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Post# 291124   7/16/2008 at 22:15 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Okay - so a few weeks ago I had a slight problem with Menards.

Was picking up some plumbing items and went out back. Their stood a lone LAT9800 series Maytag from the mid 90's. I thought - this is a GREAT washer for my parents. Mom had been complaining about the A806 and figured this would be a good replacement.

Paid the 9 dollars, went home, got the truck, and went back to find that the ONLY machine they had on hand, had been sold twice. First to me, then again to the person who picked it up before I got back.

Now, I didn't want to put bad kama upon the store or myself, so I let it go. Good thing.

So - the latest treasures to bestow the used appliance section:





Post# 291125 , Reply# 1   7/16/2008 at 22:16 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Not sure if this is WCI material or the real GM deal - but I left it behind. The clowns who unloaded it turned this mint DW into a small scrap pile by crushing the bottom frame - thus poping the door track completely out. Shame too, was pretty clean.



Post# 291126 , Reply# 2   7/16/2008 at 22:17 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
2nd - green with envy Hotpoint

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So, there were actually TWO of these Hotpoints there - very strange looking dishwashers. Very similar to the all digital 80's GE that is living in the basement now, but with a porcelain tub. Passed.

Post# 291127 , Reply# 3   7/16/2008 at 22:18 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Hotpoint timer:

Post# 291129 , Reply# 4   7/16/2008 at 22:20 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
A Sudsy 308

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This little darling was quite the gem. Very clean, nice, and you could tell the previous owner's took very good care of it. Unfortunately there just isn't enough room in the world to save them all.

What is that BEAST of a GE behind it?


Post# 291130 , Reply# 5   7/16/2008 at 22:20 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Panel close-up. I can almost hear the suds solenoid clicking away....

Post# 291131 , Reply# 6   7/16/2008 at 22:22 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
AMERICANA = BEAST

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Then this thing. Geez - who ever bought this thing was totally trying to compensate for something! Too bad the lens is missing......

Post# 291132 , Reply# 7   7/16/2008 at 22:23 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Man I just love these doors.

Post# 291133 , Reply# 8   7/16/2008 at 22:25 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Funny thing...

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So I saw the machines, and thought, well if the lens was there I'd pick up the dryer. Walked back to the car, grabbed the camera to take the photos, and started looking around for the lens.

BINGO!


Post# 291134 , Reply# 9   7/16/2008 at 22:27 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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She sure was a mint machine before Menards got their early 20's something hands on her. All the dents, two small rust spots on the top, and the cracked lens certainly happened during the 10 foot stroll from the delivery truck to the ground. Oh well, I've never seen one of these locally, and doubt I will again anytime soon.

Post# 291136 , Reply# 10   7/16/2008 at 22:28 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Model tag for those die-hard GE fans

Post# 291137 , Reply# 11   7/16/2008 at 22:30 (5,752 days old) by tuthill ()        
What???

She didn't like the 806?? I FRICKEN LOVE THE 806!!

Post# 291138 , Reply# 12   7/16/2008 at 22:30 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Will look nice next to the three-speed GE of similar control panel, once cleaned up.

I will say - the doors on these things are ridiculous! Once I get some juice to her later this weekend, I'll post a shot of the lit drum and panel. Till then,

Ben


Post# 291139 , Reply# 13   7/16/2008 at 22:35 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
* redeems

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Good thing I didn't become a professional copy-editor. Geez!

Ben


Post# 291140 , Reply# 14   7/16/2008 at 23:05 (5,752 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
She didn't like the 806?? I FRICKEN LOVE THE 806!!

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I second that!!

Must be something wrong with it.....


Post# 291141 , Reply# 15   7/16/2008 at 23:26 (5,752 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Frigidaire Dishwasher!

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This is a nicely styled dishwasher. But it is a WCI - I can tell because if it were GM it would say built by GM. Can you take a interior picture. Also the Hotpoint is a mid 70's dishwasher with GE internal mechanics. It was one of the first ones made after the real Hotpoints went out. We had one like this but only with a few more selections. It cleaned good. The normal cycle had 7 water changes. Nothing like that today.
Thanks for posting
Peter


Post# 291142 , Reply# 16   7/16/2008 at 23:36 (5,752 days old) by goblue ()        

love the green hotpoint. looks like the one my grandma had in her kitchen.

Post# 291143 , Reply# 17   7/16/2008 at 23:38 (5,752 days old) by goblue ()        

this sounds like a stupid question but does Menards sell there trade ins???
i wish more places would. I know Sears in st.louis will give them away if you ask nicely


Post# 291147 , Reply# 18   7/17/2008 at 00:20 (5,752 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Hmm, appliances for the soon-to-be wwealthy. That Hotpoint dishwasher was the same dishwasher friends of mine had in their first house they bought. the kitchen also had a Hotpoint equivalent of the Americana double oven hi/lo range. Incidentally, they had the exact same harvest gold hemnore set that was for sale (linked earlier). This family went on to be one of the foundeers of a very successful PC manufacturer in Houston, their first being a "luggable" portable IBM-clone. The 7000 sq. ft. house they built had a GSD2800 DW, double self-cleaning GE 30" wall ovents, 6-burner Jenn-aire cooktop, GE microwave, ice machine, GE Fridge, and 2-speed ex-large capacity late 1988 Maytag with auto-dry non-electronic control gas dryer in almond.

Post# 291148 , Reply# 19   7/17/2008 at 00:21 (5,752 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I would have loved to have seen the inside of that Frigidaire DW. The Pots 'n' Pans cycle had 3 detergent washes, one with a very very long wash. They actually cleaned quite well.

Post# 291164 , Reply# 20   7/17/2008 at 04:26 (5,752 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I just finished setting up a contract with Menards!they will now cary our full line of Equator Appliances.

Post# 291165 , Reply# 21   7/17/2008 at 06:09 (5,752 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Millions of those cheap old "builders-grade" Hotpoints occupy apartment complexes across the deep-south. That big-door GE dryer is a great find. Now, I think Greg has had some experience with them (not very favorable as I recall), however I always liked those and especially the convience of the large door. Of course, typical GE, the lint gets caught everywhere as well as the screen!

I believe I would end-up stopping by that Menards every evening-----and bribing the removal crew to be careful not to inflict "moving trauma" on the merchandise!


Post# 291174 , Reply# 22   7/17/2008 at 07:46 (5,752 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Ben you sure have found some neat treasures at Menards!! That GE dryer is a beast but a beauty!! I bet she will look real neat with her console all aglow! Looks like you have a good vacuum collection started there as well.

Post# 291185 , Reply# 23   7/17/2008 at 08:22 (5,752 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
The A806

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For the record - she did not hate it, but wanted something to match her Neptune dryer. The LAT would have fit the bill nicely, but never-the-less.

Anywho - Steve, I wondered about those Hotpoints. First thought that crossed my mind is that they came out of rentals or an appt. building.

The Frigidaire DW is a lost cause, the door glides are fairly messed up so a good picture of the inside may not be possible.

Looking forward to a clean-up on the GE, but I've brought home so many things in the last few weeks that need a 'clean-up' with almost NO time. Then that Unimatic... lol

Ben


Post# 291210 , Reply# 24   7/17/2008 at 09:56 (5,752 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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On the Frigidaire logo, look at the "F". Note there are no serifs on the letter. The straight, block font is the sure giveaway that it is WCI.

Seem to me that Mr. Gansky said that when GE made this wide mouth dryer, they didn't increase the airflow and this causes some condensation on the front of the dryer.


Post# 291213 , Reply# 25   7/17/2008 at 10:20 (5,752 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Let me be the first to predict there will soon be a sick, unexplainable, yet very powerful drive to collect early-to-mid 1980s WCI products in all their cheap, flimsy, plastic glory. Me, I'd love a 1981 Westinghouse or Frigidaire Washer. I know, I know, it's heresy.

Post# 291236 , Reply# 26   7/17/2008 at 13:21 (5,752 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
We all get our own little dose of hell.

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I never find suds-savers here; forced to make my own. Ben, that store is a mini-gold mine. I'm glad you have it, and thanks for sharing. You have some of the best karma in town, and it's catching!!!!!!;'D

Post# 291270 , Reply# 27   7/17/2008 at 15:41 (5,751 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Looks good, Ben! I know what you mean about the 20 somethings. Most of the trades at the local Menards look like they've been dropped off the back of the truck! Although I did see a Maytag Dependable Care today that looked good....

Post# 291286 , Reply# 28   7/17/2008 at 18:53 (5,751 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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I still got my 308s it aint going anywhere

Delicate cycle is fun but PP leaves much to be desired


Post# 291323 , Reply# 29   7/17/2008 at 23:18 (5,751 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
If it doesn't say Libby's, Libby's Libby's o

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I'm not sure if that Frigidaire dishwasher is still the GM design, but if it was it was among the models produced after the WCI acquisition. GM-Frigidaire products always have the GM logo in the triple set of squares, and the crown-F moves off to the side. After the WCI acquisition and the elimination of the GM insignia, it moves to the center.

I *LOVE* the clean/dirty slider. That should have been required for all dishwashers :-)


Post# 291326 , Reply# 30   7/18/2008 at 00:03 (5,751 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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YAY - so glad the clean/dirty slider was noticed. Agreed 100 percent on the requirement that all DW's in production should have it.

I *really* wish that Frigidaire was in better shape. It certainly was a cool dishwasher. Bob if it is still there this weekend I will flip it right-side up and try to get some inside shots.

Ben


Post# 291329 , Reply# 31   7/18/2008 at 00:48 (5,751 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I did have a dryer just like this, but mine was much prettier in gold ;-)

They are OK dryers but as mentioned, the lint around the door opening is very annoying. They used the same blower as the standard dryers and it didn't seem to be able to keep up with the evaporation ability of the heater so moisture would condense on the cool metal surfaces where lint from the load would collect. I loved the big door opening and it was a very quiet dryer but due to it's design flaws, rather slow. CR complained that the large door made it impossible to open or close the door with a typical laundry basket in front of the machine, they were right and it proved to be more of an annoyance than you might think it would - especially in tight installations. They must have made some improvements in later designs as they carried the model in various forms (GE, Hotpoint and JCP branded) for a long time. IIRC they were made in the Hotpoint factory and the first of the gas models was 28,000 BTU rated, maybe more. I remember Bob telling me they weren't too accurate as marked on the dial for "normal" loads and that was true - the electronic control on mine was off by a couple of notches on the timer dial for jeans and bulky items.


That Frigidaire dishwasher is a WCI - probably a rather early Frigidaire product, they kept much of the styling of the GM models for a while in the early 80's. You can just make out the stationary wash-tower in the lower rack - a blast from the Westinghouse roots of WCI-land. It would be remarkable to see one that has no rust in the tank.

You certainly have more interesting things at your Menards than we do here, but they are a rather small player in the appliance market here. Nonetheless, I'm getting tired of seeing the same 70's Hotpoint slide-in range every time I go! There was a GE V12 washer that was there for a while, but the top was rusted through and not worth the trouble. Still had it's mini-basket, filter pan and softener dispenser though...


Post# 291339 , Reply# 32   7/18/2008 at 03:59 (5,751 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Hey Greg,

I remember that dryer (and the matching washer IIRC). I was quite impressed by it. What happened with that set?


Post# 291386 , Reply# 33   7/18/2008 at 08:59 (5,751 days old) by 7080swashertalk ()        

May-nerds (menards) sometimes has some interesting things, it is true. They are so lame though. They will put the appliances on a pallet(making it easy to move) but then put the appliance one or two shelves up off the ground so you can't even see it without them lowering it.

they also leave the appliances OUTSIDE. Hello!
It rains here and in the winter it gets all cold and stuff.
Things freeze. And yeah, they don't handle these fragile gems with the respect they deserve.

What do you expect from their 18 year old yard crew?
(you have to feel kind of sorry for the 20 something and younger group. They may have internet and cel phones, but they don't know good music, good sex, fun fashions, or television news that isn't republican propaganda. what a waste of human flesh)

Of course, I like the Frig with the analog timer and woodgrain console. And the Avacodo Hotpoint BOL.

Those Large GE dryers measuring what 32" wide, I have had 2 of them. An Avacodo JCPenny and a Harvest gold GE 1977.
I share Gregs Opinion. They weren't real practical. Not only were they wide, they were also Deep. They looked big for the sake of Big. (hmm, its the US, what a surprise. blahhh)

I guess I should be grateful. I am guessing that Best Buy and the like send these models direct to the crusher.

Thanks for posting.



Post# 291400 , Reply# 34   7/18/2008 at 10:02 (5,751 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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I'm wondering who's actually buying these appliances? (besides us of course!) I'm fairly certain all are untested and considered primarily for parts or fixer-uppers (hence the VERY flexible return policy). I think the pricing tier is based on age and not so much on function. Ben and I have seen some mint Maytags show up at bargain prices. Course lots of times others are on their sides, missing consoles, AND strewn on the ground.

Grateful? Yes! At Lowes they lock 'em all up in a trailer destined for the scrap yard upon arrival. Can't even see what we're missing out on (probably better that way).


Post# 291463 , Reply# 35   7/18/2008 at 15:14 (5,750 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Local used appliance guy has 2 local Lowes sewed up. But then HE scraps about 90% of what he gets. Sad, sad, sad.....

For $9.99 Menards charges, I could take them to the scrapyard, and for the most part, recover my money. That's who's buying them.


Post# 291465 , Reply# 36   7/18/2008 at 15:20 (5,750 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Louis, that washer and dryer ended up parted-out and scrapped. The dryer became an orphan when I took the washer up to Don in Minneapolis. It was beginning to leak oil and then it became a torrential downpour out of the transmission so Don put it out of it's misery. It was a really fun machine to play with and I've often thought I should have kept it as it was always one of my favorites, but I did keep the panel which someone adopted at the '05 convention here. Someday I will find another pretty GE washer like that again - which I will have to carry around on my back as I have no more room anywhere for another washer!

Here is the pair in question:


Post# 291466 , Reply# 37   7/18/2008 at 15:22 (5,750 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Americana Dryer - open for business. I got the set at an estate sale and other than a tiny leak around the top of the washer tub seal, they worked just fine.

Post# 291469 , Reply# 38   7/18/2008 at 15:26 (5,750 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Washer money shot. It was a Dispensall model - a very, very cool idea but another that got shot down by lack of practicality in home use. The dispenser tray was missing in mine, long ago tossed due to the same problems most of these beauties suffered. Using recirculated water running through the channels and valves of the system made for some frustrated owners. Lint, dirt and the dreaded hard-water deposits made for some nasty dispensers over time.

Post# 291486 , Reply# 39   7/18/2008 at 16:39 (5,750 days old) by 7080swashertalk ()        
Oh Greg...

so kewl.

I had both those machines at one point. However, not at the SAME time.

I had the washer I bought in California in 1986 when I lived in Northridge. I bought it at a Used appliance store on Sepulveda Blvd in Van Nuys. (It probably parished in the Northridge quake 15 years ago.)

It had the dispenser intact and the bleach dispenser pocket cover(which yours is missing), though the analog shifter that moved the filter-flo spout so that it would shoot the water into the dispenser in different ways at different parts of the cycle, wasn't working right. This is also the washer I ended up needing to change the transmission(something I had done before), but I learned if one of the Stainless Steel bolts on the boot clamp breaks...
...replace with matching SS. lol (not standard metal)

The dryer I had in 1989. It was Harvest gold too, had the same console but not the light. It was what I call the mid heigth console. angular, just went up and flat top.
I got and sold it. It needed a new heating element. It also had some rust issues on the bottom.

So kewl that you have/had a pair... and in Harvest Gold.

Now, lets be honest.

puts some 12" wheels on that dryer, you got an SUV!
tack a license plate on the back, now its street legal.
Kids would love it.


Post# 291504 , Reply# 40   7/18/2008 at 18:02 (5,750 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you Greg for these pictures. I saved them back then, but they are on the hard drive of my old computer. Very impressive machines indeed. Beasts in one word! LOL

Post# 291664 , Reply# 41   7/19/2008 at 21:51 (5,749 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
More photos for Bob:

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Hey Bob, I went back and took some more photos of the dishwasher for you. It seems she is destined for the crusher - they dropped it off the back of the truck causing the door glides to be completely bent out of shape. So much that it was impossible to open the door completely.

Post# 291666 , Reply# 42   7/19/2008 at 21:52 (5,749 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Door - I suspect there is the main detergent dispenser on the right, and a pre-wash one on the left?

Post# 291668 , Reply# 43   7/19/2008 at 21:53 (5,749 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Inside - a mess. The top rack adjusters were pretty cool though.

Post# 291669 , Reply# 44   7/19/2008 at 21:54 (5,749 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Bottom rack

Post# 291671 , Reply# 45   7/19/2008 at 21:54 (5,749 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Saved this little guy. Has the earlier GM logo on it

Post# 291672 , Reply# 46   7/19/2008 at 21:55 (5,749 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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WCI Frigidaire Logo

Post# 291673 , Reply# 47   7/19/2008 at 21:56 (5,749 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Wash options

Post# 291683 , Reply# 48   7/19/2008 at 22:19 (5,749 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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If I were closer I would already have that Maytag w/ suds-saver at my house. I absolutely love them, be it a GE, 'Tag, or any other brand.

Post# 291690 , Reply# 49   7/19/2008 at 22:56 (5,749 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Thanks for more pics - a very WCI'd Westinghouse with Frigidaire jewelry. That cutlery basket is very Frigidaire-ian too.



Post# 291705 , Reply# 50   7/20/2008 at 00:06 (5,749 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ben, I cannot say thank you enough so deeply from inside me for the appreciation of the effort you made so I could see more pictures. I've never seen any WCI type dishwasher like that inside. Especially a spray arm (wash arm) like that. I wonder how well this thing really cleaned. The Frigidaire version must have been WCI's high-end label. Fascinating.

Post# 829489 , Reply# 51   6/25/2015 at 07:00 (3,218 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
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Is that a GE mechanism? Ive only ever seen one Frigidaire like that, and it resembled a BOL GE knock off. Perhaps WCI used GE patents?

Post# 829494 , Reply# 52   6/25/2015 at 07:34 (3,218 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Those early WCI Frigidaires (also the White-Westinghouse and Kelvinator) dishwasher wash and racking systems were based on the last 'true' Westinghouse designs - I think that endured into the early 90s.  

 

It's not a great view, but note the similarities between the rack and wash arm/tower to this 1971 Westinghouse dishwasher.  I've got a later model (a Viking-badged version) with the exact same upper rack adjustment. 


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Post# 829503 , Reply# 53   6/25/2015 at 09:47 (3,218 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

I remember these dishwashers well. Every time I went to Eaton's, downtown Montreal, as a teenager, opening every dishwasher door, on the 5th floor. Lots of Viking dishwashers, and Maytags, and KitchenAids. The upper racks of the Vikings (as in the pictures) did not slide out smoothly as the Maytags and KitchenAids. I don't think they had wheels.

Post# 829516 , Reply# 54   6/25/2015 at 11:15 (3,218 days old) by mamapinky (blairsville pa)        

Speaking of Frigidaire DW's I have one, model# MDB202RBW0...serial TH61926060...I have been wanting to ask if any of you can date it and give me any info on this. Thank you all much Cheryl

Post# 830472 , Reply# 55   7/2/2015 at 13:33 (3,211 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

Good commercial, featuring a G.E. Americana dryer

CLICK HERE TO GO TO whitetub's LINK


Post# 830679 , Reply# 56   7/4/2015 at 12:04 (3,209 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        
Menards sells what?

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I had no idea Menards sold used appliances. Do they all sell used appliances? Going to Menards is a rare treat, as there is not one near me. Next time I'm in Wiaconsin, I'm definitely checking on that.

Post# 831089 , Reply# 57   7/7/2015 at 02:57 (3,206 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Sad,no Menards in my area-have to go to the swap shops for older machines.Just only 2 Lowes in my area-HD closed their place several years ago.Now its a Burlington Coat factory.


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