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Thread Number: 16694
Hoover Vision - Strange Noises! :S |
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| Post# 275965 4/19/2008 at 13:54 (5,843 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
Hey guys, just wondering if any of you could put your knowledge of washers to the test and work out what is causing my Hoover to make very strange grating kind of sounds, usually after a 1600rpm spin. Is this normal of Hoover washers or is something at fault again :(? Any suggestions would be great! ::D - Video below is the noise it has been making! Thanks Richard CLICK HERE TO GO TO samsungfl's LINK | ||
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| Post# 275986 , Reply# 2 4/19/2008 at 16:02 (5,843 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Yeah I agree, because if you've been reading this forum latley, this is the second motor it has had already. I'm going to upload another video of it shortly, today it sounds even worse! :( Its so strange because throughout the wash and interim spins it always sounds fine - Its mostly at the end of the cycle it starts doing that awful noise, and it dosnt wear off until the machine has started another cycle and has been washing for 5minutes for example, very strange and something im very unhappy with. Richard | ||
| Post# 275987 , Reply# 3 4/19/2008 at 16:13 (5,843 days old) by mrx () | ||
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It sounds a bit odd alright. It should rotate smoothly, I would have assumed anyway. It sounds more like a bearing problem either the drum or the motor bearings! | ||
| Post# 275988 , Reply# 4 4/19/2008 at 16:24 (5,843 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Heres the link to the new video :) Any of you guys out there have a clue whats happened to it :S! Any suggestions are greatly appreciated Im at my wits end with it ! Richard :) CLICK HERE TO GO TO samsungfl's LINK | ||
| Post# 275993 , Reply# 6 4/19/2008 at 17:44 (5,843 days old) by mrx () | ||
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From your second video I'd definitely think you've got a bearing problem!!! Pretty bad for a new machine. Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble with it! Give 'em hell on the phone!!!! | ||
| Post# 275994 , Reply# 7 4/19/2008 at 18:01 (5,843 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Yeah I agree with you aego3, its definatley something to do with the motor because this noise is exactly the same as the noise the old one used to make after, only that one would struggle to speed up e.t.c, however when the new motor was installed this noise stopped, for only a few cycles id like to point out though, then it began doing it again however this week its been doing it more frequently, before it could manage to do a full 1600 spin and sound totally fine at the end, now it just sounds awful!! Very strange!! I think im going to give it a few weeks or so to see if it will wear of, however if not i'll definatley be giving Hoover yet again another ring! Like I was saying to a friend earlier, its such a great machine and I wouldnt want to part with it, but its such a big shame that the motor in my case just dosnt seem to be able to handle the vast size of the drum, or a 1600 spin from the looks of things! Thanks for your suggestions so far guys!! Anymore would also be a great help! Many thanks Richard :) | ||
| Post# 276041 , Reply# 10 4/20/2008 at 04:02 (5,842 days old) by zodawash (Lincolnshire,United Kingdom) | ||
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Richard my advise is go to your local stream and bash your washing on a rock. Less chance of something going wrong with your record of machines lol. I'd ignore the noise it may go away as i've had weird noises from motors like that b4. Can't be sure wat it is but as you've had a new motor in i'd guess its that and i've had similar noise on a new Ariston machine which did it after a 1600 spin sometimes but vanished after a few weeks use. Steven | ||
| Post# 276049 , Reply# 12 4/20/2008 at 07:19 (5,842 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Yeah I agree, I will give it a chance to see if it will go but if it dosnt, and starts struggling to tumble and/or spin I'll be on the phone to Hoover again, their customer service is very good I must say and they can usually get someone to come within two days max which I didnt think was bad, this is usually if I book the repair online though! I would agree with you aeg03 about it not being noticeable to the average user, however my mother has even noticed how awful it can sound after a 1600 spin, which makes me wonder quite alot! Somehow I think I'll be having a few more motors yet of Hoover before we get a new machine, I wouldnt want to get rid of it because despite the motor trouble it is a perfect machine, I do like the way it works, but once its a year or so old, I'm going to sell it and buy a Miele, because theyse days to be honest I dont trust any other machines, and Ive had a fair few now! Since we got rid of the Bendix machine of the early 80's in 98, no machine has lasted as a full year without trouble! the Bosch, Samsung, Zanussi and now the Hoover have all gone faulty in a short time which I do find quite dis heartening! Thanks for your comments and suggestions guys, keep em coming! Richard | ||
| Post# 276055 , Reply# 14 4/20/2008 at 07:55 (5,842 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Thing is though, I wouldnt really want to change machines just yet personally cos like I say despite the motor problem its a great machine! I just cant work out whether its supposed to make that noise on occasion or not LOL! Ive just put it on a Colourfast 60c wash with some whites and within 5minutes of the cycle starting, that awful noise got quieter and quieter and now it sounds just as it should again! Thats what is so weird about it LOL!! Richard :) | ||
| Post# 276057 , Reply# 15 4/20/2008 at 08:16 (5,842 days old) by mrx () | ||
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could it be the brushes ? | ||
| Post# 276060 , Reply# 16 4/20/2008 at 08:47 (5,842 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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| Post# 276074 , Reply# 17 4/20/2008 at 10:18 (5,842 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys! Just been doing some laundry this afternoon and it sounds tottaly great now!!! When you turn the drum by hand now it makes you think the belt has come off or something because the sound of the motor is so minimal!!! I think I'm going to stop worrying about it now when/if it does the noise it was doing yesterday! Because if it can sound as good as it does now, there cant be anything drastically wrong with it! I just get too panicy these days LOL! Thanks for your help guys its always very much appreciated! I'll post another video up later of how its sounding to do a comparision with yesterdays Video LOL :D:D Thanks Again! Richard 
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| Post# 276075 , Reply# 18 4/20/2008 at 10:20 (5,842 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Paddles Showering | ||
| Post# 276078 , Reply# 19 4/20/2008 at 11:07 (5,842 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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| Post# 276558 , Reply# 20 4/24/2008 at 05:30 (5,838 days old) by timon90 (Norway) | ||
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| Post# 276563 , Reply# 21 4/24/2008 at 06:27 (5,838 days old) by mrx () | ||
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Are you using a P&G powder like Ariel by any chance? I find they over-foam a lot! Persil LiquiGel (not small and mighty) is also insanely foamy! | ||
| Post# 276591 , Reply# 22 4/24/2008 at 12:32 (5,838 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Hiya! timon09, I didnt use too much detergent it just got quite sudsy after a while, because the drum dosnt stop turning much during the cotton cycles that can happen sometimes, also it was a hot wash :) mrx - Yeah funny you should ask that, I used some persil liquigel in the prewash of that cycle which got quite sudsy, maybe that mixed with the powder made it get so sudsy LOL Everything rinsed well though because once the cooldown stage started all the suds went so quickly LOL!! So there was no sudslocking either :) Hope this helps! Richard | ||
| Post# 276700 , Reply# 23 4/25/2008 at 07:24 (5,837 days old) by timon90 (Norway) | ||
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Here's a pic of my Asko AM60Excellence, on a 95* wash(yes the temp was reached.) Almost no foam, and thats good, cause I dont like too much foam, and if it's much foam, the clothes dosent hit the drum "hard" enough to get the clothes as clean as possible...It's the same if the machine uses too much water... Like a American TL, I cant really understand how it cleans the clothes at all. Theyr'e almost just "dipped" in water, and splashed a bit around in lukewarm water and foam. YAY for less water, less detergent, higher temps, and a bit smaller loads = CLEAN clothes! :-) 
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| Post# 276762 , Reply# 25 4/25/2008 at 16:21 (5,837 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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That's true agitation is the best. Water only suspends the clothes within it. That's why I believe my AEG with water jet provides a little agititation which helps shift some of the stains using very little water. Probably the same with the Spin Rinses, provides agaitation in the rinse also. | ||
| Post# 276767 , Reply# 26 4/25/2008 at 17:13 (5,837 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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I agree yeah, I'm one who likes "proof" when it comes to washing machines in terms of agitation and waterlevels, which is one of the reasons at the time why I didnt like the Zanussi I had, I found on Cotton cycles that the pauses in between tumbles where far to long and inappropriate for cottons and the rinse levels levels also proved terrible for me because unless the extra quick button was selected, sometimes the water levels during the rinse could drop to being underneath the holes in the drum! So just enough water in for the Jetsystem to work which proved very poor results I found which was a shame because I thought the Jetsystem might compensate : However on the Hoover Vision the drum on cotton cycles dosnt stop tumbling much during the wash (just enough time for it to stop swinging in between tumbles) throughout the cycle which works amazingly well in comparision to other washers Ive had in the past :) Also, for rinsing I prefer a slower tumble action with more water, as to not whip any extra foam up in the rinse, which defeats the object of trying to rinse clothes I find, Personally I think spining is more suited to the wash, rather than the rinse - but hey, they are both equally as fun to watch LOL! Richard | ||
| Post# 276883 , Reply# 28 4/26/2008 at 10:35 (5,836 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Yeah I also thought it was strange that my Zanussi didnt change the tumbling action, I thought it would be simular to my cousins AEG but it wasnt tottaly diffrent and wasnt really enough to do a good job for some clothing :( From observation Zanussi seemed to be a somewhat "dumbed down" version of AEG's when it comes to wash cycles e.t.c, Because my Cousins L786810 machine is quite complex and changes the tumbling speed like yours aeg03, but the zanussi's dont :( Personally Im quite glad my Hoover Vision dosnt have a water jet, I think my experience with them has put me off them to be honest! Richard | ||
| Post# 276944 , Reply# 30 4/26/2008 at 14:33 (5,836 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Yeah its a great shame AEG arent made in Germany anymore, I hope their standards dont start to slip like Zanussi's have dramatically in my case! I too think its strange that they have the same control board but do completley diffrent things LOL! I was watching a video of an AEG not so long ago and the Control Board/PCB was making exactly the same sounds as my Zanussi one used to LOL! Amazing how they can be adapted to suit diffrent washers isnt it!? Richard | ||
| Post# 276954 , Reply# 32 4/26/2008 at 16:19 (5,836 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Yeah thats really strange, from the way mine jumped around I thought it was the opposite where the suspension legs were concerned LOL! Though I read somewhere, not too sure if it was on here or not that AEG's have been being made in Italy, but the parts in Germany for years so I suppose it was a sign really that they were going to end up being made fully in Italy which is a shame! I always liked it when AEG's king of stood out of the crowd from Zanussi's, but now you can see so many simularities in them from how they look, and now even how they work!" :( For example my Cousins AEG, which is almost a TOL model, has the weight sensor on display e.t.c has the exact same spin sequence as my Zanussi! Richard | ||
| Post# 276962 , Reply# 34 4/26/2008 at 18:07 (5,836 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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My Zanussi never did anything like that LOL! AEG's have always seemed to me more complex like that! My Zanussi was very basic, didnt change anything throughout the cycle regardless of the load size or anything! So for example on a full load 6kg load of towels, for the rinse again for example, it would fill without tumbling to the bottom rim of the drum, then start tumbling - and of course all the water would be absorbed and the machine wouldnt re-fill, like I say the water level would drop below the holes in the drum so there was only enough water in there to run the pump! Quite appauling I think! Aeg's always seem very diffrent towards things like this and do it properly! Because Im all for saving water, but when theres actually no water in the drum and a Jetsystem spraying out soapy water over the clothes during rinse, it kind of turns you "anti jetsystem" LOL! Hope this helps! Richard | ||
| Post# 277303 , Reply# 37 4/28/2008 at 15:44 (5,834 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Thats strange about your AEG filling up through the fabric conditioner dispenser everytime it fills! I always think its quite poor that they only re-fill with more water if the Jetsystem is struggling, because that means there is literally no water left in the machine, which is why I'd never go for another Zanussi, or AEG because I think theyve changed too much! Rolls Rapide - yeah thats an intresting concept, to add a small amount of softener to each rinse! I'd imagine it to be quite effective as well as the smallest amount of it supresses foam quite a bit! You never know, maybe one day a manufactuter will produce a machine with that function!! Richard | ||
| Post# 277497 , Reply# 38 4/29/2008 at 16:00 (5,833 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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Should you ever worry about your Hoover making funny noises Heres a clip of Candy machine (Guys who make Hoover) this machines motor sounds real rough but this is the kind of noise my old Servis used to make. Awful. CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeg03's LINK | ||
| Post# 277505 , Reply# 39 4/29/2008 at 16:34 (5,833 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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That one sounds so terrible! I'd definatley get a replacement if mine ever sounded like that!!! It sounds like a police car siren when it goes up to distribution speed LOL! My Bosch Maxx sometimes used to go like that! By the way, I always thought it was the other way round, that Hoover make Candy, not that it botheres me either way I just went on what the engineer said that its Hoover Candy, not Candy Hoover?! Also I may as well update you on how the Hoover Vision is doing! :D, - I must say its been amazing latley, the motor on it never whines anymore unless its going at about 300rpm or higher and even then its fairy low pitched so im quite happy! :D:D Hasnt missed a beat considering the usage its been getting hehe :D Richard | ||
| Post# 277668 , Reply# 41 4/30/2008 at 14:09 (5,832 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Cool thats a bit of good information, I didnt know that I just thought it was the other way because of the name! Just to inform you though the Hoover VisionHD's are a fair bit diffrent to the Candy Granado's, after having used one a short while back theres quite alot of diffrences on them, so its not just a case that my machines a Granado with a Hoover badge on LOL :)!!! Richard | ||
| Post# 277671 , Reply# 42 4/30/2008 at 15:11 (5,832 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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Yes but the parts are near identical, have you taken a look inside the machine. These are very similar machines and your machine is a Candy design. True Hoover disappeared years ago. | ||
| Post# 277673 , Reply# 43 4/30/2008 at 15:12 (5,832 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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Take a look at this review mentions about Hoover machine having Candy machine. By a washing macvine repair engineer. CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeg03's LINK | ||
| Post# 277676 , Reply# 44 4/30/2008 at 15:20 (5,832 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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Ive only seen the inside of my machine, which was in fact quite suprising! But from what they sound like you wouldnt think there simular machines, made from simular parts if you know what I mean. I agree yeah true Hoover went years ago but to say they are basically candy machines is a tad careless I think... Fair enough I agree they are Candys designs but they have been adapted and changed, therefore making the Candys diffrent from the Hoovers and vise vera LOL! Simular to how AEG and Zanussi are. The Candy machine i used sounded quite simular to the Candy in the video below, but the tone of it was slightly lower LOL CLICK HERE TO GO TO samsungfl's LINK | ||
| Post# 277677 , Reply# 45 4/30/2008 at 15:21 (5,832 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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Can u post a pic of the machine inside please? How long does ur machine take to unlock its door? | ||
| Post# 277678 , Reply# 46 4/30/2008 at 15:25 (5,832 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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| Post# 277679 , Reply# 47 4/30/2008 at 15:28 (5,832 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK) | ||
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Ok then. I will also post a pic of my AEG Lavamt when I get to inside of it thou its very similar to the Zanussi anyway. | ||
| Post# 277681 , Reply# 48 4/30/2008 at 15:32 (5,832 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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| Post# 278105 , Reply# 49 5/3/2008 at 14:41 (5,829 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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| Post# 278148 , Reply# 50 5/3/2008 at 20:34 (5,829 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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| Post# 278149 , Reply# 51 5/3/2008 at 20:35 (5,829 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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