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Thread Number: 17529
How does a new Speed Queen FL compare? |
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| Post# 286954 , Reply# 1 6/24/2008 at 07:36 (5,777 days old) by nmaineman36 () | ||
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They are also sold at Sozios in Revere. If you go to Speed Queen's website they will tell you where they are sold in the Boston Metro area. | ||
| Post# 286957 , Reply# 2 6/24/2008 at 07:52 (5,777 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
The Whirlpool and LG machines have up to 4.0 cu.ft. capacity.The SQs have a 3.2 cu.ft.capacity.They're even smaller than the Frigidaires which claim to have a 3.5 cu.ft.capacity. I have had all the above mentioned brands except the Speed Queens and all of them could do a queen size bedspread alone or all of the sheets and pillowcases in one load.However,my KitchenAid Ensemble(made exactly like Whirlpool's Duet)and L.G.front loaders easily washed the entire set.The bedspread, all the sheets and pillowcases,and a few bath towels!They had to be dried seperately but I normaly line dry my sheets and pillowcases anyway. | ||
| Post# 286965 , Reply# 3 6/24/2008 at 08:36 (5,777 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston) | ||
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Sozio's? Wow, I haven't been in there in years. Not too far from Everett! I'll check it out. As far as capacity, I am not too concerned with washing bedspreads, just the everyday, average load. I think I would want a commercial machine to tackle a bedspread. Bobby in Boston | ||
Post# 287112 , Reply# 6 6/24/2008 at 22:28 (5,777 days old) by jetcone  (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Bobby
I have had the commercial version in my tenants for almost 7 years with not a problem. They have a SS drum, SS outer drum, 4 FOUR shocks under the tub, SS BASE PLATE!! The commercial machines use way less water than the residential machines. Which I love! John L sells the residential machines and by the way I'll meet you anytime at SOZIO's to kick the tyres!! | ||
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Post# 287128 , Reply# 7 6/25/2008 at 00:48 (5,777 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Speed Queen! | ||
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Post# 287156 , Reply# 8 6/25/2008 at 04:42 (5,776 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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I used Speed Queens front loaders at my dorm, too. Cleaning was gererally good even though the heaters were disabled and a 140*F fill ended up as 104*F at the end of the main wash. I always used pre-wash, however, because the main wash was so short and it also helped to pre-warm the machine and laundry if I wanted a hot wash. The warm fill was cold because the machines didn't have ATC and the cold water pressure was much stronger than the hot water pressure. Rinsing was only so-so. After the main wash, the machine briefly sprayed the load with water before it went through a series a spin bursts. These bursts didn't do a good job at extracting sudsy water. The rinses were ultra short: the machine filled with water (up to where the boot meets the door glass), tumbled three times and drained. The final spin was done at 1000 rmp for several minutes. But since there's no out-of-balance correction the machines sometimes had to abort the spin cycle and would then just sit there doing nothing until the counter counted down to zero. :( All in all, they were good, quiet washers, but only mediocre at rinsing. | ||
| Post# 287179 , Reply# 9 6/25/2008 at 06:47 (5,776 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston) | ||
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Jetcone: Who the hell is John L.? Bobby in Boston | ||
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Post# 287326 , Reply# 10 6/25/2008 at 23:17 (5,776 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Peteski
SQ took these "homestyle" washing machines from a 120v range they had been offering for light commercial use for years. And like many commercial and laundromat washing machines, cycles are pretty limited and set by factory. Seem to remember some of the early SQ units did have "regular" controls for water temp, cycles, and so forth, but that seems to have gone by the boards when SQ made their big relaunch into the domestic appliance market. | ||
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Post# 288241 , Reply# 11 7/2/2008 at 10:55 (5,769 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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John L. | ||
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Post# 288627 , Reply# 12 7/4/2008 at 13:15 (5,767 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Bobby
I bet I could talk my tenants into letting you do a load if you wanted to try one out. But John L ( who you know by now) told me that the residential models use more water than the commercial ones. My commercial machine looks like what Robert is always saying about modern front loaders- "just toss in clothes soap and a wet towelette for modern cleaning" The clothes do look just damp but the tenants have no complaints about rinsing or cleaning. And the love the gambling roulette feature! Just love it! | ||
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Post# 288628 , Reply# 13 7/4/2008 at 13:17 (5,767 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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sorry typo | ||
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Post# 288883 , Reply# 14 7/5/2008 at 22:53 (5,766 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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I think the Speed Queen FL's big selling points include the stainless outer drum, and the right-hinged door. Don't know if the rest of the machine is built better than the average bigger front loader sold in the USA these days, but it's probably better than the original Frigmore and Neptunes. I would imagine that the main bearing is replaceable, as well, another good point. The downside includes the aforementioned too-short cycles. And you can't get an internal heater unless you get the model with the control panel on top. The flat top machines are non-heated only. | ||
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Post# 288895 , Reply# 15 7/5/2008 at 23:43 (5,766 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Don't know about how bad "short" cycles are, and perhaps poor results in SQ front loaders have more to do with laundry practices and or design than anything else. After all Milnor commercial and OPL washing machines have about the same short cycles, but according to reports and members here, they do the job quite well. Of course there are several problems with front loaders that do not have internal heaters or good supply of "HOT" water. Commercial laundries and laundromats use recirculation pumps to make sure fills are hot, not cold, tepid, warm, then hot, which means water temperature may never be more than 100F. Also am wondering what type of detergent many reporting poor results with SQ front loaders are using. For best results one is probably going to need a good HE detergent designed to "hit and run", that is disslove fast and get the job done. L. | ||
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Post# 288909 , Reply# 16 7/6/2008 at 01:29 (5,766 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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I guess I've been spoiled by the heater-equipped Neptune 7500 and of course the various and sundry Mieles. Just did a load of whites in the 1918 in the workshop this afternoon. What a lovely machine. I'm tempted again to move it into the main house, but the Neptune refuses to die - and the Neptune, with its weak 110 volt heater, really needs an external water heater, which the workshop lacks. A proper laundry room probably should also house the water heater for the home. That's how the last place I lived was set up, but that was perhaps the only good thing about the place ;-). The "laundry room" was really a landing, what looked like an enclosed back porch, and there was room only for the water heater and one washer - water heater in back of the washer. A stacked unit could have worked there, I suppose. The '83 Whirlpool top loader liked to waltz around that tiny room. And at the time I really had no clue about laundry, proper water temps, etc. But I was aware enough to notice that when Huish pulled STPP from "Clout!" in the 90's, that the cleaning performance plummeted. | ||
| Post# 288981 , Reply# 17 7/6/2008 at 12:39 (5,765 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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And SQ also touts the fact that no plastic gearing is used in their machines, everything is all metsl for a longer lifespan. | ||
| Post# 289122 , Reply# 19 7/6/2008 at 23:29 (5,765 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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One would think that... with all the experience SQ has with commercial FL machines in the laundromat industry they could build a better machine. Maybe with the eventual redesign they will add more wash options than the current model has. | ||
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Post# 289124 , Reply# 20 7/6/2008 at 23:38 (5,765 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Methinks the problem lies with costs versus returns. SQ has not exactly gone the mass merchandise route, selling to big box stores and the like, and that sort of volume is what they will need to move units. Without high sales cost per unit is going to be more than average for the same size machine, however Whirlpool and others have uber-sized front loaders that offer more features for the price. Make no mistake about it, today's consumer is after bells and gimmicks, not a unit that will last the duration. Most consumers simply do not view "major appliance" purchases the same way their parents and or grand-parents did. More likely than not, the washer will be kicked to the curb, family moved and left it behind, etc; long before what long "lifespan" the machine had. IMHO SQ should have stuck to the earlier version of "homestyle" units, still sold in Canada under "Hubesch". Many of those units were sold to US military bases and are still kicking, despite the abuse. | ||
| Post# 290115 , Reply# 23 7/12/2008 at 06:08 (5,759 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Split a Load | ||
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Post# 290153 , Reply# 24 7/12/2008 at 10:05 (5,759 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 290296 , Reply# 25 7/13/2008 at 01:41 (5,759 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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Those SQ FL machines seem to offer a generous amount of cycle types and water temp combos. Were these used in Military Laundries? I don't see any coin slots on them. | ||
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Post# 290300 , Reply# 26 7/13/2008 at 03:01 (5,758 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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OPL
On premise laundry, military barracks, housing, etc. Laundry is "free" meaning no coin slots. Afterall it's not like anyone off the streets can get in, and how much laundry does your average enlisted man/woman, or officer have? Was watching the PBS program "Carrier" the other night, and apparently the washers and dryers on ships and submarines are "free" as well. IIRC this particular program's ship had Neptunes, or maybe it was SQ, didn't really look beyond knowing it was a front loader. Interesting item: while the machines are free, apparently many military persons pay someother military person to do his/her laundry. On the "Carrier" program, one was paying someone else ten or so dollars to do his wash, but apparently the "launderer" wasn't separating whites from darks, so the customer took his business elsewhere. Have seen many auctions on fLeaBay and elsewhere from sellers hawking used SQ washing machines from military bases. Don't know why the Armed Services only keeps machines for three or so years per contract, but there you go; our tax dollars at work. | ||
| Post# 290331 , Reply# 27 7/13/2008 at 09:12 (5,758 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Military Base Speed Queen Sale | ||
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Post# 290832 , Reply# 28 7/15/2008 at 13:14 (5,756 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Mine has never walked
in fact it is installed on the 3rd floor of my house so if there were any issues it would be major there for syre! There is a problem with two little $5 nylon pins installed on the drop down door! They are crucial to the machine not vibrating in spin. The early ones were made wrong and take 5 minutes to replace. Also they do wear out after 4 years use so need to be replaced. You will know the cabinet will shake violently and when you out the new ones in whamoo it works like a charm. Also the boot is indestructilbe and ALSO MOST IMPORTANT fits the early 1955 and Pre-1955 Bendix washer and Combos!! A tip from DarthJetcone............... | ||
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