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Thread Number: 18334
Out with a Whirlpool, in with a Zanussi Jetsystem |
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| Post# 297895 8/19/2008 at 13:03 (5,728 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
Hello all Haven’t been around much but I thought I would give you a low down on this machine. I have recently acquired a new Zanussi Jetsystem 1600 ZWF16581W. It was delivered yesterday and I had it up and running yesterday evening. It replaces a Whirlpool 1400 (not sure of age) which was left in my flat when I bought it. The whirlpool was fine and dandy but had a rather noisy brush motor and I thought it would be nice for a change. My brother now owns it. Back to the Zanussi! Well I’m suitably impressed and it is nice and quiet, even at 1600rpm. The distribution is far more intelligent than the Merloni/Hotpoint machines. It does sense out of balances but does a much better job at getting the load even by using different drum rhythms and speeds. The Hottie’s just repeat themselves and go into distribution too fast, literally flinging the clothes to the sides. The jet seems thick and strong and seems to help with the wash. It has many different programs and different drum speeds and rhythms, the most fun being the Superquick Cotton wash where it starts the rinse in a fast distribution. While it turns it fills and sprays the clothes, it fills a few inches up the door so water levels are not too low. Program times are also not too long, the jetsystem plus programs start by saying 2 hours but quickly sense the load and readjust to about 1 hour 10 mins. The Superquick washes are about 45mins. Pros Great spin, distributes well, gets clothes really dry Very quiet, even when spinning fast (considering its speed) Lot’s of fun programs and settings Good quality powder drawer compared to other makes Powerful jet, water levels not too low Programs not too long, with shorter options Rinse hold on most progs and night selection (spins suppressed then rinse hold) Cons Short progs could have better rinsing, only use small amount of detergent Beep at end can be annoying Minute wait for door lock (Aqualtis opens immediately) Deep, so sticks out slightly (but then the drum is big) Slightly difficult to level as feet set back a few inches Goes from 1600 to 900 I would like 1200 inbetween No 50 wash I have only had this an evening so am still learning. Any questions feel free to ask! Rob 
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| Post# 297901 , Reply# 1 8/19/2008 at 13:09 (5,728 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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The Whirlpool | ||
| Post# 297905 , Reply# 2 8/19/2008 at 13:13 (5,728 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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| Post# 297907 , Reply# 3 8/19/2008 at 13:19 (5,728 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 297916 , Reply# 4 8/19/2008 at 13:44 (5,728 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi Darren, good to hear from you! I must find out when you are free so we can have a natter. Yes it does have the extra rinse option. I have used, Superquick Cottons, Superquick synthetics + extra rinse and finally Jetsystem Cotton. I want to try Superquick Cottons + extra rinse next time as I felt this could have rinsed a bit better. Really pleased so far, I'm glad I stuck to my guns and got what I wanted. | ||
| Post# 297937 , Reply# 5 8/19/2008 at 14:39 (5,728 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK) | ||
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Hi Rob, great machine! I like those new Zanussis, my sister has the basic 1200 Essential one and she's been very happy with it so far. One question to ask - what is the difference between the Jetsystem + programmes and the standard Cottons/synthetics programmes? Jon | ||
| Post# 297945 , Reply# 6 8/19/2008 at 15:15 (5,727 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
Nice Machine!!
Hey Rob! Congrats on your new machine it looks really nice!! Makes me miss mine! Though mine didnt last very long I still think Zanussi are one of the best buy brands in my opinion as their affordable and built well. There much better than some of the other stuff out these days! :) Happy Washing :D!! Richard | ||
| Post# 297980 , Reply# 8 8/19/2008 at 17:26 (5,727 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK) | ||
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Nick - nice to see you again! Hope everything's going well :-). Jon | ||
| Post# 297991 , Reply# 9 8/19/2008 at 18:17 (5,727 days old) by platinum6 () | ||
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Congratulations on your new Zanussi and may I say it looks very nice. I like the fact that it has the Jetsystem and also that it has plenty of programmes and features, just what 1 needs in this modern day and age lol. | ||
Post# 298086 , Reply# 10 8/20/2008 at 03:30 (5,727 days old) by foraloysius  (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Rob
Nice machine! And so many options. I'm interested in the difference between the Jet system programmes and the cotton ones too. Zanussis in the UK are apparently the same models as the Electrolux overhere. Zanussi in the Netherlands have become Electrolux's BOL machines overhere. I'm looking forward to your videos, especially one of the speeding up from 900 to 1600rpm. Sounds like washer drama!! Louis | ||
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Post# 298093 , Reply# 11 8/20/2008 at 05:49 (5,727 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Zanussi Jetsystem+
Hi Rob Congratulations on your new Zanuusi, I think they have incorporated a lot of good stuff in this latest machine, sturdy as well!!! Interesting about the spin speed selections, havnt had too many customers complain about that feature, I suspect most people use the fastest speed (except laundry officionados)although I`m prone to select fast for all!!! The one feature I would want is the 50d wash, and on the Duvet wash it only does 30d & 700rpm, now for me if washing a duvet at home I`d want 60d & fast spin...The panel is a little confusing for some customers, the first one I sold had the customer ringing up saying the jetsystem was faulty as it was working across all programmes instead of only the "first 3 as stated on the programme selector!!! Looking forward to seeing the vids, enjoy, Mike p.s. Louis, did you get my mail??? also BOL is officially ditched!!!! its now called "Multi Brand Positioning" according to the brand ethics team!!!...Lol | ||
| Post# 298095 , Reply# 12 8/20/2008 at 05:55 (5,727 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi all and thanks for all your comments! Great to see some old faces again (Jon and Nick) haven't spoken to you in ages. I must admit there was a Bosch on in Allders so I could see the program times and I was very impressed. It did sway me but I have never owned a new Zanni and wanted a jetsystem and something quiet. The video of the spin is really quiet even at top speed. Will upload over the weekend and will also film some more rinse action when I get the chance. Jetsystem Plus Programs - These sense the size of the load and adjust everything to fit that! For the first few minutes the machine senses everything and displays the longest time possible. It then readjusts itself. I was washing a double set of towels and it went from 2.15 down to 1.15. It really seems to work well. In fact this machine really seems to sense everything particulary well, including the balance. It may not be a Miele but for the price of £340 it really is worth it for a top of the range Zanussi machine. Rob | ||
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Post# 298145 , Reply# 13 8/20/2008 at 09:56 (5,727 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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"Multi Brand Positioning" | ||
| Post# 298175 , Reply# 14 8/20/2008 at 12:03 (5,727 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
reevoo | ||
| Post# 298203 , Reply# 15 8/20/2008 at 14:41 (5,727 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
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Ahh yes, i'm sad to say i had this confirmed to me that zanussi was going to be a bottom of the line machine! If you go on the sainsburys website you'll see the new tricity bendix machines in that styling of the dutch zanussi machine! Apparently the new structure is Zanussi, Aeg & then Electrolux, with electrolux being particularly pricey too! Can't wait to see more of your zanussi rob! What are the standard rinse water levels like? Darren | ||
| Post# 298308 , Reply# 16 8/21/2008 at 05:04 (5,726 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Well last night after a dinner party, I did a smallish, Superquick Cotton wash. I selected temp 60, spin 900 and extra rinse. It was fascinating as it acted a bit like an old fashioned Bendix/Zanussi. The program lasted 1hr 5mins and the first 30mins was the wash. The rhythms are long with very short pauses. It washes fast then slow, then fast, then slow again followed by a pause and reverses and does the same thing. It did 4 full rinses. It did not spin after the wash or rinse 1 but on rinse 2 and 3 it did a standard 500 1min spin, just like they used to do. The rinses were very short and filled to the bottom of the door. The final rinse differed as it filled in stages a few inches up the door. It also started with the jet on distribution until it was half full. The final spin was in 3 stages with a gradual build up. The 900 spin lasted a few minutes. This is perfect for me as I want things reasonably dry but not too creased. I find personally 900 for 2mins is about right for me. I do now wonder what the 1600 spin would have done and if the interims had been different. This machine is fascinating as it really does change all the time. The superquick cottons on 1600 without the extra rinse was completely different with distribution rinsing and profile spins. So Darren it’s hard to give an answer to your question as each rinse is so different. So far the highest has been a few inches up the door, but then bear in mind the size of the drum and it is not mean on water at all. The water was pretty clear at the end of the wash last night. Noise at 11.30 was also not a problem, even at 900. Bear with me and I will film what I can over the next few weeks. BTW Nick, I always thing that the best way to confirm what type of motor a machine has is to give it a good hand spin in the shop. You can definately tell the difference between the Zanussi's. So if you don't mind me asking, what happened to the LG? Did you just fancy a change? | ||
| Post# 298333 , Reply# 19 8/21/2008 at 10:40 (5,726 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK) | ||
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Sorry, forgot to say - one of the main reaons for going for a Bosch is because I know the powder drawer flushes every last bit in. My Zanussi used to leave specks in the drawer and a puddle of unused powder at the back of the chamber. This is important to me. Have you noticed how your Zanny does in this respect. Rob? | ||
| Post# 298497 , Reply# 21 8/22/2008 at 06:32 (5,725 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
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Whirlpool
Hi Rob, I think your Whirlpool dates from around 2002, my sister had the same machine up until 3 weeks ago but 3 kids and 4 loads of washing a day for 6 yrs took its toal. I thought it was a great machine but far too noisy. Against my advise she has bought a BOL indesit, somehow I doubt if that will last 6yrs!! Congratulations on getting the Zanussi, I have been looking at the same machine myself as I have an open plan kitchen/living room and it would be great to have a machine that was not too intrusive when watching TV. | ||
| Post# 298504 , Reply# 22 8/22/2008 at 07:40 (5,725 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi all and thanks for your comments again and to AEG03 for explain the reasons for certain things. The machine certainly is quiet, which is just what I wanted for my open plan kitchen in my flat. Hi Nick, your questions I’ll will see what I can do. The problem is that I’m not always at the flat so I will do this from memory. Firstly, I haven’t noticed any hissy filling noises. I know some machines can make these, but this seems alright. Likewise the jetsystem is almost silent with a very slight hum. I can actually hear the water more. I personally really like the powder drawer and I have seen no residual powder left at all. I don’t recall the pump turning on and off that much! I certainly notice my sisters LG doing that quite a lot. I think it might cut out at the fluffing stage just before the very final burst but not otherwise. The motor noise is similar to the Aqualtis but much quieter than the other standard Hotpoint inverter motors. My WD640 was quiet on low spins but could get noisy at 1400. Of course the Aqualtis noisy pump can ruin things but the Zanussi pump seems reasonable. Don’t worry about mentioning the Bosch at all, this is how the thread evolves. Is this the one? PaulC thanks for your comments on the Whirlpool, I actually really liked this machine and am glad my brother has it now. It was a no nonsense machine but like you say far to loud. Even the pump was noisy. I just couldn’t use it to wash at night. Have some vids for it to add later. 
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| Post# 298523 , Reply# 24 8/22/2008 at 09:21 (5,725 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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All I can say Nick is to go with your heart. I know I can drive myself mad trying to decide what to get. Of course nothing is guaranteed, you may get a Friday night machine that’s crap but then that can happen to any machine, even Miele! I haven’t had any balancing or noise problems yet but then it’s very early days. I suppose if you got something you were not sure about you could sell it in about a year on ebay! Hope whatever you get it’s good for you! BTW I got mine from Sainsburys online! They had the best price with delivery to a flat (Redhill appliance were fussy about that). I must say their customer service was very good! I had to wait because they said the machine was so popular it had run out.of stock. I decided to wait as it was what I really wanted and I rushed years ago and regretted it! The Hotpoint 18580 is doing fine, although she leaks at the front slightly. I do use her very rarely now but she is still standing there proudly amongst my collection. | ||
| Post# 300860 , Reply# 26 9/2/2008 at 14:57 (5,713 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Video's
Here are some videos I did yesterday. The first is an overview and the wash.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO robm's LINK | ||
| Post# 300861 , Reply# 27 9/2/2008 at 14:59 (5,713 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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The second, is the distribution rinse and interim spins. This may not work, otherwise go to my channel Rob CLICK HERE TO GO TO robm's LINK | ||
| Post# 300925 , Reply# 28 9/2/2008 at 17:36 (5,713 days old) by tuthill () | ||
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Nice machine, nice vids, and nice accent! LoL j/k | ||
| Post# 301024 , Reply# 29 9/3/2008 at 03:26 (5,713 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi Jed and thanks, although I absolutely hate my voice on film. It's rough old south London LOL! I must say I really love this machine, it's a lot of fun. Not sure if the distribution rinse or jet helps but who cares it's fun. BTW I did check and the the pump does not go on and off, the jet is virtually silent and the filling is very quiet. I hope you enjoy my vids, I will be adding the Whirlpool ones soon. Rob | ||
| Post# 301166 , Reply# 31 9/3/2008 at 16:25 (5,712 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi Jon, and thanks for your comments, I hope you are well. For those of you that are interested I have done a quick vid of my old Whirlpool. Rob CLICK HERE TO GO TO robm's LINK | ||
| Post# 301784 , Reply# 32 9/6/2008 at 07:37 (5,710 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK) | ||
hey rob
Nice machine, I see they have gone back to the old small hose for the jetsystem like mine :) my washer is from 2001, and it is still going strong, it is going to be 7 years old next month, and not a thing has gone wrong with it since we got it, and it is still as quiet as ever. I've started doing washing on 30'c now, because its more eco friendly and i find it does a good job and most of my clothes are lightly soiled. I find the jetsystem is very efficient at removing stains even at low temps so i find that a hot wash isn't needed anymore. I love my machine because its so flexible, and we have a 50'c wash as well. I have been using Tesco Colours Tablets in it for my coloured washes which i am quite impressed by the cleaning performance and they are good value £2.75 for a big box of 48 tablets. The whites get Surf Tropical Tablets, because they smell really nice and do a good job of getting the whites clean. £2 for a box of 18 (9 washes) from Asda and Softener i'm using Lenor Spring. I hope you are happy with your purchase rob, and my your machine have a very long life 
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| Post# 301949 , Reply# 33 9/7/2008 at 07:34 (5,709 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi Zanussi Lover Thanks for your very kind message! Mine won't get a huge amount of use so I hope it goes on for many years to come. Thanks for the note on the powder as well! One final note is that I tried the Easy Iron option and Extra rinse option (not together) on the rinse only cycle. The rinse only is based on a cottons full 3 rinses. Extra rinse adds a rinse and does only 1 min 500 spins. The Easy Iron option does 5 rinses (yes 5) with no interim spins just fluffing. The final spin is then done in ever increasing pulses with two final bursts at 900 for about 10 seconds each. Things are more damp but are pretty crease free. | ||
| Post# 302132 , Reply# 35 9/8/2008 at 06:35 (5,708 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK) | ||
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I agree
Bring back the innovative period of the 80s/90s Here is an innovative Zanussi Jetsystem advert from 1994 CLICK HERE TO GO TO zanussi_lover's LINK | ||
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