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I'll repeat my mantra: The Electrolux-made Frigidaire TL'ers have controlled tub indexing. It is not 'freewheeling'.

Sorry if you've read this before. I posted it in another thread, too:

If you set the water level to its lowest setting and the agitation speed to slow, you can reach in and grab one of the agitator fins during agitation. The increased resistance somehow shifts power from the agitator to the tub, which then indexes according to how short the agitator's clockwise stroke was.

You can actually feel the agitator 'lose power', and then power instantly shifts to the tub, which begins indexing. It has nothing to do with the tub just whirling around capriciously because there isn't a tub brake. When grabbing an agitator fin, it's actually fairly easy to completely prevent a clockwise stroke. Then the tub indexes almost one complete revolution.

During a regular wash cycle, it takes a fair amount of muscle power to try to stop the tub from indexing by grabbing the upper rim. That indexing action is definitely being powered!

This is why there is little indexing when the load is light (less resistance against the clockwise stroke of the agitator), and a lot of indexing when the machine is dealing with a large, heavy load (a lot of resistance against the clockwise stroke of the agitator).

Unfortunately, I don't know, mechanically, how this transfer of power is accomplished within the transmission.


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Post# 265689 2/19/2008 at 14:10 (5,903 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)
Checkrate/Likes Starting bid at 0.99! Spitting image of an old Westinghouse TL and looks beautiful. Located in Indiana. Someone should get this! CLICK HERE TO GO TO jons1077's LINK on eBay

Post# 265704 , Reply# 1 2/19/2008 at 16:24 (5,903 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)
Checkrate/Likes Highland IN, is close to Chicago. Nice mo-chine!

Post# 266141 , Reply# 2 2/22/2008 at 01:04 (5,901 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai�i)
Checkrate/Likes Someone pleez save this machine! I'm too far away!

Post# 266156 , Reply# 3 2/22/2008 at 05:33 (5,901 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)
Checkrate/Likes *oooh....* would this gal have the coveted Burp-o-lator action???

Post# 266200 , Reply# 4 2/22/2008 at 09:56 (5,901 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)
Checkrate/Likes No,it has a filter in the back of the tub like a Frigidaire Jet Action 1-18.It is made by Westinghouse not Norge.It also has the indexing we all "love" lol

Post# 266213 , Reply# 5 2/22/2008 at 13:02 (5,900 days old) by mulls ()
Checkrate/Likes *Parts* Hello friends Since this basic design is still being made,would parts be easy to get?Goatfarmer,could you address this? Tom

Post# 266214 , Reply# 6 2/22/2008 at 13:40 (5,900 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)
Checkrate/Likes No, this design was dropped in the early 90's. Can't find an oil or water seal for them----and oil seals were a constant issue with these. After White got them they started to tinker with what was a basically good design.

Post# 266223 , Reply# 7 2/22/2008 at 15:47 (5,900 days old) by mulls ()
Checkrate/Likes *Thanks Gyrafoam* I thought that was too good to be true.I always liked the washing action of these.Am I mistaken,or was the indexing action "controlled" as opposed to the "freewheeling"indexing of the new Frigidaire top loaders,or was the difference in the design of the agitator? Tom

Post# 266239 , Reply# 8 2/22/2008 at 19:12 (5,900 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)
Checkrate/Likes I'll repeat my mantra: The Electrolux-made Frigidaire TL'ers have controlled tub indexing. It is not 'freewheeling'. Sorry if you've read this before. I posted it in another thread, too: If you set the water level to its lowest setting and the agitation speed to slow, you can reach in and grab one of the agitator fins during agitation. The increased resistance somehow shifts power from the agitator to the tub, which then indexes according to how short the agitator's clockwise stroke was. You can actually feel the agitator 'lose power', and then power instantly shifts to the tub, which begins indexing. It has nothing to do with the tub just whirling around capriciously because there isn't a tub brake. When grabbing an agitator fin, it's actually fairly easy to completely prevent a clockwise stroke. Then the tub indexes almost one complete revolution. During a regular wash cycle, it takes a fair amount of muscle power to try to stop the tub from indexing by grabbing the upper rim. That indexing action is definitely being powered! This is why there is little indexing when the load is light (less resistance against the clockwise stroke of the agitator), and a lot of indexing when the machine is dealing with a large, heavy load (a lot of resistance against the clockwise stroke of the agitator). Unfortunately, I don't know, mechanically, how this transfer of power is accomplished within the transmission.