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Thread Number: 1865
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| Post# 63735 4/20/2005 at 00:25 (6,945 days old) by shanonabc () | ||
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A place for all Aussie washing machine lovers to gte together and share cool stuff. Anyone is welcome | ||
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Post# 63774 , Reply# 2 4/20/2005 at 15:33 (6,945 days old) by toggleswitch  (New York City, NY) |
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F&P | ||
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Post# 63778 , Reply# 3 4/20/2005 at 16:19 (6,945 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Two processes are involved First, it "weighs" the load. The wash basket sits atop a drive coupler on the motor shaft. There's an air dome in the bottom of the basket. As it fills, air is trapped and causes the basket to float upward slightly to disengage from the drive coupler. The motor rotates slowly during fill, and pulses gently at first so it can determine inertia of the basket while it is still settled down on the coupler. When the basket has floated, the inertia changes and the motor drive electronics can sense the difference. The machine fills to the next highest of the five water levels after it senses the basket has floated. Then, it does two types of agitation strokes to test the resistance of the load. The lower agitator fins are flexible. to assist with the sensing process The frontload F&P dryer sold in the U.S. is made by Camco, a Canadian subsidiary of GE. The new toploader F&P dryer is imported from New Zealand, as are the washers. | ||
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Post# 63786 , Reply# 4 4/20/2005 at 17:19 (6,945 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Top-load dryer? | ||
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Post# 63796 , Reply# 5 4/20/2005 at 19:13 (6,944 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 63801 , Reply# 7 4/20/2005 at 19:37 (6,944 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) |
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Classic Aussies Seeing as this thread is about Aussie washers here is some pictures of great Aussie washers starting with my favourote, the Hoover square door front loader! 
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Post# 63804 , Reply# 8 4/20/2005 at 19:40 (6,944 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) |
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Another old favourote! Here is a Simpson Minimatic at 54cm square its sure is a cute little baby :) 
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Post# 63946 , Reply# 11 4/22/2005 at 00:07 (6,943 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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If F&P doesn't weigh the load, then what is the purpose of the machine testing for the basket to float up off the drive coupler? The point at which that happens varies depending on the size of the load and weight of the clothing as it absorbs water. A small load of synthetics vs. a heavy load of jeans or absorbant towels. There is no agitation during that time, no way for the motor to sense any load resistance via the flexible fins. The fins do come into play AFTER agitation begins, but I don't think before. There has to be some mechanism to determine the initial water level. If not by pseudo-weighing the load, then how does the machine make the determination? Any technical details on that from your friend at F&P? I had a GWL08 (SmartDrive) for five years (August 1999), and 'upgraded' to an IWL12 (Intuitive Eco) October 2004. On both machines, basket rotation pulses repeatedly during fill with slight and momentary surges in speed UNTIL the point at which the basket floats. After that point, smooth rotational momentum (without any pulses) is imparted only through the agitator, but it doesn't oscillate so I don't think the fins can be sensing anything. | ||
| Post# 63948 , Reply# 12 4/22/2005 at 00:22 (6,943 days old) by shanonabc () | ||
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There are two stages of agitation. A sensing stage and a mixing stage | ||
| Post# 63949 , Reply# 13 4/22/2005 at 00:23 (6,943 days old) by shanonabc () | ||
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The motor senses resistance through the fins. No info on that sorry! | ||
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Post# 63955 , Reply# 14 4/22/2005 at 01:58 (6,943 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Yes, I know there are two different agitation strokes used for water level sensing. As I said, I've had an F&P washer since 1999, and I've watched the cycle many times. I still think there's some sort of process that involves sensing the weight of the load. Try to get some more information from your friend, ask him if there's any significance in regards to water level when the machine is sensing at what point the basket floats.
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| Post# 64054 , Reply# 15 4/23/2005 at 08:23 (6,942 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
Hello everyone, frontloader812 you are not filling your machine correctly. I have a Miele 5.5kg and it fits the same amount of laundry as a 8kg toploader. We demonstrate this everyday in our showroom. We have a 5.5kg dry load and ask customers to guess the load size and they don't believe its a only 5.5kg. In my Miele I can easily fit a queen pair of cotton sheets 3 bath towels plus t-shirts and underwear, or 3 bath sheets, 2 bath towels, bath mat and other garments. My machine weighs the laundry and tells you how full the drum is and then tells you how much detergent to use for that load. We also invite customes to bring a load they normally wash in their top loader to see if it will fit in a front loader and they find they have room to spare! You realise you can't overload a frontloader, once the drum is stuffed full and you can still fit your hand in the machine is full. Give it a go! Frontloaders also take more time because they balance the 4 main factors temperature, time, detergent and mechanical action. If you lower one you increase another to get the same result. The longer cycles and higher temps in a frontloader allow you not need to soak garments overnight before washing. Don't use cold as your detergent doesn't work effectively a minimum of 30 degrees allows enzymes and the powder to fully dissolve, body oils also dissolve better at 40 or higher, especially for collar and cuff grime. | ||
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Post# 64143 , Reply# 17 4/24/2005 at 14:23 (6,941 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 64540 , Reply# 20 4/27/2005 at 17:20 (6,938 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 65274 , Reply# 22 5/3/2005 at 00:48 (6,932 days old) by shanonabc () | ||
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I am in the Central West near Dubbo and Orange | ||
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Post# 67968 , Reply# 24 5/24/2005 at 13:23 (6,911 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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