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Commerical Maytag Top-loading Washer *Dependable Care*
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Post# 289683   7/10/2008 at 06:44 (5,741 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Used these yesterday. Was surprised to see a double deep rinse! 35 minute cycle duration (tiimer counts down during water fills as well) with a 10 minute wash and rinses of 2-3 minutes each.

Sequence: W-R-R-S.

Long spray-rinse after the wash and s few short bursts before the final spin.

Standard (read: small) capacity.
Black sraight-vane agitator, without softener dipsenser or filter.
Newer quick-stroke, small-arc tranny.





Post# 289684 , Reply# 1   7/10/2008 at 06:47 (5,741 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

pic


whites= hot water
colors = warm water
bright colors = cold water

woolens= warm water with fabric-matic type soak period (i.e. fewer strokes within 10 minute wash period).
delicates= cold water with fabric-matic type soak period
permanent press said to have cool-down. Will have to investigate.


Post# 289685 , Reply# 2   7/10/2008 at 06:48 (5,741 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

money shot, washer.

Post# 289686 , Reply# 3   7/10/2008 at 06:50 (5,741 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Dryer.

Most there (three of four)were $1.25. Not sure of time given for that. I'm assuming one hour.

24,000 BTU/hr heat input. (slightly above the "usual" 22k).

Whites and colors = High temp.
Permanted Press = Medium temp.
Delicates = Low temp.

I noticed only a 1-minute cool-down as per light on elecronic "timer".


Post# 289687 , Reply# 4   7/10/2008 at 06:54 (5,741 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

This one "special" dryer (of four), was advertising $0.50. So I used that one.

34 minutes for $0.50 (two quarters). Each addtional quarter (of a dollar) [CHA-CHING] added 17 minutes, so $1.00 gave me 68 minutes.

Now I see why this one (the furtherest in disance from the washers) is usually engaged first, before the others.


$1.25 for 60 minutes(in theory; we'll see) versus $1.00 for 68 minutes.


Post# 289688 , Reply# 5   7/10/2008 at 06:57 (5,741 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
Lid up

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Toggles told me that all action stopped when the lid was up....No fill either.

Post# 289689 , Reply# 6   7/10/2008 at 07:06 (5,741 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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lemme tell ya the small arc on these orbital maytags has NOTHING on my GE washer at home. I swear the arc on the GE is less than 90 degrees and really looks rough onthe clothes on high speed. rougher than a DD whirlpool.
didn't think it was possible.....it is.





Post# 289694 , Reply# 7   7/10/2008 at 07:38 (5,741 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Double rinse??

I'm sure the owner of these machines can program this way - but WOW! You don't see that very often - don't think I ever have...



Post# 289699 , Reply# 8   7/10/2008 at 09:17 (5,741 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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On the Perm Press cycle, the spray rinse is one minute; it is 30 seconds on the others.

My 'Tags are programmed so that you add .50 after starting the washer for "Super Cycle" to get an extra 3 minutes of wash time and the second rinse. The washer comes with 1 rinse for 1 minute standard, and the owner can program 1 or 2 rinses at 1, 2 or 3 minutes. Mine are at 3 minutes.

Here's how they work:


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Post# 289700 , Reply# 9   7/10/2008 at 09:20 (5,741 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I agree with Greg; The owner must have set them for a double rinse. I've used machines similar commercial Maytags which had a single rinse. I wonder, though, if the owner realizes how much more water is being used. He's either clueless or the most generous owner I've ever heard of!

Seriously, has anyone ever seen a free extra rinse at a laundromat, before?


Post# 289714 , Reply# 10   7/10/2008 at 12:34 (5,740 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
The owner may not know...

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It's possible that the owner may not be aware. Enjoy while you can. You can also program those controls for special (promo) pricing during certain times of the day. What I like on those commt'l Tags is that while the domestic Dependable Care washers have the fill flume hanging from the lid, Some of the commt'l units have the tub fill port as part of the tub cover like the old 06-12 units. Prevents water deflection when the laundromat customer tries to stuff a king sized comforter into one of those little guys. BTW, that tub cover/fill injector assy retros to the newer dependable care washers...

RCD


Post# 289763 , Reply# 11   7/10/2008 at 15:39 (5,740 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

~He's either clueless or the most generous owner I've ever heard of!

Water in my area is very inexpensive and plentiful.

This is a typical third-party vendor stuation in an apratment building complex, where the machines are provided by the coin-op vendor. The company rents the laundry room from the landlord. Typical rental rates are $1 to $100 per month for the room with "free" electricity, gas, hot and cold water and waste-water facilites. (Just as in all the units/apts. these are typical services provded by the landlord).

Or, the rent may be a percentage of the coins collected (one two or three of the five typically collected). The WIFM ("What's In It For Me") for the laundry comnpany is the coin collection itself. In some cases a percentage split of the coins is usually verified by water meters, assuming all machines are the same and that each cycle/programme uses (nearly)the same amount of water.

Of course this is not a huge money-maker for the landlord. The idea is to keep people from getting their own washers and running them 24/7 with one item per load. Not to mention leaks, floods and vibration issues. Likewise line or rack drying in a small 3 or 4 room (one or two bedroom) apt. leads to moisture mold/mildew issues.

The landlord is proabably clueless and did not get involved in (or did not know enough to ask about) water usage considerations.




Post# 289765 , Reply# 12   7/10/2008 at 15:44 (5,740 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

oh... for charges of less than $1 per load (an inducement for tenants to use the laundry room and again dissuade them from getting their own machines) the lanlord usually charges a VERY minimal fee to the thrid-party vendor of about $12 per year for the room as mentioned earlier.

Post# 290092 , Reply# 13   7/12/2008 at 01:43 (5,739 days old) by vintagesearch ()        

how much do they typically charge tenants to have a clothes washers in their apartments? most family members and friends of mine have washers and dryers in there apartments even those with laundry facilities within the building. If i would live in apartment i would install a washer just like everyone else LOL!

Post# 290096 , Reply# 14   7/12/2008 at 01:56 (5,739 days old) by vintagesearch ()        

i found this link on how to connect a washer to a kitchen sink for those of you wh are do it yourself inclined i do know they make already connections from the manufacturer but again its a fun project if you want to do it. between is the washer in the pics a GE?

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Post# 290098 , Reply# 15   7/12/2008 at 02:18 (5,739 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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If you are allowed to have washer and or dryer units in your building it runs the gamut. Some landlords do not charge extra, others charge flat fee for the water, much will depend upon the lease.

Most NYC landlords do not allow washing machines (not that it stops some tenants), because of increased water usage (not all buildings have separate water meters for each apartment), and most importantly many buildings are so old the plumbing may not or cannot handle washing machine or dishwasher water discharge.

L.


Post# 290107 , Reply# 16   7/12/2008 at 04:42 (5,739 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

In my experience it is nomally the electrical capacity in older NYC buildings that is most limiting.

30a 110v service to an apt "don't go far". (Typically with 2 x 15a circuits). I believe the min. allowable in new consruction is still 40a 220v in NYC apts. I frequently see 60a 220v, which is decent, with gas cooking and heat and hot water provdieed by the lanlord.

Granted, I see and have lived in mostly pre-war(older) buildings, but have yet to see individual water metering in NYC apts.








Post# 290109 , Reply# 17   7/12/2008 at 05:00 (5,739 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

~How much do they typically charge tenants to have a clothes washers in their apartments?

I have seen charges of $10 to $20 per month. Sometimes the landlord WON'T put a a laundry room (or will REMOVE one)on-premies due to a high crime rate or poverty-stricken area. Too much additional fees/premiums in liability insurance, and "headaches".

I'm guessing with a "good" landlord a washer fee / increase in rent also pays for insurance coverage for accidents from floods.


Post# 290468 , Reply# 18   7/13/2008 at 20:08 (5,737 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Here are the operating instructions and the cycles/programmes.

Post# 290470 , Reply# 19   7/13/2008 at 20:09 (5,737 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

mixed darks

Post# 290472 , Reply# 20   7/13/2008 at 20:10 (5,737 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Towels

I LOVE that the "Warm" selection is quite hot!


Post# 290474 , Reply# 21   7/13/2008 at 20:11 (5,737 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Bedsheets

Post# 290501 , Reply# 22   7/13/2008 at 20:48 (5,737 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Here is a video of the dryer that squeals.

Most in this laundry room are $1.25 for 50 minutes. An addtional $0.25 gets you 10 minutes for a total of 1 hour for $1.50.

The odd-ball dryer is 34 minutes for $0.50. Another $0.50 gets you a total of 68 minutes. One more quarter buys you another 14 minutes.

Talk about discrpancies in pricing!





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Post# 290573 , Reply# 23   7/14/2008 at 00:20 (5,737 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Hey, thems my sheets! Thanks for washing them for me!

Post# 290613 , Reply# 24   7/14/2008 at 06:04 (5,737 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Te he he he.


One of the washers appears to have a water-inlet solenoid-valve issue. It continues to drip slowly when not filling. Is this a frequent occurance?

Thanks Peter, you were spot-on regarding a 60 second spray-rinse in the PP cycle. It is a 30 second duration in the other cycles. The PP cycle was also two minutes shorter than the others, but in the laundry room's heat and humidity I was dizzier than usual and really could not (at that moment) figure out "where it (the two minutes of time) went". Methinks the final spin is a minute less.

Ah, also regarding the dryers. The settings all appear to be the same thing=> *HOT* (make that "inferno" temperature).

Whites = 1 minute cool-down.
Permanent Press = 2 minute cool-down
Delicates = 3 minute cool-down.

It is interesting to note that the buttons are labeled "Fabric Settings" not "Temperature Settings". Can anyone confirm for me the above, meaning one temp.?


Post# 290630 , Reply# 25   7/14/2008 at 07:39 (5,737 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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The PP cycle is shorter because I think the final spin is only 3 minutes instead of 5. Less wrinkles, you know.

If the dryers are as programmable as the washers, then the owner can program different temp limits for each button.


Post# 290664 , Reply# 26   7/14/2008 at 12:02 (5,736 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

That dryer sounds like a subway train going around a corner! The wheels will squeal like that! How could anyone stand that for an entire cycle?

Post# 290678 , Reply# 27   7/14/2008 at 13:15 (5,736 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

It is good to see a real Maytag!!


Ross


Post# 290691 , Reply# 28   7/14/2008 at 14:28 (5,736 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

The squeal comes and goes.

BTW after many decades of subway exposure one goes deaf in the lower and higher registers, and you don't hear it.

GadgetGary was visiting when the Long Island Rail Road whizzed by (above ground, one block over, by my place). He was concerned. I didn't even feel (the building shaking) or hear it.

FEH!


Post# 290792 , Reply# 29   7/15/2008 at 06:10 (5,736 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Actually better for me. When I run my washer in my new apt. the neighbors can't say much about vibration.......

Post# 291163 , Reply# 30   7/17/2008 at 04:25 (5,734 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

.....and I ran my own washer. I don't think anyone noticed. *YAY*

Rack dried, and the items dried in about 12 hours. Within 24 hours, 100% dry.

Oddly, towels dried very quickly. The A/C vent hits the drying rack, so the circulating dry air helps!



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