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It's a Keeper! Miele W1065 |
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Post# 269974 3/16/2008 at 12:12 (5,882 days old) by sudsmaster  (SF Bay Area, California) |
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In another thread I mentioned that I'd gotten a free Miele W1065 washer off Craig's List. The donor stated that it stopped working, and just made a buzzing noise when one tried to start it. She said she called Miele and was told it was probably a relay, which would cost $125 for the part pluse $200 for the service visit. I picked up the washer at night (tricky negotiating about 14 outdoor winding concrete steps). It sat in my shop for a week or so. Friday night I started working on it, and confirmed the relay was bad. I took apart the relay and fiddled with it, and got the washer to work, more or less, but it still had a problem (door lock then made a loud buzzing when it released the door). Last night I swapped out the relay from my other W1065, and lo and behold it resolved the door lock buzz issue. I pried the lid off that relay, saw how I'd reassembled the other one incorrectly, and worked on that one. As it happens, the problem with the relay is a small but intricate plastic plunger part, which had lost its grip on a metal actuating slideer. Unfortunately in my attempts to fix that, the plastic part crumbled even more. Finally I made what I though was a crude fix, using a brass wire to hold the two pieces together (there's also a spring and a thin metal plate sandwiched in there). It was good enough to get the machine working. Don't know how long that fix will last, though. At $125 for the new relay, I'm going to look at Radio Shack and other places to see if I can get a generic relay to do the same thing. All it is, is a 110 volt 60 hz relay, that takes a low amperage 110 volt input (I measured it) and then uses that to drive the plunger momentarily to close the points on a 15 amp 110 volt circuit. There must be lots of these sorts of relays around. Meanwhile I'm going to move some machines around in the shop, and give the "new" W1065 a full test, then maybe a load of whites. | ||
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Post# 270067 , Reply# 1 3/16/2008 at 18:28 (5,882 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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O Hubris, Thy Name Is Miele
Just kidding. Watched the W1065 go through a normal hot (200F) wash, with just water, no clothes, no detergent. All was hunky dory until it got to about 160F, and there were a couple of clicks, a little buzz, and the machine shut down. No power, no drain no nuttin'. So I gently opened the door, siphoned out about couple of gallons of very hot water (ouch). Looked around, couldn't see any signs of electrical arcing, so then I opened up the other machine, pulled the good relay, put it in the machine being tested. Sure enough, it then agreed to drain etc. Buttoned it all back up and resumed the 200F test wash. Also planning on visiting Radio Shack and a few other electronics stores to see if I can get a 110 volt 15 amp relay on the cheap. The one I "repaired" is most likely beyond hope. Live and learn, or whatever. Still love the machine. So quiet. So much fun sloshing. | ||
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Post# 270116 , Reply# 2 3/16/2008 at 19:04 (5,882 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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For such simple looking machines, those "mechanical" Miele washers are rather complicated, aren't they? Glad you and yours live on to fight another day. At the rate you seem to aquire vintage Miele washing machines, you should soon have yet another donor machine! *LOL* Guess am blessed my vintage 1070 needed nothing more than a good cleaning out and a new door boot. *Knock Wood* L. | ||
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Post# 270141 , Reply# 3 3/16/2008 at 20:22 (5,882 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Well, this sort of makes up for the royal rip-off ($400, in "excellent condition") the charming French couple did on me with the W1065/T1070 washer dryer set I got last year. I believe that washer probably has motor problems, but I'll have to do more troubleshooting to determing what's up. It is certainly helpful to have two machines in known states, so that I can compare and contrast, and swap parts out as needed. Anyhoo, I just got back from Radio Shack where I found a generic relay that should work just fine. It will require some additional wiring to get the spade connections to work, but that's relatively simple. Cost? $8.49... vs. $125 for the Miele version. Washer just completed a 200F normal cotton cycle successfully. Off to toss it a full load of whites and the obligatory Persil. I will be keeping an eye out for any other debilitated Mieles out there. Some may be unfixable for reasonable cost, but it doesn't hurt to have donor machines. :-) | ||
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Post# 270230 , Reply# 4 3/16/2008 at 23:50 (5,882 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Hey Laundress
W1065 #2 finished the load of tidy whities with flying colors. Well, flying whites. Anyway, I was wondering in you have any input on the subject of that funky Miele drainhose hook. The 1918 came without one, but both 1065's have this plastic U-shaped tube pressed onto a rubber fitting on the end on the drain hose. The concept is good; the hook tube can swivel to fit a standpipe or sink without torquing the hose. But on both machines I've noticed a fair amount of play, and worse, water leakage from the swivel fitting. I don't see any way of tightening it, either. Have you run across this problem? I'm inclined to just yank the U-tube and fit something else instead. I might try to put an outer rubber tube (like a section of a bicycle inner tube) over the join, and secure it with hose clamps, if it comes to that. | ||
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Post# 270238 , Reply# 5 3/17/2008 at 01:17 (5,882 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 270245 , Reply# 6 3/17/2008 at 03:16 (5,882 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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The Miele operating instructions manual does not discuss the drain hose or its fittings. On the page where such might be discussed, it states "Important! Please read separate instruction booklet enclosed with this machine." Naturally, I don't have that booklet, and don't think it's available on-line. In any case, I've noticed that the hook is detachable - easier if it's been heated up with a hot water drain first. The leaking seems to occur if there is any pull on the hose - which perhaps cocks the fitting on the hook and allows a gap to form. Right now the washer (along with its mates) is installed in the workshop, where minor leakage is not an issue (it evaporates soon enough from the concrete floor (or is absorbed). Were I to move the washer into the main house laundrdy closet, where which it would drain into a standpipe between interior wall studs, I'd probably fit a rubber tube around the join as previously mentioned. | ||
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Post# 270345 , Reply# 7 3/17/2008 at 15:19 (5,881 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Success on the relay front, as well. Found a robust enough relay at Grainger - 20 amp capacity - and just installed that in the $400 W1065 (which gave its good relay to the recent arrival). Seems to work just fine for the door lock; still have to give it a full washing cycle to make sure, but I don't see a problem.
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Post# 270501 , Reply# 8 3/18/2008 at 13:20 (5,880 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 270505 , Reply# 9 3/18/2008 at 13:42 (5,880 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Wonderful! | ||
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Post# 270507 , Reply# 10 3/18/2008 at 14:09 (5,880 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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