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Thread Number: 16077
Several have asked for pics of my stored Kenmores and WPs..... |
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Post# 268354 3/7/2008 at 19:05 (5,886 days old) by kenmoreguy64  (Charlotte, NC) |
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Here are some pictures I took quickly today of some of the Kenmores and Whirlpools that I have in storage. I took two of the machines out to take home while taking these shots but I thought you all might enjoy seeing these. In this shot you can see two 1965 Lady Ks and a 1966. I am no photographer and I apologize for the quality. Just figured you might like to see the gems that for a while I considered dumping. Thanks to AW.org I am now reinvigorated regarding working on these. The headless machine (center, second from front) is a 1975 70 series quiet pak. I will bring home tomorrow the machine in the lower left, front. 
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Post# 268355 , Reply# 1 3/7/2008 at 19:08 (5,886 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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And another lousy pic... | ||
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Post# 268357 , Reply# 2 3/7/2008 at 19:11 (5,886 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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funny.... | ||
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Post# 268358 , Reply# 3 3/7/2008 at 19:14 (5,886 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Oh well.... | ||
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Post# 268359 , Reply# 4 3/7/2008 at 19:21 (5,886 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Now I'm feeling dumb | ||
| Post# 268361 , Reply# 5 3/7/2008 at 19:37 (5,886 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 268367 , Reply# 6 3/7/2008 at 20:59 (5,886 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Gordon, they're gorgeous | ||
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Post# 268430 , Reply# 7 3/8/2008 at 08:54 (5,886 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Thanks go all around then Mickeyd....
I have been a washer nut all my life. I enjoy doing my laundry, I enjoy listening to my washers operate, and I enjoy working on them. In the later 90s I became tired of working on my machines as doing so went from being a hobby to being work (not what I wanted in my spare time). I always knew that something would jump-start life back into my hobby, but rebuiding one machine in 2003 for a co-worker, doing work on my mother's dryer, then more or less rebuilding one of mine didn't give me the spark I needed. It took AW.org to do that. So, I thank you too because viewing this site daily for the last month or so has been a real thrill. Today, for the first time since 1997, I have two washers in my garage to bring back to life, and I'm doing that for my fun and enjoyment. KEWL! Thanks! | ||
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Post# 268446 , Reply# 8 3/8/2008 at 10:21 (5,886 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 268463 , Reply# 9 3/8/2008 at 12:04 (5,886 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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| Post# 268467 , Reply# 10 3/8/2008 at 12:30 (5,886 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Middle-aging, the counting capability and perception are com | ||
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Post# 268486 , Reply# 11 3/8/2008 at 15:04 (5,886 days old) by suds14 (Pittsburgh) |
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Great pictures. The third washer from the back on the right hand side looke the the Kenmore my grandma had. You have a great bunch of older machines. These were they best type of washers. Thank for the pictures. | ||
| Post# 268495 , Reply# 12 3/8/2008 at 15:40 (5,886 days old) by dynaflow (rockingham nc) | ||
hey neighbor | ||
| Post# 268496 , Reply# 13 3/8/2008 at 15:44 (5,886 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area) | ||
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Gordon, wonderful collection of vintage Kenmores. When I was a full time repairman I think I worked/repaired every single model you have shown there. Sure brings back fond memories of that design. Loved working on Kenmores! Diagnosing a problem was a snap on them........sure made for fast repairs......... | ||
| Post# 268497 , Reply# 14 3/8/2008 at 16:01 (5,886 days old) by danelto (State College, PA) | ||
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Truly Amazing Holy Rip!!! I think a beautiful picture like that should be painted on the ceiling of a church!!! Gorgeous! The first pic--middle Kenmore--will it be for sale? Dan | ||
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Post# 268503 , Reply# 15 3/8/2008 at 17:06 (5,886 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 268553 , Reply# 17 3/9/2008 at 00:16 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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THANK YOU for all the great comments
I've been busy today with one of my refugees from storage, but I wanted to reply to a couple posts you guys made (thanks again by the way). The Roto-Flex agitator, at least I think, belongs in one of the Ladies, if so, I can't sell it as I'll need it. If it's a spare, and I honestly don't remember since it's been so long, you're welcome to it mickeyd. Re: the comments about the center-dial washer mid-way back. I actually have two of those. There were several other washers in the trailer that I did not photograph. I had already moved them onto the warehouse floor when I took those shots but I have another center dial Kenmore of the same vintage, but one model or so lower than the one in the picture. I would be glad to see both machines find happy owners...I only intend to keep a few for a working collection. I don't have plans to keep any of the Lady Ks (but I sure wish one of them was a '62,'63 or '64 Lady). There seems to be a lot of us washer folk here in the NC area. I'd be glad to show anyone the trailer (you have to climb into it in normal circumstances) and we can talk shop too! I have made a friend from this site who lives in town and is real joy to talk to - he might enjoy a visit as well. I think I covered it all - thanks again everyone. | ||
| Post# 268587 , Reply# 19 3/9/2008 at 10:44 (5,885 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN) | ||
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Another 800! I see a dream machine in the right rear! And OMG! Is that Avocado???? There's also a 1968 "No guesswork" washer in front of it with the sliding panel. Those are cool too! | ||
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Post# 268595 , Reply# 20 3/9/2008 at 11:10 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Re: a '62 Lady K
Charles, I have only seen one '62 Lady K in my life. It belonged to our neighbor when I was a kid. My mother had a 1961 Kenmore 70 (there's a clone of it in the trailer, but some "brilliant engineer" years ago transplanted one of those early 70s plastic tops on to it). Moms machine and the neighbors '62 Lady both had bearing chatter problems, which I think was not unusual. The two together, if they were in the same room, could have drowned out a marching band. Anyway, the '62 seems to have been the basis for the '63. I have no idea why, but I have seen about a dozen '63 Lady Ks over the years - in aqua, coppertone, and white. I could have had one as-is when I bought my sister's washer from the same guy, but I didn't have room for it (kicking myself now almost DAILY). The '62 has the same style control panel, though I remember the dial being smaller, the push buttons were white in color with letters A thru H but had printing on them too and Kenmore pastel colors. The pregnant Roto Swirl was still in use, and the machine had an "800" tab on the far right corner of the top. It had "automatic washer" in classic script printed above the controls. The '63 is clearly a decendent of the '62, and I think even a casual observer would recognize the lineage. Still not sure why so many '63s seem to be out there. I hope that helps Charles! | ||
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Post# 268596 , Reply# 21 3/9/2008 at 11:26 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Hey Jason!
Yepper that is another 800. I thought of it when I saw the white one at lighted controls recently. I don't know much about that machine yet because I acquired it late in my dealings with these and put it directly into storage. A local appliance store gets weekly truckloads of old machines from Maryland. Not sure why they do that, but they have for years. It came in, and went immediately to the yard, which means that eventually it would go into the scrap bin. So I helped myself. Actually a few of the machines in my storage came from there. I think the recent 800 in white (is that yours?) may be a tad nicer cosmetically but I'm hoping someone will want that 800, and it is indeed Avocado. The no-guesswork machine is surely the dark horse of that trailer. I think it is going to need a new cabinet as the right front leg gusset was rusted nearly away 10 years ago. I was given that machine by an enthusiastic co-worker, but I said "Gee thanks!" and went on my way wondering what the heck to do with it. If anyone knows of an Avocado cabinet out there in decent shape, I can probably do a cabinet swap and the machine would be dandy. I have a white no guesswork machine too, though it is not in the trailer. I took it on trade from a guy who was using it until 1992 when the pump went out. It's dirty like the others, and that's an ugly gash in the porcelain, otherwise it's a pretty cool machine. Have a great day everyone, more washer work awaits me. 
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Post# 268597 , Reply# 22 3/9/2008 at 11:27 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Another two views | ||
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Post# 268598 , Reply# 23 3/9/2008 at 11:29 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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The money shot.... | ||
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Post# 268683 , Reply# 25 3/9/2008 at 22:08 (5,884 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Charles, Though similar, especially by verbal/written description, the 62 Lady K and the 61 high-line 70 are a good bit different in appearance. The '62 Lady K's eight buttons are white, with printed on colors of yellow, aqua, etc. instead of being fully colored like the 61 model 70. I think the '62 had a flourescent lighted panel to the left of the timer & buttons just like the '63, but I am not certain of that. The '62 looks like the cousin to the '63 that it is. The 1961 model 70, though presumably a product of the same cosmetic design shop, does not have the same styling cues that the other two have. The '61 seems to have the last remnants of 50s styling, whereas the 62 and 63 seem to have set the stage for a round-dial, streamlined approach that was seen in 63 model 60s and 70s, and well into the later 60s on model 70s, etc. I'll try to get you a pic from a catalog. I have to have an assistant at work scan it....that'll be fun explaining!! What catalog had the model 70 in it that you scanned? I am still glad you did that for me, btw! | ||
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Post# 268731 , Reply# 29 3/10/2008 at 09:30 (5,884 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Guys - I think the dryer had engravements like you're suggesting. The 63 Lady K dryer didn't have button aside the knob like the washer did, and mechanically I don't think the two years were very different. I was just thinking the same thing about where "Lady Kenmore" is written on the machine. Of course I forgot to bring my catalog with me today, or I'd look now. That tab on the top had said "Seventy" on some models in 61, perhaps earlier too, then I've seen "70" and "800" on others from 62. I am not sure if the Lady says that or 800. Again, I'll check the catalog when I get home tonight. | ||
| Post# 268753 , Reply# 30 3/10/2008 at 14:46 (5,884 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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HI Guys! Sorry to add to the confusion......
the 4th&5th pics in the link are those of my 62 Lady Kenmore--or so I was told. But when I opened her up the brass switcing plates for the bleach and softener dispensers say 64. Dating machines (HAHAH) remains one of life's great mysteries for me. Enjoy the pictures and forgive the new confusion ;'D CLICK HERE TO GO TO mickeyd's LINK | ||
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Post# 268760 , Reply# 31 3/10/2008 at 15:33 (5,884 days old) by suds14 (Pittsburgh) |
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Kemoreguy64, Thanks for posting the 68 kenmore washer pictures 3-9-08. That was my grandma's washer, only hers was avacoda green, and had the suds saver. It brought back some great memories for me. Thanks David | ||
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Post# 268770 , Reply# 32 3/10/2008 at 16:07 (5,884 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Figuring out an elusive Lady's age...
Mickeyd - I think that is a '63. If the model number is anything like 110.6304800, 801, 802, etc. then it's a 63 model. Anything that is a 63 model could have been made from the later half of 1962 well into 1964. The parts you were looking at could well be original and therefore the machine was made in 1964, OR the parts themselves were made then and replaced to the machine at some point later on, or scavenged from a later model. My personal 1986 made Kenmore (August production) is actually a 1983 model release. In my rebuilder days, I had two copies of one machine that were '74 models made in 76 and 77, then I got another years later that was made in 78, yet was the same model. The 78 even had the short centerpost engineering that came out that year. Some models only lasted a year or a season with Sears, others stayed out there for three or four years. I'd love to know how those decisions were made. WAY COOL washer, btw. Years ago I could have had one of those and I screwed up and didn't get it. Has yours been restored or is that beauty an original? VERY nice indeed. Lots of my friends mothers had those growing up, one lady, who had 5 kids and a mother of her own at home, had two at once with a dryer (a 60 series) in between. When they were both running I'd go nuts. My friend just tolerated my enthusiasm... | ||
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Post# 268771 , Reply# 33 3/10/2008 at 16:10 (5,884 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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David / Suds14 | ||
| Post# 268812 , Reply# 34 3/10/2008 at 19:47 (5,884 days old) by jamman_98 (Columbia, SC) | ||
OMG | ||
| Post# 268831 , Reply# 35 3/10/2008 at 21:17 (5,883 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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| Post# 268839 , Reply# 36 3/10/2008 at 21:39 (5,883 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 268850 , Reply# 37 3/10/2008 at 22:25 (5,883 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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Post# 268930 , Reply# 39 3/11/2008 at 07:45 (5,883 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA) |
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I like the Kenmores...
It's not always about whether or not a particular machine looked good in our current perception. It's about these machines bringing back good memories. At least that's what it is for me. Alot of people would walk by an avocado green machine or one of these Kenmores and say it looks horrible. When I see one of those black-panel BD Kenmores I think of my childhood because it's what I grew up with. I couldn't care in the least otherwise. I think that's where their beauty is. Granted, some machines are simply beautiful. Terry has the most gorgeous Maytag! :-) Thanks for readin. Jon | ||
| Post# 268965 , Reply# 40 3/11/2008 at 10:18 (5,883 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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I do not think of washing machines as children. Personally, I do not want any of the machines posted. However, I do think that it was kind of the owner to post the pics, and offer to repair these to anyone here that may want a 1960's to 1980's machine. The styling on these are similar to other brands of the same era. Think fake woodgrain, ect. One persons trash is another persons treasure with this hobby. There are people here that would love to own one of the machines pictured. There is no reason to post rude comments, just because these machines do not interest you. BTW: How is your collection coming along? Do you have anything to show us? Just making an observation...... <: | ||
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Post# 268991 , Reply# 41 3/11/2008 at 11:28 (5,883 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Re: the styling nightmares....
Here's my take on this discussion: While I will admit that some Kenmores are more attractive in my eye than others, I don't presume that anyone else should share the reaction that I have to them. If someone likes the same things as I do, GREAT, we can have a lot to talk about. If they have a different passion, that's great too, I'm happy that they have one. I don't have many fond memories from childhood of Maytags, GEs or any other brand that doesn't do much with the lid raised. As a young kid, I may not have had the hours of cheap amusement had it been that my folks bought something other than their 1961, 1974 and 1983 Kenmores (though I may have adjusted accordingly). Fact is, we had Kenmores and I continued that by buying my own later. Today we still have them and I very much enjoy a Kenmore, styling nightmare or not. You'll never catch me making an excuse for appreciating what I do. It's ironic that my granmothers both had Whirlpools, most of our neighbors had Kenmores or WPs as well, so I grew up thinking those machines were "the bomb" and I still do. In my storage can be seen a 1974 Kenmore (front-most machine on the left in the first pic). That is a clone of my mother's second washer. I am planning on treating that machine to a total restore this spring/summer, which will involve renewing the mechanicals using new WP parts, and repainting the cabinet which is yellowed now and has some surface rust. It's going to be a decent amount of work, but more fun than real work due to my memories of that machine (I was 10 when we got ours and 18 when we sold it to a friend of mine). I would have no interest at all in devoting that much time to a Maytag, they simply don't "do it" for me, but I'm not going to advocate to anyone that their Maytag or otherwise is anything less than just as valuable and important to them. I think we're really fortunate to have AW.org as a forum to discuss our washing machine and appliance hobbies. Let's face it, there aren't many other venues out there....we should respect the feelings of other members and be appreciative of the opportunities we have with AW and therefore work to keep the experience fun and enjoyable. | ||
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