Thread Number: 16347
Ummmm, Maytag Combo anyone???? |
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Post# 271779   3/23/2008 at 23:09 (5,875 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Hold on to your hats, boys and girls... it's combo week
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Post# 271780 , Reply# 1   3/23/2008 at 23:11 (5,875 days old) by hooverwheelaway ()   |   | |
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I'll take two! |
Post# 271784 , Reply# 2   3/23/2008 at 23:17 (5,875 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 271785 , Reply# 3   3/23/2008 at 23:22 (5,875 days old) by ~sudsshane ()   |   | |
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GadgetGary is gonna drool when he sees this! What a beautiful and unique machine! |
Post# 271786 , Reply# 4   3/23/2008 at 23:26 (5,875 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 271813 , Reply# 6   3/24/2008 at 08:05 (5,875 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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It's funny that another one has survived the recall and the years of storage. This makes five known to exist, Lee Maxwell told me that there is another in Kansas somewhere but not working, of course! I have a yellow model, there is one that was in the Maytag Factory Store in Newton which has been shipped to Whirlpool in Michigan, another in the Jasper County Museum in Newton, IA. Maytag recalled all of these combos in the early sixties, replacing them with TOL washer & dryer sets for free. I had heard that the recalled machines were shipped back to Newton to be destroyed, a costly endeavor but one that would make sure there would be very few left floating around to sully the Maytag name, things sure did change for Maytag attitudes in the next forty years! The engineering of these machines isn't all that bad, no worse than any other of the ghastly combos from other makers, but what a beast to work on. Even running it only now and then, it's a machine that needs to be babysat - I would never leave the machine running unattended. As with all the combos of the time that didn't have a suspension system, it has trouble balancing the load for spin and the Maytag combo is quite dramatic about it's dissatisfaction with even a slightly unbalanced load. We ran a load in it when Jeff and Fred were here from Chicago once and I thought Fred was going to jump out of his skin when it went into spin. It has a tendency to lurch and jump when the load is unbalanced, there is an unbalance-shut off mechanism that cycles it out of spin and back into tumble for re-distribution, but it doesn't take much to cause it to leap into the air. Severe unbalance like Fred and Jeff witnessed doesn't cause any damage, in fact, the moving drum actually knocks into the door glass and pushes the door open, shutting off the machine. It took me about a month of working on mine to get it running, the biggest obstacle was the motor coupling that was shot. I searched and searched for parts across the country and the only ones I was able to find still on the shelves were a few motor couplings (long after I needed them, but hey...) and a NOS water valve. The pump is very similar to the Bendix/Philco pumps of the day and there is a good possibility that seals may be interchangeable. The tranny is a silly design that hangs on a clamp-ring mount like a motor bracket at the back of the machine. Trying to silence vibration was their likely goal but it allows the tranny case to shake during operation which is very hard on the oil seals and consequently the oil drips almost constantly from the seals. I finally gave up, unable to find seals and live with the slight drippage that is caught on a maxi-pad stuck to the baseplate under the tranny. The tranny has a pulley on it that runs the blower which works just fine but the largest challenge is finding the blower fan belt which of course is a unique size to this machine. I was finally able to make a belt from a Frigidaire Skinny-Mini work, but it took many tries to get the adjustments right and I would still like to have a belt just a tad larger. CLICK HERE TO GO TO gansky1's LINK |
Post# 271818 , Reply# 7   3/24/2008 at 08:15 (5,875 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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You are so right about the condenser system in this combo, Tom. Rivaled only by the electric Bendix condenser (and that's a toss up because of the water-use, atomizing the water spray in the Maytag uses a lot less) but it does work very well and the circulating air from the blower helps speed up the process. The 340 RPM spin speed of the Maytag still makes it a slower unit negating some of the benefits of using less water & energy but that wasn't a huge concern at the time and it couldn't be avoided by anyone except Bendix/Philco-Bendix with their fistful of patents. The Maytag has a rather large space between the inner and outer drum at the back. The back of the inner drum is perforated which tends to whip up a lot of suds, but makes for some cool water-action for those who like to peek into the door glass.
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Post# 271832 , Reply# 9   3/24/2008 at 09:39 (5,875 days old) by sparkymarky1973 ()   |   | |
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Hi Guys Lovely machine. Can someone explain the story behind the recall to me? Is that why they were only made for 2 years? Thanks Mark |
Post# 271872 , Reply# 10   3/24/2008 at 14:00 (5,875 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Actually people were not forced to give them up. Bill and Bob, Maytag dealers John had worked with had a customer, a man who lived alone, who opted to keep his and storm troupers did not surround his place during the night and take it away. |
Post# 271875 , Reply# 11   3/24/2008 at 14:17 (5,875 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 271876 , Reply# 12   3/24/2008 at 14:25 (5,875 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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That must be true, it was then and still is the United States of America. Those units belonged to whomever paid for them, and as their property, Maytag couldn't force anyone to surrender anything. Offering other appliances, credits and or using scare tactics about continued use is another matter. Even today persons do not always return items on recall lists, however it must be noted once a recall is announced and one has been duly notified personally, then refusing to send back the item/appliance does release the maker from liability. L. |
Post# 271880 , Reply# 13   3/24/2008 at 15:00 (5,875 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 271890 , Reply# 14   3/24/2008 at 16:44 (5,874 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Mine survived because it had been installed in a kitchen in Newton, IA and it likely was impossible to fit a standard washer & dryer in the space of the combo. It clearly had been worked on through the years and obviously was used as only a dryer later in it's life. Of course nobody was forced to give them up, but I would imagine after a few repairs in or out of warranty, most were pretty willing ;-) The Westinghouse combo I had that was found in Spokane, WA had been in a vacation home and later moved to a basement after the property was sold. It seemed to work just fine and was probably working when removed from service but the model/serial tag had been removed so perhaps they opted for a refund from Westinghouse when it was available.
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Post# 271964 , Reply# 15   3/25/2008 at 03:19 (5,874 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 271980 , Reply# 16   3/25/2008 at 06:46 (5,874 days old) by dj-gabriele ()   |   | |
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Ahh, I'd sure bid on it if I were in the US... shipping trasn-oceanly would be bit too much expensive. I always loved those vintage American combos! They fascinate me in a way that I can't describe! |
Post# 271983 , Reply# 17   3/25/2008 at 07:15 (5,874 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)   |   | |
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Oh, I think there's likely a "snipe" or two out there somewhere----------- |
Post# 272200 , Reply# 19   3/26/2008 at 09:21 (5,873 days old) by thirtyater ()   |   | |
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Wow, so very close I am tempted to bid even though I am a big Filter Flo fan. Should I? |
Post# 272629 , Reply# 21   3/28/2008 at 16:54 (5,870 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 272753 , Reply# 22   3/29/2008 at 05:23 (5,870 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 272766 , Reply# 23   3/29/2008 at 07:49 (5,870 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 272777 , Reply# 24   3/29/2008 at 08:57 (5,870 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 272780 , Reply# 25   3/29/2008 at 09:13 (5,870 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)   |   | |
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Very suspicious bidding on this item. Granted the current winning bidder placed his best bid (at least $1,000.00), but when I see a new bidder placing bids in certain dollar increments, then placing an unusual final amount bid ($995.00), I begin to smell a rat. If the second bidder really was a serious bidder, he would have placed a $1,000 bid rather than $5.00 less than the other bid. I have been involved with unscrupulous sellers twice before. They created fake eBay IDs only to jump up the price on their items, knowing full well what my highest bid already was. This auction COULD be on the up-and-up, but just APPEARS to be shaky. I hope that the winning bidder does not get screwed into paying more than he rightfully should. This is why I always snipe what I want to avoid this improper behavior. Good luck to the honest bidder who actually wants this great item! |
Post# 272798 , Reply# 28   3/29/2008 at 10:55 (5,870 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 272799 , Reply# 29   3/29/2008 at 11:04 (5,870 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)   |   | |
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Post# 272809 , Reply# 30   3/29/2008 at 11:38 (5,870 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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Hi Rich, Ah Gee, thanks. A Maytag Combo sure would make a nice birthday gift! Hint, hint! HA, just kidding. Where in the world would I put it? |
Post# 272811 , Reply# 31   3/29/2008 at 11:45 (5,870 days old) by hooverwheelaway ()   |   | |
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There's always room for one more! :-) |
Post# 272816 , Reply# 32   3/29/2008 at 12:30 (5,870 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)   |   | |
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Post# 272872 , Reply# 33   3/29/2008 at 17:21 (5,869 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 273039 , Reply# 35   3/30/2008 at 22:46 (5,868 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)   |   | |
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Post# 273041 , Reply# 36   3/30/2008 at 23:06 (5,868 days old) by supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)   |   | |
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Post# 273042 , Reply# 37   3/30/2008 at 23:09 (5,868 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)   |   | |
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Post# 273053 , Reply# 38   3/31/2008 at 00:52 (5,868 days old) by mattl (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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Glad to see it went to a club member! |
Post# 273060 , Reply# 39   3/31/2008 at 05:13 (5,868 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)   |   | |
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Congratulations Kim. I know you will have a real interesting addition to your already fine collection of Combo's. |
Post# 273083 , Reply# 41   3/31/2008 at 08:13 (5,868 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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The seller does not know a bidder's maximum bid at any point during or after the auction - that is a myth. The only exceptions would be if a bidder cancels a bid placed (this happens most often when a curious moron simply wants to know the reserve price set by the seller) and if the seller is in cahoots with someone who is placing a shill bid to raise the auction ending price. At the end of an auction, the seller only sees the maximum amount the bidder had to win the auction. If the ending price of the auction was $1215.00, the seller has no idea that the bidder may have entered any price above that amount, only what it took to win the auction. There may be a way for the seller to see the bid amount if they are cancelling a bid placed by someone, I've never had that happen in one of my auctions. I haven't experienced the shill bidding, that I know of, as a buyer but have had someone curious about the reserve and cancel a bid. Immediately reported to ebay, they keep track of a bidder's activity in such cases in the future. I think you're only allowed to cancel bids a very few times before you're kicked to the ebay curb.
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Post# 273110 , Reply# 42   3/31/2008 at 12:11 (5,868 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Ebay has made many changes to their systems, including the ability to retract bids. One can no longer simply retract a bid willy-nilly, so placing a bid to suff out the reserve, then canceling that bid is no longer on, in most cases. Also, yes as Ganksy says, sellers hever have nor never will see a buyer's highest bid, they only know what the highest winning bid was, and now because of changes to eBay's system, bidding activity in terms of who bid what. L. |
Post# 273133 , Reply# 44   3/31/2008 at 16:07 (5,867 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 273142 , Reply# 45   3/31/2008 at 17:22 (5,867 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)   |   | |
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Post# 273161 , Reply# 46   3/31/2008 at 18:38 (5,867 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 273162 , Reply# 47   3/31/2008 at 18:40 (5,867 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 273166 , Reply# 48   3/31/2008 at 19:00 (5,867 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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It's funny, I asked the seller for additional pictures of the machine and got none - if you have more, please post them. I'm sure everyone would like to see them. The seller did tell me that there were no more parts around in the shop for this combo, which is the usual response I've found from most Maytag dealers... The seal doesn't look too bad and the overall condition looked to be pretty nice - - but remember, Maytag didn't have a recall/buyback on these because of problematic paint ;-) |
Post# 273171 , Reply# 49   3/31/2008 at 19:56 (5,867 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 273173 , Reply# 50   3/31/2008 at 20:12 (5,867 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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Hi Kim ! Hooray for a wonderful find........ If you need any copies of these let me know.......... |
Post# 273174 , Reply# 51   3/31/2008 at 20:13 (5,867 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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Service manual.....very extensive with lots of photos and diagrams........ |
Post# 273175 , Reply# 52   3/31/2008 at 20:13 (5,867 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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More service manual........ |
Post# 273176 , Reply# 53   3/31/2008 at 20:14 (5,867 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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Owners operating manual........ |
Post# 273177 , Reply# 54   3/31/2008 at 20:15 (5,867 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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More owners manual....... |
Post# 273178 , Reply# 55   3/31/2008 at 20:15 (5,867 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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Another page........ |
Post# 273179 , Reply# 56   3/31/2008 at 20:16 (5,867 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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Very interesting Advertising Wheel, with Maytag Combo features! |
Post# 273180 , Reply# 57   3/31/2008 at 20:17 (5,867 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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Flip side of the wheel, with conventional top loading Maytag washers......... |
Post# 273193 , Reply# 58   3/31/2008 at 21:13 (5,867 days old) by washendry (pinconning,mich)   |   | |
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Thanks for the offer Filter Flo, I'll email you about the Great selection of Maytag Combo material, Thanks again, everyone Kim |
Post# 273483 , Reply# 60   4/2/2008 at 13:49 (5,866 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)   |   | |
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Post# 273510 , Reply# 61   4/2/2008 at 17:13 (5,865 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)   |   | |
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Post# 273596 , Reply# 62   4/3/2008 at 13:26 (5,865 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)   |   | |
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Post# 273790 , Reply# 63   4/4/2008 at 16:29 (5,863 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)   |   | |
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Post# 273793 , Reply# 64   4/4/2008 at 16:59 (5,863 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 273850 , Reply# 65   4/5/2008 at 01:20 (5,863 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)   |   | |
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