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Post# 62637   4/9/2005 at 00:47 (6,928 days old) by suziehomemaker ()        

well, it happened again,last summer,my fun and generous friend found me a MAYTAG model LWC-202,BELT-DRIVE dishwasher, it cleans like a dream, holds TONS of dishes, and is in GLEAMING shape.It was, get this , only 12.50 at a thrift shop. WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS OF THESE,AND WHAT YEAR WAS THIS OUT?




Post# 62639 , Reply# 1   4/9/2005 at 00:56 (6,928 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
keep the belt drive alive

WOW,WHAT A FIND.Your friend must have a built-in antenna.A great DW from the early 80s,the new Maytags are trash. Do you like the loading arrangement of plates on top, glasses on bottom,or would you prefer the usual glasses on top, plates on bottom?

Post# 62640 , Reply# 2   4/9/2005 at 01:03 (6,928 days old) by suziehomemaker ()        
Bottoms Up!

Hi I like the way I can load it,dishes on top and the glasses on the bottom.

Post# 62650 , Reply# 3   4/9/2005 at 06:03 (6,928 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV)        
new Maytag dishwashers

What year did Maytag cheapen their dishwashers? I have a '98 Jet Clean that does a wonderful job and has a huge capacity. Is this considered one of the good ones, a transitional model, or junk? I know the quality of all Maytag products has gone down the drain, but when did it all start?

Post# 62651 , Reply# 4   4/9/2005 at 06:29 (6,928 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I've got a Maytag DW,probably a 96 or so model,does a fantastic job. I wouldn't call all the newer ones junk.

kennygF


Post# 62658 , Reply# 5   4/9/2005 at 09:40 (6,928 days old) by Mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
2003 Middle of the Line

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Well folks, we all know that my Maytag passion stands! However, in 2003 we purchased a Maytag tall tub, it has failed twice and now the handle to open the door has broken off. We have to just yank it open, and usually I would not have that kind of Junk in my home, but am doing a study to see about putting our 1979 back in the place of this plastic peice of s..t. I was leary when we bought it, and much to the salesmans shcoked look as to all the dislikes and troubles I will not buy another one!

Steve


Post# 62666 , Reply# 6   4/9/2005 at 11:10 (6,928 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

I think for the most part the Maytags up to the day of the tall tub were pretty good machines. By no means as durable as the belt drive. (The only machine that could give the Kitchen-Aids of the time a run for the money.) But they were quiet and cleaned very well. The tall tub units just had too many initial problems. (Broken latch handles, wash impellers falling off, etc) And they are too noisey by todays standard. I would have a hard time deciding on a new dishwasher today. I know a few people here are really happy with high end Kenmore TT machines but I'm running into major problems with these as well. The pump seals are leaking and damaging the motor bearings. I have had many customers get rid of them before they are 2 or 3 years old. When we built our house in 2002 it came with a low end (builders model) GE. It does have the filtering system and cleans perfectly anything you throw in it. Very noisey though.

Ed


Post# 62691 , Reply# 7   4/9/2005 at 18:17 (6,928 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Maytag's Decline

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More than a few times, I've seen bumperstickers, yard placards, etc. that urge a boycott of any Maytag products. This is an article that appeared in our local paper 3/27/05. I found it interesting that the labor unions are recommending a study to see if outsourcing has damaged Maytag's reputation which would, in part, have an effect on stock prices. I'm sure there are many factors, but my money is on quality issues at Maytag. Most of their stuff has become absolute junk in the last 10 years. So sad too when you think of what they used to be...


"Maytag board, shareholders gird for contentious meeting






DES MOINES (AP) - Maytag Corp. stockholders have been growing edgy after watching share prices drop to their lowest level in at least a decade.

"Of course we're not happy with the price of the stock," said Nick Rossi, who owns a hardware store in northern California and 800 shares of Maytag stock. "I'm unhappy with management. I think they've made a lot of bad mistakes over the past 10 years."

Maytag shares are trading around $13.50, considerably less than the $70 per share trading price in 1999.

Rossi, of Boonville, Calif., said he has owned the stock for more than 20 years. He is an advocate of more shareholder control. Maytag's board currently has the power through a so-called "poison pill" policy to reject any purchase offers.

"That is a violation of fundamental ownership," Rossi said. "If an offer comes from another company, the shareholders have the right to consider it, and management has an obligation to present their case for or against it, but the shareholders should decide."

About 60 percent of shareholders have voted to eliminate the poison pill policy every year since 2001, but the board has declined to accept it.

Last year, the company's board said it would reverse the policy this year, but it retained the right to reinstate it at any time.

Rossi has placed the issue before shareholders for the company's May 12 annual meeting in Newton.

The company has advised shareholders to vote no.

"The board is in the best position to negotiate on behalf of all stockholders, evaluate the adequacy of any potential offer, and seek a higher price if there is to be a sale of Maytag," the company said in a proxy statement to be released to shareholders. "The board's ability to seek a higher price in takeover contests on behalf of all stockholders is significantly greater than the ability of the individual stockholder to achieve such a result."

Another initiative, which would allow shareholders to vote on all of the company's board directors each year, also is on the ballot. A majority of shareholders have voted for the change for the past three years, but the board has refused to make the change. It is endorsed for the first time by the company this year.

Annual elections would make board members more accountable to shareholders, said John Chevedden of Redondo Beach, Calif. His father, Ray Chevedden, has 207 shares of Maytag stock. He has held stock in the company for at least a decade.

"I guess you could say they are a serial ignorer of the majority of shareholder votes," John Chevedden said. "We feel if they had adopted these good governance practices they would be better positioned today."

Rossi said he, too, hopes the board adopts an annual election this year because he said it makes the board members more accountable to shareholders.

The company has maintained that it could leave Maytag vulnerable to a takeover.

Rossi said with the stock trading at current levels, increased interest in buying the company is a possibility.

"If somebody sees value in that company and has a good idea how to turn that company around, the shareholders should have the option of considering it," he said.

An investment fund owned by the International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers wants shareholders to approve a study on the affect outsourcing has had on the company's reputation.

Trowel Trades Standard & Poor's 500 Index Fund had the issue included in the company's annual proxy statement. The issue will be placed before shareholders at the annual meeting.

The fund owns 2,779 shares of Maytag stock.

Maytag has shifted some refrigerator production to a plant in Mexico after closing a factory in Galesburg, Ill., and has agreements with Daewoo and Samsung, both Korean manufacturers to make Maytag appliances.

If passed by shareholders, the company board would be asked to set up an independent committee to determine whether outsourcing has hurt Maytag's brand name or reputation.

The company opposes the move and contends that its global strategy has helped it stay competitive and in some cases has preserved jobs in the United States. "


Post# 62692 , Reply# 8   4/9/2005 at 18:37 (6,928 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I own some Maytag stock.I'll have to look at what they send me in the mail concerning voting.

kennyGF


Post# 62724 , Reply# 9   4/9/2005 at 21:19 (6,928 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Greg, like I said on the phone, Maytag's idea to completely drop their (much-changed but) original design was absolutely insane. Very sad indeed I agree.

Another bad idea on their part was the Tall-Tub dishwashers and the Orbital transmission...if it works then just leave it alone!



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