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Thread Number: 16766
Moms New Kenmore/Wp Powerclean is POWERFUL |
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| Post# 276823 4/25/2008 at 22:42 (5,838 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
I have never used a Whirlpool powerclean before.We have always had Maytags/G.e. well after it died I talked Mom into a Kenmore/WP Standard tub dishwasher with that P/C wash system.I was Floored at the Power of this washer that dishwasher reminds me of the old ones.You hear dishes rattling and it even blew over a glass cup on the bottom rack.This is one VERY powerful dishwasher I did a Bob load with burnt on everything I just shook the dishes in the sink and left everything on them and piled them in there and put a table spoon of Cascade in each cup and everything is Spotless.The Maytag tall tub we had was a 1/3 H.p. and so is this on but this one does out clean it with no Problem.Mom is thrilled I am still trying to get over the shock I thought all dishwashers today are for the most part a joke.Sence this is a great washer I know that Whirlpool will axe it soon.
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| Post# 276866 , Reply# 2 4/26/2008 at 09:25 (5,837 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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This is not a New design at all.They have been using this setup for YEARS they just don't put it in many models now cause it uses more water and the motor is 6 Amps and will last a long time.Whirlpool has just One they use this one on it will say Powerclean direct feed.This is VASTLY differnt than the durawash.Kenmore uses this one in one model only and the rest of there lower to middle line is Frigidare.This machine I have a feeling wont be around much longer but who knows.I will tell you this if your looking for a quite machine this is NOT it.Our has 5 cycles and sani rinse and just a plain old standard tub but a Hell of a Wash system.I did the cake test on it and there was nothing left no grit or anything.I am getting to curious so I plan on getting some plexi glass and a waterproof light just to see whats going on in there.Blowing over plastic things is one thing but glasses and bowls is another.
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| Post# 276876 , Reply# 4 4/26/2008 at 09:48 (5,837 days old) by nmaineman36 () | ||
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Oh before I forget...the motor is a full 1/3 hp on the Whirlpool PowerClean. | ||
| Post# 276952 , Reply# 5 4/26/2008 at 15:58 (5,837 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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We have hard water so I guess I will haved to up the powder in it.I by accident jammed the top spray arm I noticed when I was unloading it today.Even though the top spray was not moving it still cleaned everything.Yes it would be VERY easy to destroy this machine with a screw.The pump inlet is sloped down steep and the guard is very wide in between which I like cause I throw everything in it and dont even bother scraping out bread,beans,what ever it don't bother me.She has that warranty that if anything tears up even under normal use they will fix it.So last nite I poured most left overs in it and today everything was spotless.
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Post# 277555 , Reply# 8 4/29/2008 at 19:47 (5,834 days old) by neptunebob  (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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I got this in my email, you can enter to win a Whirlpool dishwasher - Is this the one everyone thinks is so wonderful?
CLICK HERE TO GO TO neptunebob's LINK | ||
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Post# 277577 , Reply# 9 4/29/2008 at 21:32 (5,834 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 277633 , Reply# 12 4/30/2008 at 09:05 (5,833 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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The Maytag from what I can tell is not the Power-clean wash system.From what I have seen its the lower W/P dura Wash becuase of the Towers top and bottom racks.The durawash is totaly differnt sidewinder motor that is not powerful at all and there is no disposer in them and not much of a Filter in them also.I don't know whats wrong with your dishwasher but I can tell you this the New Kenmore we have still is a Pot smasher trust me it has Fliped over glass cups,bowls and you can hear the dishes rattling in it.The Top rack flips over things also and the cake test worked also not a speck left on the dishes.The Kenmore at the store had the energy star badge on it but the one that we Picked up says nothing about being a energy saver and I have noticed that when it fills it fills with alot more water than any of the tall tubs we have had in the past.I don't think W/P will make this system much longer becuase they only use it for like one or two models and Kenmmore uses it just one of theres.Mom is very happy with the cleaning ability with this washer and Im just shocked although its not a tall tub it can outwash anything out there that is New today that is for sure.Trust me it can still smash things if you get that model you haved to becareful though The Powercleans do not have a Tower in them there direct feed all of them.The Whirlpool and the Maytags that I have seen have the Durawash and that is a VERY WEAK Motor not the 1/3H.p. 6 Amp motor this Kenmore has.
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| Post# 277661 , Reply# 13 4/30/2008 at 13:10 (5,833 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
According to this link, the 2nd to bottom particular WP based Maytag standard tub has multiple wash arms and a disposer. The machine they didn't even bother picturing is the one with the dura wash. So they have both. CLICK HERE TO GO TO johnb300m's LINK | ||
| Post# 277716 , Reply# 14 4/30/2008 at 20:47 (5,833 days old) by magic clean () | ||
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Photo of Maytag--Whirlpool standard tub unit w/power clean wash system. 
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| Post# 277862 , Reply# 15 5/1/2008 at 19:13 (5,832 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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Hey Thanks for the Pic.That is the Powerclean motor but it is like my Mamas Whirlpool quiet wash Plus but the bottom looks differnt hers dont have a filter system in it but it does clean.Moms Kenmore looks just like it save for the Top spray which is Direct Feed from the back and the small overhead rinse.I was wrong then when I saw the manual and it showed the tower on top I thought it was the Dura-wash system.I would much rather have the one that Mom has sence it is a Direct feed the top rack spray would have more power you know with that set up you will lose presure in the arms with that tower but that is impressive could you imagine a Frigidare doing that with the motor they have in there's.
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| Post# 277880 , Reply# 16 5/1/2008 at 21:21 (5,832 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
Standard Vs. Tall
In the Maytag line, anything with a standard tub(basically the two bottom of the line models) is based on the Whirlpool design. Anything with a 'tall tub' is a Maytag chassis since before the buyout. The whirlpool designed units replaced the last Maytag designed standard tubs made at the Jackson plant. They are basic models without frills and are considerably noisier than their tall tub cousins. I just went thru training on the new Whirlpool Tahoe platform with a optional steam assist model with the powerzone heads at the bottom back of the unit (GU2700XTV & GU3600XTV due out in May 08). It's a tall tub model with 3 spray arms. It uses very little water with an alternating wash arm pressure system (it alternates water pressure to the various arms so some wash while others don't at any given time)and is supposed to be quieter by 15db. The drawback of such water effiency? Try a >4< hour wash cycle and if you choose the soak and scour cycle, ADD an additional >4< hours to the cycle for a possible >8< hour cycle! There is also a removable filter to clean as it has no food chopper. I will wait until I can see one on the hoof and put it thru it's paces before passing judgement... RCD | ||
| Post# 277906 , Reply# 17 5/2/2008 at 04:26 (5,831 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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Will Whirlpool do this with there whole line?This is what Frigidare's do they switch back and forth between arms because it has a 60watt motor 0.5Amps made by Johnson.They won't sell well if they do away with the disposer setup alot of Folks like that feature myself included thats why I LOVE old K/A machines that and the build quality and I really like Moms standard tub Kenmore.So are they doing this to all of there machines Whirlpool,Maytag,Kitchenaid or just to select Maytag models?
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| Post# 277943 , Reply# 19 5/2/2008 at 11:10 (5,831 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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Thank your government...
You will see more and more of this due to rapidly tightening energy standards. The manufacturers need to use less and less water with each new model but end up running longer per cycle. Will it work as well? Who knows but we all know about the low water use toilets. Saves water with each flush but requires 2-3 hits of the trigger to flush the load... That's why I'll keep my older Maytag Intellisense d/w (MDB9962AAE). Washes like a mother****er and still does allright in water usage. RCD | ||
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Post# 277960 , Reply# 20 5/2/2008 at 13:06 (5,831 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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