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Post# 274729   4/11/2008 at 17:40 (5,829 days old) by destroyer ()        

3rd time now on my electrolux EWF12108 the recirculation pump has got jammed with fluff or something else trivial and by the end of the wash -- it has burnt out.

Now I do love watching the washing machine go round, but I can't supervise it all day incase something jams the silly pump (first time a seed clogged it all up...).

At least make the pump a bit more resistant to items, or put in a simple cut out device if no flow has been detected.

What a silly design!





Post# 274793 , Reply# 1   4/12/2008 at 04:43 (5,829 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

I thought that pump was connected to the lintfilter zo nothing could block it!

Post# 274794 , Reply# 2   4/12/2008 at 04:45 (5,829 days old) by mrx ()        

We'd a Jet system in the early 90s, FJ1033. It was a nice washer but the recirculation pump died after a couple of years too. Then the replacement pump died! It was replaced under warranty, but we never bought a zanussi again as a result.

In general I think using pumps to recirculate the water is unnecessary and overly complex. Other machines, including Miele, Hotpoint/Ariston, Bosch, etc etc all do excellent washes by simply tumbling or scooping the water with the paddles. It seems just as effective.

The recirculation pumps in the Zanussi (Electrolux) seem pretty flimsy too. The one in our machine was just like a slightly bigger version of the drain pump!

Not entirely convinced about Jet System technology, I think it was just one of those cool 80s marketing gimics to sell more Zanussi products. After all they did call themselves "the appliance of science" so they had to do something "high tech"


Post# 274795 , Reply# 3   4/12/2008 at 06:52 (5,829 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

My AEG LAVAMAT 72640 has a water jet in it, it has been fine for 5 and half years. Only thing is that it has always been a bit noisy in use, it has never clogged.

I thought the design was universal across the AEG Zanussi Electrolux range.


Post# 274804 , Reply# 4   4/12/2008 at 07:54 (5,829 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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I`ve had an AEG with a water jet before I got my Miele and I hated it. Thanks to many other repairs I could return it to the dealer.
The recirculation pump never clogged but when I used powders it always sprayed undissolved powder onto the wash in the first rinse.
The other thing I didn`t like was the imagination what might happen to the water remaining in the pump or sump if I don`t wash every day and even I have to use low temps every now and then.
Ok someone could argue a dishwasher is just about the same. But usually a dishwasher heats to a sanitizing temperature even in an Eco50° programe.
I think in an American toploader a recirculation pump might be justified to remove lint, but in a frontloader I find them absolutely unnecessary and unsanitary.


Post# 274810 , Reply# 5   4/12/2008 at 09:11 (5,829 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        
AEG Lavamat 78800

I have an AEG myself and I love it! Itīs a great washer and I really like the recirculation pump. The Jet-System never clogged up in over 3 years and itīs running 2 cycles a day...The only contra is that it always sprays a bit water from the mainwash and the rinses in the next rinse....but all in all a great washer....still of the fact that it isnīt of high quality..
I have to say that mine washes so much better than my old AEG washer I had before the 78800 and which did not have a Jet-System....it always took much time till the washing was wet and the rinsing results werenīt good either.
Iīm very pleased with the rinsing results on my new, I think itīs more efficient than other new washing machines from Miele/Bosch and so on.




Post# 274813 , Reply# 6   4/12/2008 at 09:31 (5,828 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
LAVAMAT 7880

Yeah I agree about the mainwash water going onto the rinse. To be honest though regardless of what machine you have there will be some residue of water going back into the rinse water.

I find the AEG with water jet does a good job as it hardly uses much water but the rescirculation of water constantly onto the clothes halps drive water through the fabrics WHY SOAK WHEN CAN SHOWER so they say.

The only think I don't like is the noise the pump makes when spraying the clothes. I've posted a vid of this. As I've noted previosuly I don't like how the machine cannot handle out of balaced loads very well but apart from that its a fairly good machine. As I wondered from this post, do Electrolux change the circulation pump design for each of their brands? who knows.


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Post# 274814 , Reply# 7   4/12/2008 at 09:36 (5,828 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        
Youīre right!

I sometimes really hate the noise it does...but only sometimes...most of time itīs pretty quiet! But when itīs loud I always beat against the cabinet LOL...

Post# 274821 , Reply# 8   4/12/2008 at 10:20 (5,828 days old) by destroyer ()        

It does bring the noise of the washer up a lot, without the recirc pump the washer is very very quiet.

I'm still not convinced the recirc pump does much to be honest.

That pump is only spraying a 1.5cm wide jet of water, now when you have a large load, that is only reaching a very small amount of the clothing, and since there is water at the bottom of the drum, i'm not sure what tricking the water over it achieves.

Rinsing on the machine is poor anyway since there isnt enough water in the drum to extract a reasonable amount of detergent.

I will continue running the washer without the recirc pump working, as it seems to work fine except it is quieter.

All the plonkers needed to do was put a filter on it (as some of you suggested) and then the sily thing wouldn't jam and burn out.

Not rocket science, I am continually amazed how little or brainless testing is carried out on appliances and electronics these days..


Post# 274828 , Reply# 9   4/12/2008 at 12:02 (5,828 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Destroyer. What Electrolux should have done is use the Pump that they put on their AEG and Zanussi machines (Incase these are different) Which I doubt very much.

If Electrolux was to put a lint filter I can imagine this needing maintenance every so often because of lint and other items stapping and therefore preventing water flow. I think this was a complaint with some of the 90s Zanussi's which used a lint filter to stop items going into the pump it would mean cleaning for which in reality people don't like to do. Its odd because I have never had a problem with my AEG rescirculation pump and I can't imagine something as a seed damaging this as this would be trapped by the discharge pump cover on the front of the machine which I check every 1 to 2 years.

I believe the circulation pump does make a little difference becuase in my older Indesit machine it wouldn't 'Wet' the clothes properly for ages in the first 20 mins of the cycle whereas the AEG wets all parts very quickly even with bigger loads. The load with get saturated from where the waters enteres the drum from the top left part of the drum, the bottom of the drum and also the circulation pump on top of the glass door.

It may not be as hygeniec as others but to be honest I'm not really that bothered by that, as long as my clothes come out clean, but I get that though.


Post# 274840 , Reply# 10   4/12/2008 at 14:28 (5,828 days old) by destroyer ()        

You have a point re wetting large loads, but I am more of a "higher water level" man :-)

The first time it had blocked, the actual tube leading upto the top of the drum was blocked by a seed, and it took the engineer ages to get to it and blow the seed out, which would have been solved by a filter so it could never enter the pump in the first place. Second time the pump just packed in due to a bit of fluff in it. This time a small amount of fluff from some towels had jambed the pump impellor and burnt out within the wash cycle.


Strange thing is this machine is looked after, nothing heavily dirty of fluffy goes in it, so if it does it to me it must be doing it to other owners out there.


My old Zanussi too had a jetsystem -- no problems with that.


Post# 274855 , Reply# 11   4/12/2008 at 17:10 (5,828 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I like the jetsystem, the only flaw being it does dump suds onto the rinse.

The jet on my mums AEG has never gone wrong in the entire time we've had it.

My zanussi fj1033 jet is good as it showers through the paddles and over the rim of the drum. which is great for absorbtion.

I have to agree that it does help with getting the load wet quicker when washing bulky loads!

Darren


Post# 274866 , Reply# 12   4/12/2008 at 18:53 (5,828 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        
My Jetsystem Experience...

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... Was one of dissapointment unfortunatley, was very happy with it for a month or two because I wasnt used to the technology of it, but then I started realising that It made rinsing much harder because the jetsystem seemed to create suds because of the power of it which was a shame!

Also im not too sure if anyone else has noticed this but white laundry always seemed to come out discoloured and I believe this was due to the hot dirty water being constantly powered at the laundry through the jetsystem!

To sum up I think the Jetsystem is a good idea but needs some more thought in its design so it can give good results :)

Richard


Post# 274893 , Reply# 13   4/12/2008 at 23:04 (5,828 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        

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Read somewhere ages ago, that once front loaders begin using water levels in ratio to pounds of laundry being washed, below a certian point, some sort of forced circulation system is needed to ensure proper results.

IMHO adding yet another system is one more thing that can go wrong to a front loader. There are some large commercial front loaders that use injector water systems, but most always the hose/spray comes through the portal window on the front.


Post# 274930 , Reply# 14   4/13/2008 at 06:30 (5,828 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Don't

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the recirculating pumps make possible that slightly more efficient heating design? The water is forced through a rather small tube with the heating coil wrapped directly around it? I seem to recall that was one of the reasons for this design. Eliminates/minimizes much of the scale build up problem and permits the use of less water.

I suppose, in the end, you just have to check your laundry over extra thoroughly. A pain, esp. if you have grown up with the Hoovers which would forgive just about any sin.


Post# 274933 , Reply# 15   4/13/2008 at 07:50 (5,828 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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I think the first generations of recirc Zanussis had that kind of "flow through" heater for better efficiency.
But my AEG which was approximately purchased in 2002 certainly had the heater coils on the bottom of the tub just like any other washer, too. Not sure about the current situation.


Post# 274938 , Reply# 16   4/13/2008 at 08:32 (5,828 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        
My 3 years old...

AEG Lavamat 78800 has a normal heating element on the bottom of the tub too.
Not sure about the new introduced generation of AEG-washers.

My neighbours also had an AEG Lavamat (6-7 years old). Last summer they were experiencing problems with the washing and rinsing results...as they say the Jet-System had been broken....so here you see that the Jet-system is necessary on Electrolux branded washing machines coz they only use a very small amount of water.



Post# 274952 , Reply# 17   4/13/2008 at 12:19 (5,827 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Destroyer. That's real unlucky, maybe theres a problem with the machine itself, may be a part missing, I mean something like a seed should not cause the machine to stop. My AEG can handle fluff, seeds, buttons etc and these simply get trapped in the rubber seal of the machine or get trapped in the filter in the bottom right of the machine. I have to say my machine is very good with keeping items in the drum, I remeber the 1983 Servis Slimeline Electronic I grew up with, it used to swallow whole socks and cause huge problems regularly - that machine had some character lol.

Post# 274960 , Reply# 18   4/13/2008 at 14:31 (5,827 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        

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I think its more poor design than being un lucky personally, my Zanussi Jetsystem machine from 2006 suffered problems like that, small things would clog it up and make the water just trickle out of the jetsystem occasionally, or things would get stuck in the jetsystem opening in the door seal, this was the Jetsystem that wasnt around for very long, the yellow one with the 3 spray jet angle thing, or what ever they called it LOL!

Maybe that design wasnt around for very long because it wasnt very reliable?


Richard


Post# 275043 , Reply# 19   4/14/2008 at 06:58 (5,827 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Richard

But what difference would the yellow plastic on the newer ones make to stop items blocking up the system? I don't get that.

The Jetsystem we are talking about has been around for 5 years or so because I remeber AEG using this from 1998 when I was in Secondary school, this was when they updated to model range for the first time in years and years lol

That plastic part looks at though it just distrubutes the water over the clothes in a Fan like fashion and is not as strong as the ones we are talking about, I personally prefer the previous as it looks more stronger flow.

Do you know if the newer Zanussi's and AEG's do the Spin Rinses?


Post# 275049 , Reply# 20   4/14/2008 at 08:08 (5,827 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        
Do you know if the newer Zanussi's and AEG's do the

Mine does not!

Post# 275052 , Reply# 21   4/14/2008 at 08:49 (5,827 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        

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My Zanussi from 2006 didnt do spin rinses, Neither does my Cousins AEG L86810 washing machine, In fact they work roughly in the same way! Except the AEG is tottaly silent and has out lasted my Zanussi LOL!


Richard


Post# 275074 , Reply# 22   4/14/2008 at 12:56 (5,826 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
LAVAMAT 78800

I'm surprised because my AEG Lavamat 72640 does the spin rinses which causes a lot of turbulance when washing quilts etc. But mine is 5 years old.

I notice when the spin rinses take place the rinse cycle is shorter when it doesn't do spin rinses the rinse cycle takes longer.


Post# 275076 , Reply# 23   4/14/2008 at 13:06 (5,826 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
samsungfl

Again I'm surprised I thought that all Zanussi's with the Jetsystem did the Spin Rinse.

You are correct though the the AEG and Zanussi work in a similar way. Well they share most of the same components.

I like the Jet on my AEG and it seems it works in way that if the machine manages to get the 3 spins done in the rinse, the rinse cycle shortens, if the machine doesn't do its spin rinses (when a small load is in the machine) the machine takes longer to rinse the clothes. The machine always speeds up the drum speed halfway through the rinse to almost distribution speed when tumbling on last stage when it pumps out the water.

The spin rinse only works on very absorbant loads and most full loads unless the fabrics are not very absorbant. I tested this out with machine with no clothes in and opened the black plastic pipe (on front of machine) and let the water drain out whilst machine was rinsing, this activated the spin rinse to take place, sit is activated with the Water pressure switch. Dunno if this works with Fuzzy logic, if the machine even has Fuzzy Logic as the brochure says. Update was just a marketing gimmick as AEG does not seem to provide any updates on its washing machines.


Post# 275079 , Reply# 24   4/14/2008 at 13:38 (5,826 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        
AEG03

Iīm really sure about that, it does not do spin rinses!
Mine is maybe of an other era, with the square silver knobs, out of the same era the washer on the pic above is.


Post# 275087 , Reply# 25   4/14/2008 at 15:15 (5,826 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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AEG03,
I too wanted to know weather new ones did the spin-rinse like our machines, but alas as far as i'm aware, they don't. Hopefully they replaced this with some more water!

Im lookin to exchange my hotpoint for another zanussi or the new stainless steel aeg washer in the not so distant future!

Darren


Post# 275092 , Reply# 26   4/14/2008 at 16:11 (5,826 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

I remember the first generation Jetsystem washers from 1988-1990 with the old classic Zanussi drum. These used to shower through the paddles which of course were the old metal ones.

My grandma had the TOL Electrolux WD3000T washer dryer (with the secondary opaque door plastic) which incorporated this and was one of the most fun machines to watch! During the main wash the machine would carry out 400rpm spin bursts every couple of minutes.

Unfortunately she moved house a few years ago and left this machine behind. It was built like a tank so i'm hoping it's still in use today!

I believe the very early FJ1011, FJ1013? Zanussi Jetsystem washers incorporated the same spins during the wash and was curious as to whether anyone else remembers them.

Tom.



Post# 275176 , Reply# 27   4/15/2008 at 01:23 (5,826 days old) by jwilson00 ()        
Stainless steel AEG

Is this going to be the new stainless steel AEG?!?!?!??!?!?
The UK seems to be the only one without this new style of AEG
washers.


Post# 275178 , Reply# 28   4/15/2008 at 03:03 (5,826 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Jay!
We are getting these style machines! & I am considering getting the stainless model!!!!!!!!!

Darren


Post# 275192 , Reply# 29   4/15/2008 at 06:11 (5,826 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Tom

I remembr those machines that did the spin burts during the wash, they were good. I wonder my the AEG I have does not do this - Only spin busts in the rinse. I notice my machine alternates between slow and medium rotations during the wash, kind weired, it starts medium then slows slighty after 4seconds then speeds up again after 4 seceonds, slows after 4 secs and medium again then stops and goes the other way, its more noticable when washing quilts.

I like the new Stainless steel AEG's but I will not be buying AEG's again as they are no longer German produced, the next will be a Miele in my household. I do not feel that the AEG is any better then Zanussi as its basically the same machine with different exterior styling. Same for Bosch they no longer ooze quality like they did years ago.


Post# 275194 , Reply# 30   4/15/2008 at 06:14 (5,826 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
Newwave

The vid I've ssen of ur AEG works exactly like mine. I wonder if the newer machine that no longer do spin rinses have been replaced with more water also. I notice though that the AEG also has its paddles which scoop water to top of the drum and shower it back down, so we benefit from the power jet and the paddles - For the paddles to scoop anything there has to be a good amount of water in the machine though.

It seems our models use the bare minnimum which I like cos I don't like a lot of water to be used.


Post# 275198 , Reply# 31   4/15/2008 at 06:55 (5,826 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        
AEG03

I'm glad someone remembers them! I was starting to wonder if i'd been imagining it. It's such a shame Electrolux didn't stick with the solid steel tubs from the Zanussi days. The build quality back then could certainly rival any German built machine.

When the split tub Zanussis with the plastic drum paddles came in about 1991 I never felt the machines were as stable or solid after that. I knew someone with a split tub WDJ1285 that would actually walk round the floor on spin. The old design FL1012 and 'Z' Series machines never did that!

I'm currently running a 95 degree wash on my super quiet Z9191T. 25 years old can't be bad!

Tom.


Post# 275282 , Reply# 32   4/15/2008 at 15:56 (5,825 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Tom,
My fj1033 i've just aquirred is in our tin shed outside on ceramic tiles, it doesn't shift at all on spin, i was expectin a bit of a difference from my solid drum zanussi w/d.

Ahh im not insane then, i thought those zanussis span in the wash! Was it really every few minutes? I heard a rumour this only happened when the heavy soil button was pressed?

Darren


Post# 275292 , Reply# 33   4/15/2008 at 16:26 (5,825 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Recirc. pumps...

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Maytag's FL washers (MAH4000 series) had a recirculation pump due to the liquid soap settling in the sump while sitting in delay start. The idea was to get that soap up out of the sump and back into the load when the unit started washing.

Post# 275293 , Reply# 34   4/15/2008 at 16:32 (5,825 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Darren,
I've only seen the Electrolux WD3000T spin in the wash, there was no heavy soil button on this. You selected 'B' main wash on the dial and then selected the temperature on the other dial which also switched the machine on! If 'C' quick wash wash chosen there were no spins during the wash.

If i remember correctly the tumbling was something like this:
CW - CW - AntiCW - AntiCW - CW - CW - AntiCW - *AntiCW Spin* -CW - CW....
... and so on throughout the main wash. So it was every couple minutes or so.

Also worth noting that on Delicates and Woollens there was no Jetsystem at all on those cycles. At the end of the final rinse the machine would fill to just above the middle of the glass then stop. You had to manually move the timer to spin.

With regard to the WDJ1285, it had some programmer trouble where the machine would burst into spin before the water drained out and this was the main cause of the unbalancing!

Tom



Post# 275297 , Reply# 35   4/15/2008 at 16:41 (5,825 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Here is the manual for the WD3000T:
www.serviceforce.co.uk/pdfs/U0314...

If anyone ever comes across one of these models I'd gladly pay over the odds for it. A truly amazing piece of machinery!

Tom


Post# 275386 , Reply# 36   4/16/2008 at 03:09 (5,825 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Tom,
I love those opaque door electrolux machines! i too would love one! i love zanussi and electrolux stuff! anyone want a hotpoint wt960g while i'm at it? lol.

Darren


Post# 275460 , Reply# 37   4/16/2008 at 14:24 (5,824 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        

My Granparents had an Electrolux WH1025 and "matching" dishwasher BW320. I loved those machines! I did realise when i was small that they were the same as Zanussi washing machines as my auntie had a WD9091i

The dishwasher was really quiet too. Always smelt of lemons haha

I would also love to have one of the black door machines again!!

David

Heres a picture i found in Robs collection :-)


Post# 275461 , Reply# 38   4/16/2008 at 14:33 (5,824 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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I also like the Blackdoor E.luxes. My aunt has washer WH2900 and matching dryer WT252, both with black door.

Post# 275468 , Reply# 39   4/16/2008 at 15:11 (5,824 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Heres one out of my elux file, i found this on ebay. if only the damn thing was closer!

Darren


Post# 275469 , Reply# 40   4/16/2008 at 15:12 (5,824 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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timon90,
I love the video you did of your aunts machine! I would have loved to see more of it!

Darren


Post# 275482 , Reply# 41   4/16/2008 at 16:28 (5,824 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Timon90,

Am I correct in thinking the WH2900 was a Jetsystem model? I love the way the machine is switched on using the temperature dial.

The most sophisticated black door model sold in the UK was the WH2125 Jetsystem, there being no actual Zanussi equivalent! Of course the king of all black door Electroluxes was the WD3000T washer dryer.

I nearly bought a WH818, but it was a long way to fetch it and really I want one of the more advanced Jetsystem machines.

Tom


Post# 275484 , Reply# 42   4/16/2008 at 16:42 (5,824 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

On this PDF file you can see the timer chart for the WD3000T. Note where it says: "Includes Short Spin Of Maximum 400rpm Every Two Mins" in the key. I really wasn't imagining things!



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Post# 275514 , Reply# 43   4/16/2008 at 19:08 (5,824 days old) by mrx ()        
Think it inspired anything else??

I wonder if it inspired the Indesit Moon designers ?

My grandmother had the machine pictured in the post above (Black door Electrolux) it lasted years!
Were they all JetSystem ?


Post# 275518 , Reply# 44   4/16/2008 at 19:10 (5,824 days old) by mrx ()        

I think you pulled out the programme selection knob to start them, not the temp knob.

Many washers in the 1970s / 80s used that method of starting.


Post# 275583 , Reply# 45   4/17/2008 at 01:29 (5,824 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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I had a WH3000T before, but the timer was bad, and I throwed the machine away. I've realized now that I should have saved the motor from that, and used this on the WH2900. The bearings in the WH2900motor is making some noise, and is not to get as a sparepart anymore.

Post# 275590 , Reply# 46   4/17/2008 at 02:18 (5,824 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Spin Washing

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When the JetSystem first appeared it was quite a revolution, no other manufacturer could reduce the consumption of water to the same level at the time....

The Spin Wash was introduced following a lot of research about Laundry Methods and best practice for best results....one of the key elements for introducing it was the reliability and effect of spinning soapy water out of clothes like TwinTubs etc....

Think about it four mins of washtime, then spin all that hot soapy water out of the clothes!!!, that action probably moved any stains etc that the previous washtime did not...

I do like the AEG with Directa Jet, never had any complaints about them blocking though!!!as with anything a lot of components are just reduced down in cost now until they fail and are thrown/replaced...



Post# 275602 , Reply# 47   4/17/2008 at 05:35 (5,824 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

mrx

On most of the WH series you did indeed pull the programmer knob out to start the machine. However, on the WH2125 and the WD3000T (including Timons WH2900 which was never available here) you *turned* the temperature dial clockwise from '0' to your selected temperature to switch the machine on.


Post# 275604 , Reply# 48   4/17/2008 at 05:40 (5,824 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        
I forgot to mention...

Only the high end models had Jetsystem (if it did spins in the wash it would have Jetsystem), the basic models such as the WH818 had an induction motor and very similar timer to my Z9191T.

Tom


Post# 275677 , Reply# 49   4/17/2008 at 13:21 (5,823 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
Pic of my 2002 AEG Lavamat 72640 with Spin Rinse Water Jet

Not got the nice LOCD as the above but its a pretty reliable machine.

Post# 275678 , Reply# 50   4/17/2008 at 13:23 (5,823 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
The Jet during the wash

Driving water and detergent through the load with minimmum amount of water.

Post# 275679 , Reply# 51   4/17/2008 at 13:25 (5,823 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
Rinse

clothes pinned to drum in first stage of rinse with jet

Post# 276005 , Reply# 52   4/19/2008 at 19:52 (5,821 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

I had an AEG 86741, didn't have any problems at all with the jet! Always was nice and thick and soaked the load down pretty well. Although the 86741 wasn't that water stingy, always used a decent level as well as the recirculation pump, lowest level was where water was in the door seal touching the rim of the drum. My grandparents have the machine now and it's still running strong jet intact and everything, as far as I was aware the same pump is used for recirculating the water as is draining the water out so nothing should really become stuck in the jet as water goes through the pump filter first.

Jon


Post# 276044 , Reply# 53   4/20/2008 at 06:10 (5,821 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        
lavamat jon

That's true its the same pump that drains out the water that pumps the water through the drum, so it is constantly in use. Mine has never been a problem, just is a bit on noisy side when the jet is on.

Hair clips, coins are normally held in the door seal but if any makes into the drian pump it is captured by the filter.


Post# 276635 , Reply# 54   4/24/2008 at 19:23 (5,816 days old) by platinum6 ()        

I love those Zanussi/AEG/Electrolux Jetsystem washing machines, I think they're just great! I reckon Zanussi was ahead of it's game when it first came out and having a great way of using less water, energy and detergent. It's a good thing it caught on with other brands lol!

The first time I observed a Jetsystem in action was at my old school, they had a late 1998 WJS1397W Washer-Dryer in a medium-sized kitchen and I found it really good fun to watch.

The Jetsystem gave the effect that it was constantly filling with water when it wasn't. But of course, the recirculation pump was doing the work.

I've noticed that it got quite sudsy during the wash too, Biological Ariel Powder was the only thing used in it and the water from the recirculation pump was made responsible for this and often caused sudslocks on wash-spins lol! But it managed to clear out the suds during the rinsing.

In fact it's so good, I wouldn't mind owing one of these myself! They're not all bad you know, especially the washing action on early models. I'd love to see that in action one day!

Long the Jetsystem may continue for many years to come!

Here's a pic of the machine, it's not the best quality pic but at least it was a good machine.

You know what, I think I'm slowly falling in love with Lavamat Jon on here, he's one of the nicest people I've ever met online and on here of course!

Could this be love on the Washer Forum? Lets hope so lol!




Post# 276752 , Reply# 55   4/25/2008 at 15:40 (5,815 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Wash-spins...

...Funny you should say that, as my Grandfather had a Zanussi machine from 1999, and I was almost certain that it did that.

However, my Zanussi IZ16 from 2001 does not. It does rinse-spins instead.

I wonder if they discovered a problem with wash-spins?

As for sudslock, I always got the impression (and still do) that the laundry detergents were far too foamy. Shouldn't they be as non-foamy as dishwasher detergent? Maybe simple washing soda is the answer.


Post# 276757 , Reply# 56   4/25/2008 at 16:02 (5,815 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Foamy Jet Wash


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