in about five or six years and require chucking out and replacement. To be fair, many UK and European countries now require appliances to be recycled, and even if not mandatory, many are; still. | ||
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Post# 248853 , Reply# 24 11/18/2007 at 13:31 (5,995 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Sorry | ||
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Post# 248883 , Reply# 26 11/18/2007 at 16:18 (5,995 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Just to be fair, it has been disucssed over on Washerhelp as here; laundry appliance makers are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they build them "like they used to", consumers balk at the costs, and look to lower priced machines. If they try to give away the store, their stock price gets hammered and heads roll. Either way not a pretty picture. As I've often said, many of the appliance greats saw the writing on the wall from the late 1960's or so: major appliances were moving towards, and indeed probably have reached a mature stage in the market cycle. No longer are washing machines, dishwashers, dryers, etc a luxury; but a comfort that everyone can afford (thanks to easy credit). There simply isn't a point from many appliance maker's point of view to knock themselves out on quality when regardless of how the thing is built, it will probably be chucked out or otherwise disposed of within 10 years as people want something "new" or move. Commercial laundry appliances, for the most part have held standards, but then again they have to, don't they? No laundry owner is going to plunk down several thousands for a machine that will constantly break down and or end up as rubbish within five years. L. | ||
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Post# 249243 , Reply# 31 11/20/2007 at 11:18 (5,993 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Turbidity sensor vs. suds sensor | ||
| Post# 249264 , Reply# 33 11/20/2007 at 12:43 (5,993 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
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My hotpoint WT960 performs great with 2 rinses, The 1200rpm spin between the rinses really shifts the residue! The good thing is you can select an extra rinse while its performing the first rinse, so if things are getting abit hectic in the suds department you can add the extra rinse! I always do extra rinse for bulky loads like towels! Darren | ||
| Post# 249821 , Reply# 36 11/23/2007 at 20:02 (5,990 days old) by mrx () | ||
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Unilever Persil Powder (or Omo in other markets in Europe) meets that criteria | ||
| Post# 250031 , Reply# 39 11/24/2007 at 17:58 (5,989 days old) by rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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mrx I agree about the Ariel powder acting as a room 'freshener', and so do my parents. They couldn't stand the smell when it was changed a couple of years ago. The stench was quite overpowering. | ||
| Post# 250210 , Reply# 41 11/25/2007 at 16:37 (5,988 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK) | ||
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I guess it depends on your water, but I've been using Ariel tablets for the past few months now and haven't had any sudsing issues like I used to with them... perform as well as Persil too, if not slightly better! Jon | ||
| Post# 250309 , Reply# 44 11/26/2007 at 02:31 (5,987 days old) by mrx () | ||
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If they're REALLY delicate, wash by hand with good quality shampoo ! | ||
| Post# 250322 , Reply# 46 11/26/2007 at 05:35 (5,987 days old) by mielabor () | ||
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Shampoo? Why not, wool is hair after all. | ||
| Post# 250469 , Reply# 48 11/26/2007 at 18:33 (5,987 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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Ok, you bought me... I'm going to wash one of my pullovers with Nivea straight silk shampo and conditioner... let's see what happens! | ||
| Post# 251345 , Reply# 49 11/30/2007 at 19:22 (5,983 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK) | ||
Ariel powder
I agree, the ariel scent is absolutely vile, it smells like cheap pine disinfectant mixed with curry powder, did you know that ariel colour smells exactly the same as ariel biological did before they changed it, when i am doing laundry at uni, if i get a wiff of ariel biological i cough and sneeze. Persil is exceptional, i like the powder and the gel tablets, though i can't use the gel tablets here as they don't dissolve in the speed queen FLs in the launderette. I really like the scent of asdas powder and tablet detergents, their bio powder reminds me of persil automatic in the early 90's. regarding scents, i agree that P&G should be focusing on actual cleansing of garments and stain removal rather than strong fragrances. I'm currently using Daz liquid, very vintage subtle scent yet very good cleaning. i still prefer pouring liquid on the stain and rubbing it in before i put the ball into the heart of the wash. it works best for me in the uni washers because of the very quick cycles and there is no prewash. | ||
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Post# 251478 , Reply# 50 12/1/2007 at 11:27 (5,982 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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No prewash?
So do you have the Speed Queens with only four cycles? Ours have five cycles + prewash (SWFX74 series). Regarding scent and Ariel: I'm using Ariel liquitabs for the prewash, Ariel powder in the main wash and both about three caps of Lenor concentrate and still - once the clothes are finished drying there's hardly any smell left! I don't get it. | ||
| Post# 251511 , Reply# 51 12/1/2007 at 15:52 (5,982 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK) | ||
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yeah | ||
| Post# 251645 , Reply# 52 12/2/2007 at 13:11 (5,981 days old) by mrx () | ||
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Perhaps German P&G Ariel is a totally different scent formula then? The UK/Ireland version is very heavily scented indeed :) | ||
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Post# 251656 , Reply# 53 12/2/2007 at 14:14 (5,981 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Perhaps German P&G Ariel is a totally different scent formul
Don't quite know. I've never (or rarely) had any detergent smell left on my clothes when doing laundry back home using Ariel powder or liquid. However, I've found Persil Gel for Colors' scent (by Henkel) to be very strong. Here in the UK it doesn't really matter what I use: those Speed Queen dryers are excellent at removing any type of scent. :( Must have used about a 100 ml of Comfort Sweet Almond Conditioning Crème for the last load and still... nada. Well, at least the steam venting from the dryer made the accommodation's parking-lot smell great :-/ | ||
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