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Thread Number: 18690
New Dryer by Bosch: EcoLogixx 7 with Heat Pump Technology |
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Post# 303023 9/11/2008 at 11:57 (5,699 days old) by logixx  (Germany) |
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Bosch/Siemens have come out with a new dryer on September first: the EcoLogixx 7 with heat pump. It uses 40 % less energy than what is required for A-class energy efficiency – so approx. 1.5 kWh for a full cycle. It’s based upon their current line of dryers, sold under the Axxis name in the US. It’s got a 4 cu.ft. drum and all the regular cycles. It’s most interesting innovation is the self-cleaning condenser: during the drying cycle, water from the tank that collects the condensed water is flushed down through the condenser – up to four times during a drying cycle. It retails for 1100 Euros -> USD 1500. Here’s the link to a promotional video I copied from Bosch. It’s in German but I added a translation. Alex CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK 
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Post# 303040 , Reply# 1 9/11/2008 at 12:45 (5,699 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Here is the Siemens video | ||
| Post# 303042 , Reply# 2 9/11/2008 at 12:57 (5,699 days old) by electron800 () | ||
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well if they turn out to be unreliable at least we know we can use them as a plant holder =] Matt | ||
| Post# 303055 , Reply# 3 9/11/2008 at 13:48 (5,699 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 303063 , Reply# 5 9/11/2008 at 14:48 (5,699 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent) | ||
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Miele announced also the outcomming of their heat-pump dryer. You can download the manual already on the german site | ||
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Post# 303128 , Reply# 7 9/11/2008 at 20:27 (5,699 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Sounds like an interesting idea, especially for Europe where so many homes cannot have a vented dryer. Condenser dryers aren't a big draw in the United States, so wonder if they ever would be imported. Come to think of it don't think there is a American condenser dryer, nor has there been one in quite some time. GM/Frigidaire had them, as did several other brands, even recall one in the home ec class room at school, but even then the teacher hated the thing because it forced her to use water during water shortages. L. | ||
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Post# 303209 , Reply# 8 9/12/2008 at 05:24 (5,698 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Energy and time | ||
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Post# 303221 , Reply# 9 9/12/2008 at 06:30 (5,698 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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The differences are significant! But the technology is far more complicated, I'm worried that those dryers are more repair prone. I still wonder if it will pay for itself. Miele has a see through drawing on it's website, here it is. Askomiele, what is the model number of the Miele heatpumpdryer? I can't find any number on Miele's website. 
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Post# 303222 , Reply# 10 9/12/2008 at 06:40 (5,698 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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"what is the model number of the Miele heatpumpdryer? I can't find any number on Miele's website." I just tried to download it but it's not available... I'd be interested in the manual as well. According to the picture above - if you download the enlarged version - the model is: SOFTTRONIC T 8626 C WP. If you enter it into the search matrix it'll come up with the correct result but no link to download the manual. | ||
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Post# 303232 , Reply# 11 9/12/2008 at 08:49 (5,698 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 303244 , Reply# 12 9/12/2008 at 10:02 (5,698 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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VZUG Adora TLS WP Heat Pump Dryer....!!!!
Heres the VZUG version, apparently its the most efficient in its class!!!! (according to topten.info) and its very quiet, pumps the water into the drain, only a sponge filter to clean along with the fluff filter....one to watch me thinks!!! Boasting Pivoting Electronic Control Panel, 6kg Load, drum volume 103ltrs,Pump to Drain Facility or link drain with washer, Aprox 90mins to dry on cottons spun at ZUG 1600rpm. CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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Post# 303247 , Reply# 13 9/12/2008 at 10:06 (5,698 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Heat Pump Dryers...!!!
Heres the Heat Pump diagram for the VZUG Adora TSL WP, looks much simpler than other styles...
CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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| Post# 303261 , Reply# 14 9/12/2008 at 11:52 (5,698 days old) by rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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VZUG? Which shore does it hail from? | ||
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Post# 303262 , Reply# 15 9/12/2008 at 11:54 (5,698 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 303284 , Reply# 17 9/12/2008 at 14:47 (5,698 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Here's the cycle and consumption chart for the domestic V-Zug heat pump dryer and the instruction manual.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK 
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| Post# 303734 , Reply# 18 9/15/2008 at 11:10 (5,695 days old) by hoovermatic (UK) | ||
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Self Cleaning as someone who has owned a condensing dryer for years a self cleaning condenser is a dream come true! One of my most hated chores!! | ||
| Post# 303773 , Reply# 19 9/15/2008 at 14:10 (5,695 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Interesting thnks for posting this! hmmmm I wonder if the air flow could be diverted temprarily/on demand to have a 1- vented dryer 2- room air conditioner For the summer. Win-wIn for those that can not hang laundry out. | ||
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Post# 304183 , Reply# 20 9/16/2008 at 22:00 (5,694 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Miele Heat Pump Dryer | ||
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Post# 304472 , Reply# 21 9/18/2008 at 14:11 (5,692 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Post# 304571 , Reply# 22 9/19/2008 at 08:48 (5,691 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 304832 , Reply# 23 9/21/2008 at 05:34 (5,689 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 310860 , Reply# 26 10/22/2008 at 05:10 (5,658 days old) by aussie-plugs (Melbourne, Australia) |
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Heatpump hot water in Oz? Hi Brisnat, What product is that? My dad was involved in that technology in the 80's, but I thought it had completely died. There's a Japanese firm that's doing heat-pump drying too ... can't remember which one though ... so there seems to be a trend to look for more energy efficient methods. Nick | ||
| Post# 310926 , Reply# 28 10/22/2008 at 12:08 (5,658 days old) by favorit () | ||
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Self clean feature : how does it work ? Periodical reverse blowing ? AEG WP trockner came out on swiss market earlier than anywhere else, cause there were the ones by schulthess.ch and v-zug.ch . I bet the AEG WP is made by Therma Carlo | ||
| Post# 310932 , Reply# 29 10/22/2008 at 12:24 (5,658 days old) by favorit () | ||
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mielabor - T 478 G I guess they have discontinued because of - latest euronorms about safety in gaz devices . - It didn' to go undercounter/stacked | ||
| Post# 310943 , Reply# 30 10/22/2008 at 13:13 (5,658 days old) by mielabor () | ||
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Well, as far as I know it was discontinued because of disappointing sales for this machine. Notwithstanding its obvious advantage in energy efficiency, people seemed to be put off by the higher price and the need for installing a gas supply to the machine. | ||
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Post# 310960 , Reply# 31 10/22/2008 at 14:01 (5,658 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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"Self clean feature : how does it work? Periodical reverse blowing?" Look at my YouTube videos. The dryer flushes the condensor with condensed water. It's the second and third video in my "Dryers" playlist. CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK | ||
| Post# 310976 , Reply# 33 10/22/2008 at 14:40 (5,658 days old) by favorit () | ||
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Alex - habe kein YouTube heute bad wireless connex . I' m back in the past ,,, to the 56kbps age !! LOL | ||
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Post# 310978 , Reply# 34 10/22/2008 at 14:46 (5,658 days old) by aussie-plugs (Melbourne, Australia) |
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Thanks, Nathan You can tell I live in an apartment and have never bought a hot water service! I didn't realise heat pump technology had made it to market. Back in the 80's, it was a hard slog to get anybody to pay attention because fuel (gas) was cheap. It's good to see an idea that was initially ahead of its time finally gain acceptance. Nick | ||
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Post# 310979 , Reply# 35 10/22/2008 at 14:47 (5,658 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 310980 , Reply# 36 10/22/2008 at 14:52 (5,658 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Zug
That was the great feature I noticed with the V-Zug heat Pump dryer, no filter condenser to take out & clean, just a drop down door with an air clean filter sponge!!! AND, a non vented dryer that doesnt sound like a train with all those blower fans!!!... I do like the way the Siemens flushes the used water through, well thought out!!!, nice vids, Mike | ||
| Post# 310989 , Reply# 38 10/22/2008 at 15:17 (5,658 days old) by favorit () | ||
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V-Train that doesn't sound like a train *LOL* Mike, I do believe it....with such a price that makes miele best trade off price/performance *LOL* Anyway - as I live quite close to the swiss border - I was told also Zug dishwashers are very reliable. | ||
| Post# 310991 , Reply# 39 10/22/2008 at 15:28 (5,658 days old) by favorit () | ||
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Rolls vented are faster. sure. but never have one in the kitchen ...fancy run a load while frying fishes ... Fishor scent forever ! *LOL* | ||
| Post# 311001 , Reply# 40 10/22/2008 at 16:09 (5,658 days old) by rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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favorit That's quite true, I had forgotten about that! The condenser drier is in the kitchen and the vented drier is actually in the spare room. No, on second thoughts I'll stick with condenser driers LOL | ||
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Post# 311015 , Reply# 41 10/22/2008 at 16:56 (5,658 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 311965 , Reply# 44 10/28/2008 at 14:32 (5,652 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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