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Thread Number: 15003
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| Post# 253867 , Reply# 2 12/13/2007 at 13:56 (5,971 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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Is this your machine? If so I believe it's a water codensing one and in this case you need to leave the water running during the drying phase as it is used to condense the steam CLICK HERE TO GO TO dj-gabriele's LINK | ||
| Post# 253879 , Reply# 3 12/13/2007 at 14:41 (5,971 days old) by vacuumfreeeke () | ||
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yes That is the model I will be getting. I wish I had a way to know for sure... the manual written by people who barely know English isn't clear. Which method is better just out of curiosity, or are they identical in performance? Thanks! | ||
| Post# 253882 , Reply# 4 12/13/2007 at 14:42 (5,971 days old) by vacuumfreeeke () | ||
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and... If it has a tank that needs emptied does that mean that it is the air kind? I'd assume that the ones that require cold water would be able to drain in the sink... does that make sense? | ||
Post# 253891 , Reply# 5 12/13/2007 at 15:08 (5,971 days old) by launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Water cooled systems mean one has to located the machine near a source of cold water. No problem for washer dryer combinations but if you wish to put your dryer elsewhere than a laundry area, and or do not have two cold water connections, there can be some problems. As they require water, cold water units may not be the best solution for those trying to save on water bills/use. At school, our home economics lab had a water cooled condenser dryer (full sized, forget by whom), and teacher often complained about having to use it during water shortages. | ||
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Post# 253892 , Reply# 6 12/13/2007 at 15:12 (5,971 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 253927 , Reply# 9 12/13/2007 at 16:46 (5,971 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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~Most condenser dryers use room air as the cold part of the condensing system..... ~I bet that this washer-dryer does the condensing with water, like standard European machines... So machines that are dryers "only" use air as the condensing medium and combos (washers & dryers in one tub) use water as the condensing medium in Europe? | ||
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Post# 253930 , Reply# 11 12/13/2007 at 17:00 (5,971 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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I'm pretty sure EdgeStar is right on this one. Never heard of a washer/dryer that stores its own condensed water. Besides our washer and dryer, we also have a W/D combo (not by EdgeStar) at home and it operates just like the EdgeStar rep said: it consumes cold water throughout the drying cycle and drains it through drain hose. | ||
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Post# 253935 , Reply# 12 12/13/2007 at 17:46 (5,971 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 253941 , Reply# 13 12/13/2007 at 18:00 (5,971 days old) by vacuumfreeeke () | ||
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well... The instructions do not say... if they do, I couldn't find it! Some require using the water and some do not. I just want to do the right thing so I don't hurt the machine and so that it performs as well as it can! | ||
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Post# 253964 , Reply# 14 12/13/2007 at 20:35 (5,971 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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~What's the big deal about not leaving the water on during the dry cycle? When a condenser dryer uses water as the cooling/condensing medium, the water needs to be on or no drying will occur! If you have a portable combo with a uni-couple faucet connection, for example, you'll end up blocking your sink for HOURS!!!!! In a narrow galley kitchen (say as found in NYC) this may prevent you from doing ANYTHING in the kitchen except perhaps for ordering take-out(take-away) or making reservations! :-) | ||
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Post# 254153 , Reply# 15 12/14/2007 at 15:22 (5,970 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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These washer/dryer combos come in vented versions and in condenser ones that need to be hooked up to cold (!) water when it's drying. There are no washer/dryer combos with a container simply there is no space in these machines for such a big container. A condensing system that uses air for the condensor is not possible either in these machines, an air cooled condensor takes up way too much space too. Louis | ||
| Post# 254161 , Reply# 16 12/14/2007 at 16:15 (5,970 days old) by selectomatic () | ||
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On page 21 of the Owner's Manual, in the Troubleshooting Problem: Washer does not dry Possible Cause and Remedy (#3): Is the water turned on? The dryer uses cold water during the dry cycle to create the condensation process. Is the unit connected to cold water? | ||
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Post# 254796 , Reply# 18 12/17/2007 at 18:49 (5,967 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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as stated above W/D combos are either 1- vented 2- condensers using water to dry. As stated above is yours is UNVENTED it needs COLD water to dry. Items will still be "Dewy" at the end of the cycle. In the open air they will become fully dry, quickly. If VENTED It may have a clogged filter. It may be in a closed or high humidty-space. If possible, vent the warm, moist air away from the machine and certainly away form any air intakes. Open a window if the room in which it it located is small. Did the machine reach full spin speed? Did the artcicles of clothing comprising that load fall away from the tub/cylinder/drum wall early in the drying process process? It may simply be that on 120v it needs longer than 2 hours to dry. Remeber that a washer load in a compo is actually TWO dryer loads, usually. If overfilled the machine will take a long time to dry, dry unevenly and wrinkle your clothing to heck! I had an Italian-made Ccomb-o-matic washer/dryer back in the early 80's and it does take getting used to! My instrutions recommended fabric softener to ensure the clothing fell off the tub walls to ensure good drying! Hope this helps. | ||
| Post# 254887 , Reply# 19 12/18/2007 at 04:47 (5,967 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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Equator machine are water condensor so they need cold water turned on whenever they're running. | ||
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Post# 256507 , Reply# 21 12/27/2007 at 17:36 (5,957 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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You did not say what type of laundry you were drying,nor how full the machine was. 1. Heavy cottons and linen fabrics will take longer to dry then man made fibers. Especially with the low heat and air flow of 110v dryers. Unless the final spin is in excess of 1200rpms, count on one, to perhaps two hours to dry a "full" load. 2. Being as the above may, as you were already told, combination washer/dryer units are NOT the best dryers simply because of their design. Dryers normally have much larger drums than front loading washing machines of the same rated capacity, simply because larger drums provide for the air flow and movement required for heat and air to get at the laundry, fluff it and evaporate the moisture. With combination units, one either has to load the unit half or less full when using automatich "wash and dry", or take half or more of the laundry out of the machine before starting the drying process. If the machine is over loaded you will be drying items for hours and probably not even then get them totally dry. 3. Your post above is confusing, as you state the water was turned off, then you say you tried with the water on. Equator only made combination W&D units which used cold water (unvented), so you need to have water running into the machine. Keep in mind the unit requires "COLD" water, the colder the better as the difference in temperature between the hot air coming from the dryer, against the cold water is what causes the condensation which dries the laundry. If your area's cold water is above 86F, as it can be in some areas of the United States, during warmer times of the year and or warm weather, then drying times are going to be longer because you are actually using luke-warm to tepid water instead of cold. All and all combination units are not the best thing since sliced bread they are promoted to be. Even in Europe, most consumer rating/guides suggest consumers if at all possible try for separate washers and dryers, and that is with 220v power heating the dryer. Equator units have been plauged with problems for years now, though earlier models seemed to do their jobs reasonably well. L. | ||
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Post# 256851 , Reply# 24 12/29/2007 at 22:37 (5,955 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I guess nothing will ever compare favorably with the Bendix Duomatic. The electric condenser drying machines usually dried a full 8 pound load of cottons in 45 to 60 minutes, 60 minutes being a rarely needed amount of time. | ||
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Post# 256856 , Reply# 25 12/29/2007 at 23:09 (5,955 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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YeahBut
How much electric power or gas did those units draw? Even today's full sized electric dryers are not rated the same as they were in the past. Heck one or two housewives using a Hamilton dryer at the same time probably took out the electic grid for the area! *LOL* Seriously, dryers back then ran much hotter in most cases to deal with laundry that was wetter than even today's puny top loaders spin things. L. | ||
| Post# 257103 , Reply# 26 1/1/2008 at 09:31 (5,953 days old) by mrx () | ||
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Yeah, I think older dryers (including European ones) were far more power hungry than their modern counterparts. I've seen 3-phase European dryers for residential use dating back to the 1960s !!! 380V 50Hz 3 Phase. They possibly drew about 6 KW | ||
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