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Post# 253518   12/11/2007 at 20:30 (4,121 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I'm getting the matching dryer to my Miele W1215 washer sometime in January, and I want them stacked. How does this work? It appears it doesn't consist of simply putting the dryer on top of the washer but rather removing the washer's top and bolting the dryer to the top of the washer? How heavy is the dryer? Is this something that 4 ordinary people could easily lift or is it anywhere near as heavy as the washer? Do I dare trust the delivery poeple to install the dryer on top of the washer? Thanks!

Post# 253544 , Reply# 1   12/12/2007 at 02:10 (4,121 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

There is a kind of platform that you have to put between the washing machine and the dryer, contact your miele dealer for the appropriate model

Post# 253545 , Reply# 2   12/12/2007 at 02:51 (4,121 days old) by mielabor ()        

My Miele dryer is ca. 65 kg (145 lbs). Two men can lift that. I have disassembled the dryer several times so that I could do it alone, but that is probably not what you want to do with a new machine.

Yes, you need a special frame (Miele calls it a stacking kit) that replaces the top of the washer if you want to bolt washer and dryer together. I know of cases where people have simply placed the dryer on top of the washer without bolting them together and have no problems with it but I think that is only possible when your machine is standing on a stable (concrete) floor. It certainly wouldn't be possible on the wooden floors that I have in my apartment.


Post# 253627 , Reply# 3   12/12/2007 at 13:32 (4,121 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I'm not sure if the slide out shelf comes with the stacking kit or not, but it looks like it could be useful under the dryer door.

Post# 253629 , Reply# 4   12/12/2007 at 13:47 (4,120 days old) by mrx ()        

Don't stack them without the kit. The dryer can vibrate off the top if the washer goes unstable and you can end up wrecking your dryer, possibly damaging your kitchen/utility room etc.

It's also lethal if a kid should pull on the door of the dryer and it tips over.

DEFINITELY use the proper kit !!


Post# 253630 , Reply# 5   12/12/2007 at 13:58 (4,120 days old) by lavamat_jon (-)        

Jamie - when our washer and dryer were stacked (both Miele) we didn't bother with a stacking kit at all and it didn't move an inch off the top... saved us �65. I would use one if you used another brand of washer, but seeming as Miele washers are so solid there's no risk of it vibrating off. They aren't that heavy either - I've stacked and unstacked them just by myself before but I'm saying that as a 6'2 guy, don't do anything that you know is beyond your limit :-).

Jon


Post# 253665 , Reply# 6   12/12/2007 at 17:33 (4,120 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
The movers managed

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To knock my Miele dryer off the washer after loosening the restrainers.
OK, they also dropped my dishwasher down the stairs, killed my favorite 1979 Philips 40cm TL and did various other and sundry damage.
But that means to me, if they could do it, a child or an unbalanced load could, too.
Get the restraining kit. If they sell the one with the slide out board in the 'States, spend the extra money. It is so very much worth it.
Whatever you do, do not just plop it on there unrestrained.
Way too dangerous.
I have moved Miele dryers with one other man (I'm 6'2" and solid muscle between the ears) but it is a hell of a lot easier for three people to do it - the third need not be that strong, just serve to guide things. Makes it much easier.


Post# 253684 , Reply# 7   12/12/2007 at 19:00 (4,120 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Okay, I think I'll just buy the kit and install it myself, the kit is $169 so I'm hoping it comes with the pull out table top!

Now that I've got that cleared up, I have a couple questions about the dryer itself (T1415)...

Does anyone know what the temperatures are for each drying cycle?

What exactly does the "Turbo" option do?

What exactly does the "Full Load" option do?

Thanks for any info!


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Post# 253835 , Reply# 8   12/13/2007 at 12:13 (4,120 days old) by nmaineman36 ()        

In my T9800 the Turbo feature just tells the dryer to use high heat. Which isnt that high I think. But it does make a diffence speed wise. Is this dryer vented? I think that the cord is a 4 prong. With mine its 4 prong and I had to buy the adapter cord to go from 4 prong to 3 prong.
Let us know what you think about the dryer. I know I love mine and so far no problems.
Oh and if you dont choose the Turbo feature it will default to a medium temp. Gentle temp is just that. You cannot choose however a Gentle/Turbo combo.


Post# 253839 , Reply# 9   12/13/2007 at 12:21 (4,120 days old) by nmaineman36 ()        

Oh and aother thing...the Status indicator will let you know what stage of drying your load is in...it starts off drying then as the load dries it will tell you what stage its at...Rotary iron to Hand Iron to Normal. When it shifts to normal it will automatically shift on to CoolDown unless you choose Extra dry...it will add a bit more time. The cooldown is temp controlled...not time. When it reaches room temp the dryer will shut off and say End. If you dont open the door it will automatically shift to a Wrinkle Guard Mode for an hour. When the dryer shifts to cooldown the drum reverses every 30 seconds. You will find that the load will be fluffy.


Post# 253853 , Reply# 10   12/13/2007 at 12:49 (4,120 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Typically, heating elements in Euro dryers can heat the air up to 158F - that is what I've read and also measured in several (condenser) dryers (without damp clothes in it, of course).

Post# 253862 , Reply# 11   12/13/2007 at 13:34 (4,120 days old) by aquarius1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        
Always use a stacking kit

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Remember that dryers have no suspension or balance control whatsoever and that huge bedding load always tangles up as you know. Its amazing how many dryers I have seen Miele, Hoover, Lux, Hotpoint that all move with that unbalanced tangled bedding load in it and they are not sat where they were originally installed after the cycle due to rocking side to side and walking. Not worth the risk.

Post# 254124 , Reply# 12   12/14/2007 at 13:23 (4,119 days old) by lavamat_jon (-)        

Jamie,

The gentle options would be the same as low temperature over here, which is just that... it actually runs very cool and clothes are just barely warm to the touch if you open it mid cycle - great as it doesn't shrink ANYTHING like our old Bosch or Hotpoint dryers would. Yet due to the great airflow it will still dry towels in 45 minutes after a 1600rpm spin on low temperature, and will leave them fluffy - not hard to the touch like with our old Hotpoint (and the new one we had briefly too) dryers in particular.

You won't find tangling an issue with Miele dryers - they have anti tangle sensors which sense when to reverse if a load is tangled. The dealer (who I used to work with, where we bought the dryer from) said this was done judging by torque on the motor or something, but nevertheless is a feature they've had for about 5 years or so now that they don't promote that much. The reversing pattern is irregular too, and doesn't have stupid 5 escond reverses like so many dryers of today have.

Ours doesn't move at all during operation, presumably because it's level, and it didn't move one iota during the several months it was stacked on the washer during the thousands of loads it goes through a day... sits on it's own at the other end of the utility at the moment due to problems with the electric circuit in the utility (if you use the socket near the back door then the circuit will blow if both the washer and dryer are plugged in). In my view spending so much on a stacking kit I wouldn't bother unless you want the shelf... the advantage with the Miele kit is that shelf which I imagine would be surprisingly convenient - though I've noticed more manufacturers seem to have a similar offering nowadays.

I used a stacking kit with my AEG 86741 but that was an entirely different beast... even if it was completely level it would vibrate sometimes quite violently until the self adjusting foot found itself level, but the Miele machines don't vibrate at all so in my view it is safe enough to put a dryer directly on top.

Jon


Post# 254163 , Reply# 13   12/14/2007 at 16:22 (4,118 days old) by northernmary (Huddersfield - West Yorkshire)        

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Here is my Miele Premier 500 washer with the Miele Condenser Dryer T4262C stacked on top of each other and the shelf is most handy when loading and unloading.

Northernmary


Post# 254167 , Reply# 14   12/14/2007 at 17:04 (4,118 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
You will also need the adapter if you are going to have both

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I have my set side by side and they work well with the universal adapter. It came with my set, although, I bought them as a set. Yes, get the stacking kit. I believe tha the top has to come off of the washer for it to fit properly. There is one thing that is important to remember with these dryers, they are not like a typical American Dryer. Normal is still really damp when clothes are finished. This is what Miele told me as well as the people at Luwa Distributing, Germans like to Iron, so Normal would be a little bit damp dry. When setting your dryness level, make sure you set it on more dry or extra dry, I usually opt for more dry.They also tumble two dirrections, kind of unique, and very effective when drying. Most of the settings are sensor programs, I usually use Normal and set it for the anti crease .Once in a while, somethings will not be all of the way dry if it is a really thick article of clothing, I just toss it back in for 20 min, and bam! it is dry. One more thing, I do not use fabric softener like I once did after getting a Miele. You just don't need it. I have it and use it once in a while, I just find that things do not have the static cling like they did with the Maytag dryer that I once had. I am not over drying my clothes. If you do opt for softener, don't use sheets in the dryer, use it in the washer. There is alot more airflow in these machines. There is a likely hood that it will just, and this is what Miele said, just clog up the machine and end up in the fluff filter. I have done clothes for one of my friends just to help her get caught up, and the towels I wash here always come out fluffier than they do at her house. That is why she loves it when I wash for them.If you have any questions about it, just e-mail me, I have had this dryer for three years. Cheers!




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