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Thread Number: 17576
Here It Is: The LG 9810 Dishwasher (Photos of 1st Load) |
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Post# 287637 6/28/2008 at 06:20 (5,774 days old) by frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287638 , Reply# 1 6/28/2008 at 06:21 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287639 , Reply# 2 6/28/2008 at 06:24 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287640 , Reply# 3 6/28/2008 at 06:26 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287641 , Reply# 4 6/28/2008 at 06:28 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287642 , Reply# 5 6/28/2008 at 06:30 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287643 , Reply# 6 6/28/2008 at 06:36 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Hardly a tough test of the cutlery rack, but it's all I had for this load. I'm going to try to load all silverware in this rack on a future load. It would be great to open up space in the lower rack by not using the flatware basket. The left tray is in the upper position, the right tray in the lower position. You change positions by rotating the trays back-to-front. You can also remove them if you want more headroom in the upper rack. Or, you can easily pull the cutlery rack out entirely. Frankly, I saw the cutlery rack as a gimmick, and figured the first thing I'd do is pull it out and put it in storage. Having used it, it sure is convenient to have a dedicated area to put cooking tools. 
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Post# 287644 , Reply# 7 6/28/2008 at 06:37 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287645 , Reply# 8 6/28/2008 at 06:41 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287646 , Reply# 9 6/28/2008 at 06:42 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287648 , Reply# 10 6/28/2008 at 06:44 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287650 , Reply# 11 6/28/2008 at 06:46 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287651 , Reply# 12 6/28/2008 at 06:46 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287652 , Reply# 13 6/28/2008 at 06:48 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 287653 , Reply# 14 6/28/2008 at 06:48 (5,774 days old) by funguy10 () | ||
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Can't wait for after pictures. I hate dishwashers with hidden controls because I love to watch the controls. | ||
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Post# 287654 , Reply# 15 6/28/2008 at 06:50 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287655 , Reply# 16 6/28/2008 at 06:56 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Overall, my first impression of the LG is excellent. I was wary of the alternating spray mechanism---which sounds like a mist spray, as compared to the wall-of-water Maytag---but the results speak for themselves. The LG won't take as many huge items in one load as the Maytag did---the Maytag's terraced upper rack can't be beaten in that department---but the LG's bottom rack holds all the tall pans I have, even with the upper rack in its lower position. And DAMN, it's super quiet. The machine has a high-end feel to it. The upper and cutlery racks glide silently and effortlessly. The control panel is gorgeous and the door closes with the finesse of a Lexus. If the machine is reliable (always a question with LG), then it was $1500 well spent! | ||
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Post# 287657 , Reply# 17 6/28/2008 at 07:17 (5,774 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 287660 , Reply# 18 6/28/2008 at 07:27 (5,774 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Eugene | ||
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Post# 287671 , Reply# 19 6/28/2008 at 08:51 (5,774 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 287681 , Reply# 20 6/28/2008 at 11:44 (5,773 days old) by maytagwc401 () | ||
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Did this machine replace a Maytag? If yes which model, and why was it replaced? Just curious because I want to change dishwasher in the next few months. Thanks, | ||
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Post# 287691 , Reply# 21 6/28/2008 at 13:28 (5,773 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Greg---The machine is very quiet. The motor and pump are virtually silent. All you really hear is water dropping to the bottom of the tub. I love it! Serge---This LG replaced a TOL Maytag, which was 2-1/2 years old. The circuit board had to be replaced recently, otherwise it was a great dishwasher. It cleaned like a champ and had unbeatable capacity. I replaced it because I wanted to try something totally different. The Whirlpool dealer in my tiny town recently began carrying the LG brand, which is as close to a high-end brand as I'll get. The LG's big selling point for me was the super-quiet operation and the half-load option. I would highly recommend a Maytag, especially if you wash a lot of pots/pans/baking sheets. It's not a very quiet machine, but it's certainly not annoying loud, either. I can't vouch for any LG dishwasher other than mine, which is model 9810. I've done 4 loads in it, three of them using the upper rack half-load option and the Quick Cycle (which is 74 minutes long, compared to the Maytag's 20-minute InstaWash Cycle). Cleaning results have been excellent, and it uses only 5 gallons of water in the Normal Cycle. I think the Quick Cycle may use only 4 gallons. | ||
| Post# 287697 , Reply# 22 6/28/2008 at 15:10 (5,773 days old) by tuthill () | ||
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Excellent photos! Of a very cool machine. I loved the "the test" as well! Congrats on your new LG. | ||
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Post# 287701 , Reply# 23 6/28/2008 at 15:54 (5,773 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 287739 , Reply# 25 6/28/2008 at 23:34 (5,773 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Oh my Eugene, that blue lighting is so cool!! Great results too but like you it sure better be with that amount of time. | ||
| Post# 287846 , Reply# 26 6/29/2008 at 18:27 (5,772 days old) by funguy10 () | ||
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How do you actually start the cycle on a dishwasher with hidden controls? I always thought you choose the cycle and options and just close the door and then after a few seconds it starts automatically. | ||
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Post# 287848 , Reply# 27 6/29/2008 at 18:38 (5,772 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Funguy10-- On my Maytag and the Frigidaire before that, ( both with hidden controls), you would choose the cycle and options, then press start and close the door. With the new LG, you press the power pad, choose the cycle and options, then close the door. After about 5 seconds, the machine starts. The Maytag didn't have a countdown timer the Frigidaire had one on the front, which bugged me at first, but I got used to it. The LG has a countdown timer, but you have to open the door a bit to check it. I just let the machine do its work and listen for the little chiming melody it plays when the cycle has completed. The LG is so quiet that I don't even hear it switching between spraying the bottom and top racks. I also can barely tell when it's draining. | ||
| Post# 287900 , Reply# 28 6/30/2008 at 08:22 (5,772 days old) by mihi () | ||
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Whowww, what a great set of photo's. That is a beautiful machine. It looks like a good quality built product. | ||
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Post# 288016 , Reply# 31 6/30/2008 at 22:10 (5,771 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Andrew--- You're right; Since the LG washes one rack at a time, it can use substantially less water. It also has a more intelligent sensor than the Maytag. The LG's sensor checks turbidity during each phase (at least that's what I think it's doing). If the water passes muster, it returns to washing without another fill. If the water is gunky, it drains, fills, then continues washing. I'll admit I miss the 20-minute InstaWash cycle. It irks me that the shortest cycle is 74 minutes. But I'll adjust. The LG has other features that I wouldn't want to give up. Once again, a feature I thought would be a nuisance (the tiered upper rack of the Maytag, for example) turned out to be my favorite; In the case of the LG, it's the cutlery/flatware rack. I've pulled the flatware basket out and put it under the sink. I load all the silverware Up There, now. It cleans very well. That opens up a lot of room in the bottom rack. The LG is SO much quieter than the Maytag. I love that. Bob (Appnut)---- You're right; The cycle time shown at the beginning of the cycle isn't always exactly accurate. I did another big load of pots/pans using the World's Longest Cycle® and it didn't take 3:31 at all. It was done in 3:26, LOL! In fact, I sold the Maytag today. Our local radio station has a call-in program for buying/selling and it was gone within an hour. A happy couple whose BOL Frigidaire bit the dust got a great deal on an excellent, like-new Maytag, which I have no doubt they'll be very happy with. They loved the stainless interior. One more bonus: I thought our local utility had ended their Energy Star rebate program. Turns out that wasn't correct; I'm getting a $100 rebate! And the LG plays a cute---if harmonically nonsensical---little melody at the end of every cycle. Nice, very nice. | ||
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Post# 288022 , Reply# 32 6/30/2008 at 22:52 (5,771 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Eugene | ||
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Post# 288060 , Reply# 33 7/1/2008 at 06:37 (5,771 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Everything except plastics dries quite well. Glasses with concave bottoms will hold a little water. Dinner knives loaded in the cutlery rack usually have a drop or two of water on them where they lean against the little guides. I haven't really used the flatware basket in the bottom rack to compare drying performance. I'll have to give it a try. It's so convenient to load flatware in that top rack that I've removed the basket altogether. I've rarely used the heated dry on any of my dishwashers, so I don't have a lot to compare it to. I'm used to there being a bit of water certain items. The Maytag didn't have a fan-assisted dry cycle, so it tended to leave things a little wet when not using heated dry. The Maytag also didn't have a vent---not out the front, anyway. The LG vents out the the bottom of the door on the left side. I've read complaints of water pooling on the floor near the vent, but that hasn't happened in my kitchen, yet. Steam is definitely hitting the floor, though. I'm glad it's not a wood floor. I have vinyl. | ||
| Post# 288116 , Reply# 34 7/1/2008 at 16:37 (5,770 days old) by rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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| Post# 288127 , Reply# 35 7/1/2008 at 18:40 (5,770 days old) by nmaineman36 () | ||
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Very nice machine. 3+ hours is a bit long but with results like that I wouldnt mind either. Love the lighting. Not many dishwashers have an LED lighting system like that but thats just too cool. | ||
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Post# 288134 , Reply# 36 7/1/2008 at 19:30 (5,770 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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There was a discussion last year of concern over long dishwasher cycles using excessive amounts of energy. I posted some figures on my DishDrawer's power consumption. The figures were quite low, seems to me. Scenario 1: Household water heater on 70°F to insure the dishwasher must do all the heating. Normal cycle, 115 mins, 5 water changes, 140°F main wash, 150°F final rinse. Power consumption, a tad less than 0.6 KWH. Figured at $0.15/KWH, that's 9 cents. Scenario 2: Normal Eco cycle, 88 mins, 4 water changes, 125°F main wash and final rinse. 0.4 KWH. 6 cents. Scenario 3: Heavy cycle, 132 mins, 7 water changes, 150°F main wash, 163°F final rinse. 0.68 KWH used. About 10 cents. Fill is about 45 watts (pump runs at low speed). Water heating with recirculation, maximum 650 watts. Pump recirculating, varies about 75 to 110 watts. Pump drain, 30 to 45 watts. Drying fan, 7 watts. | ||
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Post# 288163 , Reply# 38 7/1/2008 at 22:14 (5,770 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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OK, ignore the fact that it's a DishDrawer (that'll be five years old in two months, and has thus far needed no repairs). The point was that a cycle 2 hrs 12 mins long pulled about 2/3 KWH of power, which includes heating to 163°F. My last electric bill (for period of 4/23 to 5/23/2008) was $0.1285/KWH. So that'd be 8.7 cents. Which is probably less cost than the eco-detractors expect. Except then consider again that it IS a DishDrawer, so running BOTH drawers would be 17 cents, which I suppose IS outrageous.
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| Post# 288415 , Reply# 40 7/3/2008 at 06:58 (5,769 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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Post# 289333 , Reply# 41 7/8/2008 at 02:05 (5,764 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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