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Thread Number: 14800
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| Post# 251051 , Reply# 2 11/29/2007 at 13:02 (5,990 days old) by timborow (Georgia) | ||
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Thanks. I'll keep trying. | ||
Post# 251095 , Reply# 4 11/29/2007 at 16:05 (5,990 days old) by toggleswitch  (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 251096 , Reply# 5 11/29/2007 at 16:11 (5,990 days old) by timborow (Georgia) | ||
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I'll try that Toggle. It uses very little water. I think it'd work better using a little more, but I'll have to deal with that I guess. Maybe that's why it goes off balance. Yes, I think all of the shipping straps were removed. The store installed it. How could I tell if they weren't? Tim | ||
| Post# 251107 , Reply# 6 11/29/2007 at 16:52 (5,990 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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You can check if the shipping bolts/straps were removed looking at the back of the machine and comparing with the pictures in the instruction book, with those is fairly easy to check. Hope this helps! | ||
| Post# 251109 , Reply# 7 11/29/2007 at 17:03 (5,990 days old) by mrx () | ||
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It's quite simple. If your machine goes drastically out of balance you need a new one! To load : stuff machine full of laundry and close door. | ||
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Post# 251116 , Reply# 8 11/29/2007 at 18:37 (5,990 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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~How could I tell if they weren't? My FridGeMore had long bolts that penetrate the back and go through the machine. The front panel (bottom) comes off and a piece of styrofoam comes out; it holds the bottom of the drum in place. All needed to be removed before use. Perhaps someone can tell us exactly what packing/shippng provisons apply to your particular machine. | ||
| Post# 251137 , Reply# 10 11/29/2007 at 20:16 (5,990 days old) by timborow (Georgia) | ||
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I do like my FL. However, the cycles are way too long,and as I said it doesn't use enough water. Can valves be adjusted on GEs to make it use more water, or would that void a warranty? Tim | ||
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Post# 251221 , Reply# 14 11/30/2007 at 06:55 (5,989 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Ma che cosa? | ||
| Post# 251226 , Reply# 15 11/30/2007 at 07:28 (5,989 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
Faggoto - Faggot (UK) - Meatball (English American) Faggots are what us brits call meatballs made of various offal, hearts liver kidney minced up with herbs spices etc. To add more confusion I am near Stoke on Trent (home of various pottery makers such as Churchill, Etc) where Faggots are also known as Savoury Ducks pronounced Savry Ducks. Despite sounding awful they do taste very nice! But then im very fond of Liver and Kidney anyway in most ways.
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| Post# 251235 , Reply# 17 11/30/2007 at 08:32 (5,989 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City) | ||
Wow! 
i am with MRX, if the machine is off balence, you need a new one. GE makes lemons as well as washers sometimes, not on purpose. That was the case with my old Neptune, it was always dancing into the wall, my poor house! It finally went the way of bye bye, and i bought a new washer and dryer that I do not have to be particuar about loading, just not to use too much soap. I have briliant results. The only place that I do not miss water is on my bill.I always recamend a little oxyclean with a load if your soap does not already have that in it. i just get the big one from Costco. As far as the long wash times, it is not a big deal, i always tell myself that perfection takes time, plus the three rinses maker sure that all of the soap is out.
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Post# 251279 , Reply# 20 11/30/2007 at 13:01 (5,989 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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It might help to load the machine fully. The manual of some older AEG frontloaders instructed to not let the machine perform a spin cycle when it was loaded only partly. At that time they didn't have a off balance sensor and went straight into spin. If they were only partly loaded they would go off balance very easily. These machines are designed to use low water levels. Multiple rinsing should rinse out the detergent effectively. It's important not to use a low sudsing detergent (HE or not) and not use too much of it. Some detergents rinse out better than others. | ||
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Post# 251298 , Reply# 22 11/30/2007 at 14:20 (5,989 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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A useful way of determining correct drum load is to look at how many baffles/sections the drum has , most are divided by three, some have four, you can tell me how many the Staber has?? So for a three sectioned drum,determine the load by how it would best spin, 3 large bath towels suplimented with smaller item will probably ensure even distribution around the drum when spinning.... As a simple example, One large towel/bath robe and a load of underwear will struggle to balance... 2 large towels/bathrobes should be fine unless its a large duet then 3 would be better or one large bathrobe and a matching number / weight of towels/smaller items... Its mainly cotton loads which would cause more OOB, in which case its why a similar load of equal weighted fabrics is best suited..... Most machines go OOB when only one or two sections of drum are evenly loaded whilst spinning..gravitational pull determines the rest...of course it does help to have good suspension legs and a non oversensitive OOB sensor!!! When you think of it imagine what a 9kg load of wet towels weighs???now imagine how much torque your machine/motor/suspension has to deal with NOT to go OOB.... | ||
| Post# 253243 , Reply# 24 12/10/2007 at 11:15 (5,979 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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Nope, it never happened to me, maybe because I only run the machine when is filled to capacity. Actually I can get my bedding put of the machine without taking other stuff out, not even socks ever get tangeled together with bigger stuff. | ||
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Post# 253247 , Reply# 25 12/10/2007 at 11:26 (5,979 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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My Duet HT can also tangle things but I haven't yet figured out what combo of laundry items causes this to occur. If I'm washing king sized sheets and pillow cases, they almost always come out with some twists and tangles but it wasn't a whole lot better with my old '97 Amana shred-o-matic. I still can't figure out the self re-balancing thing the machine does. I can be there watching and the drum is turning at a good clip before spin, it's hardly wobbling, the machine increases speed, everything is smooth as silk, and yet it ends up slowing down and going into re-balancing. It really frustrates me that the machine can't seem to tell a balanced load from an unbalanced one and opts itself out of opportunities for a smooth high-speed spin. These machines were advertised as being able to wash 16 pairs of jeans in a single load. I'd like to know what size jeans they are talking about. I can't imagine even getting 16 pairs of my Levi's to fit in there. The literature that came with the machine says it will hold 23 bath towels. What size? Mine are fairly large and I feel I'm stressing the machine with only 10 of them in there. Can anyone elaborate on these claims Whirlpool is making regarding capacity of the full sized Duets? | ||
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Post# 253277 , Reply# 27 12/10/2007 at 13:23 (5,979 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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These modern FL's do take some getting used to. I didn't like the idea of placing detergent into a compartment in a drawer but now I don't give it a 2nd thought. FL's take longer to do a load but I just walk away and let it do its thing. If I'm in a hurry I can use the "Quick Wash" cycle. I also wipe the boot after each load and wipe off the inner glass, and I always give the tub a spin around to make sure there are no stray socks stuck to the side. And of course I leave the washer door open a bit when not in operation. These are refined machines and require a bit more in the way of routine maintenance or practices but I liken them to a nice car that you tend to baby. They are prima donnas for sure compared to your average TL, but IMHO they are worth the trouble. Our Duet removed stains on clothing that had been washed and dried in our Amana TL pair many times without success. That was all the results I needed to validate my switch from TL to FL. | ||
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Post# 253283 , Reply# 29 12/10/2007 at 14:59 (5,979 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I never thought about it
I've had a front loader (Bosch) for about five years. I use the Persil soaps and love them. The only time I've had foam is when the husband used a large scoop of soap instead of a small one but the washer seemed to take care of that for me. It added some or many rinses (I didn't pay that much attention I just remember seeing Added Extra Rinse - Foam in the display) until there was no more foam. I just stick stuff in there and never thought about alternating large and small items. I don't know exactly how it senses or not but at times I hear it start to rev up and then slow down. It seems to do this a few times but always seems to be able to balance the load and get to a full spin that sounds like a jet engine in the laundry room. I have never had a load that did not spin because it was off balance. I don't recall any terribly tangled messes either. Maybe the washer wants someone who really doesn't give a crap about how it gets loaded. It's getting back at me every load because of my indifference to its needs. LOL. Mine does have the smaller drum so based on some of these other posts that may be the reason why I haven't seen many of these problems. | ||
| Post# 253294 , Reply# 30 12/10/2007 at 16:12 (5,979 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
&Hello ralph & group members in working with products all day whirlpool duet, when it came out in 2000 i showed it at a home show in philly and made that clam of 16 pair of jeans, which in turn cause alot of problems with my customers.So whirlpool changed there statement they said your suppose to vary your jeans in sizes very small to large jeans i don't think that's good either my magic number is 4 pair 6 max for full size jeans a little more with short jeans they have more room to spread around. Duet does not have a high lift as say bosch,& L. G . washers have. So it tends to roll more and then tangling starts i wished they improve there baffles. There's a new wash rhythm i discovered it's called double cotton speed Miele rex electroluxe have that in europe those guys are so advance with there front loading washers over there well it tumbles about i guess 45rpm & then 60 rpm to spread the clothes out. The group well have a better say on it which is very cool wash action i love it. (It's also on U TUBE type it in). That said the duet does ramp up and stop about three times in intermitted spin so wrinkles want set in not a balance issue. So for my loads in a front loader are very european smaller washes and everything separated shirt with shirts towels with towels as long as it's not bigger then the others that causes unbalancing i try to keep the weight of the fabrics even and that could be with anything, reduces balance & twisting problems. It has seem to me when i do mega loads i get twisting and spin problems. Something the manufactures have to work on guys!! i don"t even no how the american people get through washing in the big front loaders today, (All brands) with there huge loads of laundry it's alot of stress on the machine they really cant handle it like true commercial front loaders do, you can here it, my brothers wife machine she has a duet and follow the big load law that they advertise, and her machine is 3'yrs old and is making a nasty ticking sound i think it;s in here left shock system and thats from loading large all the time. And then there the water issue sometimes not high enough in my book in some instances. So my dream machine would be... 1. A Lathe machine motor style hydraulics system like the one CMC machine, (if you go on U TUBE look at the lathe or drill tooling machines) because of the extreme high speed and control & precession of wash basket instant rev up to speed like hard mounts but much higher spin speeds like soft mounts can produce. 2. Beautiful halogen lighting for full view standerd. Or with temperature lighting if one wants it on, from a cool light blue color for cold and gradually turn to yellow for warm and a nice red color when hot. 3.Door drop down with a TWONG! type sound when u open it( somebody here post that a window that would not fog up good idea) maybe a little forward thinking how about a door that opens like an iris like double 0 seven . 4. Detergent dispensers that are rock solid!! no drawer, constant recycle cleaning. 5 Simple but very sophisticated washing, rinsing, spinning , programs all adjustable. 6. A great awesome showering waterworks system with with new double-cotton wash action and new rhythms ?? 7. A true Quick wash 10:00 min 5 min wash & two waterworks spin rinses & spin add two min for softner rinsing . 8. Very advanced wash basket? 9. Spin speeds 0 to 2500 realistically 2000 at this time.? 10. AUTOMATICWASHER ,ORG APPROVED FROM THE GROUP MEMBERS THE MANUFACTURES HAVE US VOTE ON THE FEATURES & MATERIALS WE WANT AND THE ONES THAT NOT ACCEPTABLE TO US. THAT WHOULD BE THE BEST MACHINE AROUND IN DECADES .. | ||
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