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Neppy TL Moves In |
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Post# 282831   6/1/2008 at 14:44 (5,804 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 282832 , Reply# 1   6/1/2008 at 14:45 (5,804 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 282833 , Reply# 2   6/1/2008 at 14:45 (5,804 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 282834 , Reply# 3   6/1/2008 at 14:50 (5,804 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 282836 , Reply# 4   6/1/2008 at 15:19 (5,804 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 282840 , Reply# 5   6/1/2008 at 15:50 (5,804 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 282843 , Reply# 6   6/1/2008 at 16:03 (5,804 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 282844 , Reply# 7   6/1/2008 at 16:05 (5,804 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 282857 , Reply# 8   6/1/2008 at 17:30 (5,804 days old) by dirtybuck (Springfield, MO)   |   | |
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Nice bathroom. Is that a jacuzzi tub? |
Post# 282866 , Reply# 9   6/1/2008 at 18:33 (5,804 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Thanks for the video, Glenn! I say the Neptune TL, given its short production run, will be the future collector's equivalent of the Apex bouncing tub washer. It's a fascinating to watch. I like the action more than the Cabrio-style impeller machine. With five pairs of jeans in the load, did you take a trip to Tangleopolis, or didn't they come out wrapped around each other? |
Post# 282870 , Reply# 10   6/1/2008 at 18:47 (5,804 days old) by laundryshark (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)   |   | |
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For those of us who need an actual "visible" link, right click and save the file from this one below. If the file won't work for you, then try converting it through Online.Movavi.com.--Laundry Shark CLICK HERE TO GO TO laundryshark's LINK |
Post# 282873 , Reply# 12   6/1/2008 at 18:57 (5,804 days old) by laundryshark (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)   |   | |
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The word "tumbling" was actually hyperlinked. Any wonder I almost missed it? Again, many thanks.--Laundry Shark |
Post# 282878 , Reply# 13   6/1/2008 at 19:34 (5,804 days old) by funguy10 ()   |   | |
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Wow! Somehow I knew you would get that washer! Thanks for the vid with sound. Will you aim for the matching dryer? |
Post# 282886 , Reply# 14   6/1/2008 at 20:16 (5,804 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 282903 , Reply# 15   6/1/2008 at 21:10 (5,804 days old) by vintagesearch ()   |   | |
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well thats by far the only HE topload that is the closest to a FL'er hell maybe even better. thanks |
Post# 282909 , Reply# 16   6/1/2008 at 21:48 (5,804 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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It's noisier than I expected. Not exactly loud, but it has a husky rumble when tumbling, and sometimes clatters, squeaks, thuds, and vibrates during spin. The pump sounds like a Neppy frontloader. The lid cannot, of course, be open more than a crack during fill due to the water flowing through the lid liner via jets aimed at the rear edge. Even the water flow for flushing the bleach & softener cups channels through the lid, and flows into the dispensers via "shower heads" set into the corners of the lid liner. The softener dispenser doesn't flush very well. The water flow is more of a trickle than a power-flush, leaving some softener remains behind. This may be objectionable if one doesn't want *any* softener at all in the next load ... it would have to be flushed manually or wiped with a cloth or paper towel. I haven't yet tried LCB (and rarely use it anyway) ... but I suspect the bleach dispenser may have a similar glitch ... which is a more serious potential issue. Washing action seems perfectly adequate on the four loads done thus far ... although wash time is shorter than I expected at Medium soil level (default for most cycles). There are pauses in the tumbling pattern, longer pauses on less-aggressive cycles. As the video clips illustrate, the clothes are lifted pretty high up on the rollover, and shifted/rolled laterally as well. There is some tangling, but not as much as I expected, perhaps on-par with the Calypso. I've had large loads of jeans (8 pairs) come out of the F&P tangled about the same as the 5 pairs from the Neppy. The final rinse fills to about the center-hubs of the tumblers, as does the bulky cycle. The cycle can be changed on-the-fly, so a workaround for more wash-water is to start on Bulky then switch to another cycle when fill is complete. It has an interesting balance routine. Tumbling does not reverse, since reversing the motor shifts the drive to spin. For balance/distribution adjustments, it tumbles for a few seconds, which mixes the clothes and shoves them up to one side of the basket. When shifting to spin, the tumblers turn for a moment in the opposite direction which moves the load back toward the center axis of the basket. ATC cold is a balmy 85°F! There is no rinse/spin selection! Perhaps Maytag's marketing department concluded that the average consumer doesn't use rinse/spin. Running after-the-fact extra rinses would have to be done via a full cycle (Quick or Eco). Or manually by starting a wash, then canceling for spin-only. |
Post# 282935 , Reply# 17   6/2/2008 at 00:45 (5,804 days old) by brettsomers ()   |   | |
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does it ball-up sheets and blankets? does it heat? |
Post# 283044 , Reply# 18   6/2/2008 at 19:13 (5,803 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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The FAV6800aww is not equipped with a heater. The FAV9800aww IS equipped with a heater (and a touch screen). The biggest reason I've seen Neptune TL's tangle is with mis matched loads such as a sheet or two and lots of socks/undies. Then it can roll everything up into a sheet burrito. Maytag was actually advising customers to use the bulky items cycle or P/P and NOT the eco cycle due to water level/wrinkling concerns. It's almost like they went too far in using very little water. The later model TL's even had a console change to eliminate the eco button. I do like the onboard diagnostics this machine has. The tech sheet lives in the console. you can test EVERYTHING and check trouble codes that may have set in memory from the console. BTW, did you know the transmission is filled with food grade veggie oil? RCD |
Post# 283068 , Reply# 19   6/3/2008 at 01:46 (5,803 days old) by tuthill ()   |   | |
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Of the "in the lid detergent dispenser"! and congrats on your new washer! Nice "review" of it too, very interesting |
Post# 283106 , Reply# 20   6/3/2008 at 11:39 (5,802 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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That machine sure doesn't use much water. I like how the clothes creak and grown during the wash cycle. |
Post# 283463 , Reply# 21   6/5/2008 at 12:14 (5,800 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Ran a set of twin sheets. Heavy Duty cycle, medium soil level. Absolutely no tangling. Even the two pillow cases were *not* caught-up in the fitted sheet. Could be a fluke, dunno yet ... and could be a different scenario on larger sheets. The softener dispenser seems to do better if the softener is mixed with water first in a cup for proper dilution, and enough water is used to fill the dispenser to the max-line. I used the lavender Snuggle again on the sheets, and the dispenser was clear. Larger loads tumble better, of course. Ran a small load of cleaning rags/towels, and rollover was much less pronounced, although sometimes the tumblers caught the items in the right way to give them some good flippage. Used Super Wash with Soak & Stain Treat soil level, hot water, liquid Gain HE (finished out the bottle). Cleaning results, *very* good. |
Post# 283468 , Reply# 22   6/5/2008 at 13:33 (5,800 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 283471 , Reply# 23   6/5/2008 at 14:28 (5,800 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 283502 , Reply# 24   6/5/2008 at 18:52 (5,800 days old) by spiralator60 (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Glen, Is oversudsing ever an issue with the Neptune TL? Also, how long has a normal cycle been with this machine? |
Post# 283520 , Reply# 25   6/5/2008 at 21:03 (5,800 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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I imagine oversudsing certainly can happen, but I haven't yet used it enough to do that, either accidentally or purposely. The instruction manual recommends HE detergent, but *specifically* states that regular detergent can be used at lower dosage. I haven't studied the service manual in detail, I don't recall if there's mention of an oversudsing recovery routine. If I'm interpreting the serial number correctly, the manufacture date is 2005. |
Post# 284888 , Reply# 26   6/13/2008 at 03:09 (5,793 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 287340 , Reply# 27   6/26/2008 at 00:59 (5,780 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 287347 , Reply# 28   6/26/2008 at 04:25 (5,780 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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The clips were removed for bandwidth conservation. They're back now, temporarily. And another -- Spin deceleration and fluff (61 seconds, 5.3 MB) A few more observations after several more loads. The softener dispenser continues to perform consistently well when the dose is diluted with a maximum amount of water. It doesn't flush some kinds of particulates from the clothes very well, which I suppose is an understandable effect of the low-water tumbling action. Sheets have a bit of body hair remaining, although that comes off in the dryer. A t-shirt that had debris stuck on it from yard work had some left after the cycle. Also on that load, I used All HE liquid, which is blue. I noticed through some of the wash period, the aforementioned t-shirt had a blue splotch on it that took a while to disperse, where the detergent apparently dribbled during dispensing. I used non-HE lime Ace on a load (I think 3 oz.) and there was NO sudsing, although the water was 'slippery.' Will try again sometime, a stronger dose to get some sudsing, see how it deals with that. |
Post# 287417 , Reply# 30   6/26/2008 at 13:25 (5,779 days old) by tuthill ()   |   | |
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I agree with funguy, i would like to know how they drive the rotors(? what ever you call them) and still have them spin around the with the tub. |
Post# 287426 , Reply# 31   6/26/2008 at 15:05 (5,779 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Jed - you can read about the patent by searching in Google Patents for Maytag patent 2645107. The link may or may not work. Ben CLICK HERE TO GO TO swestoyz's LINK |
Post# 287477 , Reply# 32   6/26/2008 at 20:53 (5,779 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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