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Kelvinator Repairs, Success Finally!!!
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Post# 63467   4/17/2005 at 16:33 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

A nice warm spring day here finally gave me the energy to attempt the fix on my Kelvinator Golden Touch 500 Series. The boot in the outer tub had split, and not knowing anything about the mechanism on this I was always apprehensive about disassembly. With some good advice from Greg N, I spent the entire day doing a complete disassembly. Along with the bad boot, the pump leaked, the lid hinges were bad and the main hose from the outer tub had cracked. Its amazing how simple it really was after I got started on it all. Did 3 loads in it, white, darks, and bed sheets and all seems to be fine. Hurray! What a great feeling to know its a happy working machine again, so quiet and smooth running its almost silent! Thanks Greg for your help!




Post# 63468 , Reply# 1   4/17/2005 at 16:34 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Kelvinator Filling.................

Post# 63470 , Reply# 2   4/17/2005 at 16:35 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

The famous "Magic Minute".............

Post# 63471 , Reply# 3   4/17/2005 at 16:35 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Timer indicating the "Magic Minute"..........

Post# 63472 , Reply# 4   4/17/2005 at 16:37 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Lint filter installed.......but honestly it doest not catch much!!!

Post# 63473 , Reply# 5   4/17/2005 at 16:38 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Washing away, Kelvinator style..........

Post# 63474 , Reply# 6   4/17/2005 at 16:39 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Older, larger style lint filter from the 50's installed to see if it catches more lint...........It doesnt!! Notice the black 50's agitator cap too..........

Post# 63475 , Reply# 7   4/17/2005 at 16:40 (6,946 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Kelvinator Repairs, Success Finally

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What a awsome restoration. Just love it.
Best of Luck
Peter



Post# 63476 , Reply# 8   4/17/2005 at 16:41 (6,946 days old) by compwhiz128 ()        
WOW!!!

Kool machine dude i wish i had one :-(

Post# 63477 , Reply# 9   4/17/2005 at 16:41 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Kelvinator 3 belt system, pulleys and mechanism, motor, and pump. With a silent prayer to my guardian angel, its all nice and dry!

Post# 63480 , Reply# 10   4/17/2005 at 17:14 (6,946 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        
Great Pictures Jimmy!

Great job Jimmy!
That is such a cool machine. I also love the matching dryer you have! Gotta love sets!
Thanks for posting! And congrats on the smooth fix!
Brent


Post# 63490 , Reply# 11   4/17/2005 at 19:24 (6,946 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

Fascinating and beautiful!

Post# 63495 , Reply# 12   4/17/2005 at 19:34 (6,946 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

What year is this from?And when did Kelvinator switch to a "normal" agitator?












Post# 63507 , Reply# 13   4/17/2005 at 20:56 (6,946 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Congratulations; glad it's up and running again! Both of the lint filters are too cool...does the washwater actually burp up into the filter or is it just all that splashing that filters the lint (and causes it to jump right back out...LOL)?

I do have a few questions: What is the button to the right of the lid? Also, does your machine still spin out into the cabinet, or did Kelvinator incorporate an outer tub by this time? I listened to Greg's 1955 over the phone and the sound of the water spinning into the cabinet is truly amazing!

Now I really can't wait to see the '55 and '66 in action at the Convention! YAY for June 24th...

--Austin


Post# 63508 , Reply# 14   4/17/2005 at 20:58 (6,946 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Kelvinator switched to the Franklin mechanism (indexing tub and angel-wing agitator) when WCI swallowed them up in the late 1960's. I know they were the second appliance manufacturer that suffered that fate (Gibson was the first), but when was the exact year? 1968 comes to mind...

Post# 63513 , Reply# 15   4/17/2005 at 21:22 (6,946 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Congratulation Jimmy. Very nice. It looks like there's a short or delicate cycle on the knob and also an extra rinse. would you mind elaborating? Bob

Post# 63525 , Reply# 16   4/17/2005 at 22:54 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Bob, there is a short cycle, but this is a single speed machine. The "extra rinse" cycle is actually the rinse portion of the short cycle. The normal cycle also lists the rinse area as an "agitated soak"..........The button in the back right rear of the top is the off balance switch which pops up and shows a red line when the machine trips the switch........and it actually works pretty well.........

Post# 63535 , Reply# 17   4/18/2005 at 07:33 (6,946 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Window

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Jimmy Did the window come on this machine or did you update it with the window? (They all should have had windows)
Peter


Post# 63536 , Reply# 18   4/18/2005 at 08:09 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Peter, No, this was a lower end machine and didnt come with the window. Greg N. had given me the lid minus the glass (thanks Greg!) that he had gotten for parts at the farm in S. Dakota. I made a pattern for the glass using a pizza pan, took it to my local glass company and they cut a piece of glass for me to fit. The lid looked like someone had at one time walked on it and it was bent and out of form, so I just bent it back as best I could, used epoxy to reattach the mounts to it and its now as you see it. Kelvinators are very splashy washers but are so facinating to watch because of their orbital action, its wonderful to have the window to see inside as its running........

Post# 63540 , Reply# 19   4/18/2005 at 08:42 (6,946 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

so what year IS this machine?

Post# 63542 , Reply# 20   4/18/2005 at 08:53 (6,946 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Kelvinators make the BEST noise when washing! Congrats, Jimmy!

Post# 63545 , Reply# 21   4/18/2005 at 09:01 (6,946 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hey Thanks Peter! I should have taken some pics of my cat looking in the window when it was on. He loves to watch the washer.......BTW I believe this is a 1964 model, from the date that was stamped inside the timer console........

Post# 63550 , Reply# 22   4/18/2005 at 10:35 (6,946 days old) by lbcarguy ()        
Glad to hear the fix was a success

Hi Jimmy,

You were involved in this when we chatted Saturday. Glad to see it all worked out great. A very cool machine for sure.

MK in LBC


Post# 63552 , Reply# 23   4/18/2005 at 11:49 (6,946 days old) by mulls ()        
GIBSON

Westy referred to Gibson as the first washer company WCI bought out-apparently right before Kelvinator.What were Gibson washers like before being bought out?Anything special about them?
Tom


Post# 63562 , Reply# 24   4/18/2005 at 15:39 (6,945 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Gibson was another Franklin transmission machine.

Post# 63564 , Reply# 25   4/18/2005 at 16:02 (6,945 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Good work Jimmy - that pesky outer tub boot was askew on my Kelvi too. It wasn't difficult to tear down I gather, they are pretty easy compared to other machines really.

Beginning in 1958'ish, Kelvinator & ABC machines were built with a slightly larger cabinet and a round "splash tub" for spinning the water into from the wash/spin tub.

This is a quote from a short history of Cudell, Ohio that gives some good dating info for appliance companies - the link to the entire article is below.


"White Sewing Machine Co. diversified in 1956 and bought small appliance companies, including Standard Sewing (1965), the Hupp Corp. (1967), the Kelvintor Appliance Div. of American Motors (1968), and the appliance division of Westinghouse (1975).

The company's name was changed to White Consolidated Industries in 1964, reflecting its holdings of machinery, tools, household appliances, and valves.

White Consoldiated purchased numerous other major appliance competitors during the 1970s, including Philco, the Ford appliance division in 1977 and Frigidaire from General Motors in 1979."

Gibson was a pioneer in the refrigeration industry, formed in 1877 and bought out by the Hupp Corp. in 1956 who later merged with White Consolidated in 1967. I have never seen any literature for laundry machines predating the WCI time so they would have been Beam/Franklin/WCI from that point on. (The Hupp Corp also owned the easy Easy brand name, formerly owned by the Murray Corp and was swallowed by WCI as well.)

There was some odd brand out-sourcing going on at Kelvinator around 1968 or so, after the sale of Kelvinator by AMC, some Kelvi branded laundry stuff from that era was made by Norge and not WCI... Very strange, muddled history!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO gansky1's LINK


Post# 63570 , Reply# 26   4/18/2005 at 16:26 (6,945 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Seems Hamilton was acquired by WCI as well...someone scanned a brochure for a 1979 Hamilton line and sure enough, their portable machine screamed WCI! I've seen that machine made under a gazillion different brands (literally) so it really didn't surprise me too much...LOL

I thought a late 60's POD advertised a "Norginator" machine. There's also the case of Montgomery Ward machines in the 80's; if I'm not mistaken, "Signature" was Norge-made, while "Montgomery Ward" was WCI.


Post# 63575 , Reply# 27   4/18/2005 at 16:39 (6,945 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Also interesting...

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Perhaps a corporate mission that lives on today??

This is from the same article, White sewing machines bought out competitors but never improved their own product causing Sears to look for other suppliers...

Although production was increased, White neglected to improve his product. In 1924, White had a contract to supply Sears, Roebuck & Co. with their sewing machines. White Sewing machine Co. also bought out competitors, including the Theodore Kundtz Co., the King Sewing Machine Co. and the Domestic Sewing machine Co..

Since White Sewing Machine Co. didn't give Sears, Roebuck & Co. better quality sewing machines after buying-out their competitors, Sears, Roebuck & Co. bought from Japanese companies in 1956.


Post# 63596 , Reply# 28   4/18/2005 at 21:53 (6,945 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Great pictures Jimmy! Love that lint filter shot. I always said Kelvinator made the only agitator mounted self cleaning lint filter. It catches a bit of lint in the wash and splashes it back out into the tub during the rinse, now that's self cleaning! :)

Post# 63600 , Reply# 29   4/18/2005 at 22:07 (6,945 days old) by rickr (.)        
Kelvinator Splashilator :)

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Great machine Jimmy! Glad you could "bring it back to life".
I have never seen one of these in person,and will be glad if I can see one operate in June.
Thanks for sharing your another part of your wonderful collection.

PS love the "self cleaning" lint filter!! LOL!

Rick


Post# 63700 , Reply# 30   4/19/2005 at 19:30 (6,944 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
Filterflo

That sure is a nice kelvy congrats on the fix, and thankyou for sharing the pics with us.

Post# 64022 , Reply# 31   4/22/2005 at 22:19 (6,941 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        

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Now you'll never have to wory about fixing it again! Once you get inside one they are really simple machines that can be repaired out of your local hardware store.

Thanks for sharing Jimmy!

I always like a good magic minute!



Jet



Post# 64085 , Reply# 32   4/23/2005 at 16:35 (6,940 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Thanks Jetcone and alr for the kind words and responding to the pics and the posts. It always makes it extra special when others say how much they enjoy the pics. My next big job will be to attack the Philco Blades of Water washer........wish me luck!



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