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Post# 309017   10/13/2008 at 05:35 (5,673 days old) by favorit ()        

Saw them on titanwashingmachine.com. I' m very curious about their removable drum and about its lock/unlock mechanism.
Does anyone own or have used these machines ?

Glad to see new real british machines,as now Llandudno made hotpoints are in.died.sits and hoovers have been candied.
Just about CANDY : such a silly name but ... MIELE in italian means HONEY, so if 2+2=4 .. ;-))

Carlo





Post# 309337 , Reply# 1   10/14/2008 at 22:17 (5,671 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I have seen pictures of these machines as well and I LOVE their design! It makes so much sense for the washer tub to be the laundry basket! And all those wild colors!!! YAY!!!! I wish such a machine was brought to the US, I'd buy it in a heartbeat! The tub is not locked in place at all if that is what you're referring to, rather, the tub is angled thus it naturally falls into place and stays there!

And btw, those metal supports in the drum are actually water pipes, they circulate the wash water by showering it over the load through the drum baffles! Similar to the LG washers I believe...


Post# 309338 , Reply# 2   10/14/2008 at 22:17 (5,671 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Here's a pic showing the water pipes in the tub:

Post# 309340 , Reply# 3   10/14/2008 at 22:24 (5,671 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I tried contacting them to see if they had planned on or thought about ever introducing this machine in the US but it seems their site isn't working properly and won't let me send them anything! DRAT!!!

Post# 309342 , Reply# 4   10/14/2008 at 22:36 (5,671 days old) by tuthill ()        
Drat!

A removable washer tub, why didn't I think of that!

Post# 309344 , Reply# 5   10/14/2008 at 22:39 (5,671 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
TITAN washers

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I don't understand what is the benefit of having removeable wash tubs? I don't see the point!
Can anyone comment on the reliability of these machines?
Peter



Post# 309347 , Reply# 6   10/14/2008 at 22:46 (5,671 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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The benefit is that you don't need to transfer the load into the washer from a basket and instead taking the load out piece by piece and dropping something on the floor or plopping a basket under the washer door to unload into and reload into the dryer, you just pull out the washer's tub and plop it in front of the dryer to unload! Plus you can have as many tubs as you want, it seems to come with three, but more can be ordered such that you can have every load all loaded and ready to go when the washer stops!

Post# 309348 , Reply# 7   10/14/2008 at 22:48 (5,671 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I know one of our members has one, but it was one of the first if I'm mistaken? They pulled them from the market for a while just like they did the Dyson Contrarotator and plan on relaunching it with some modifications is my understanding....

Post# 309349 , Reply# 8   10/14/2008 at 22:50 (5,671 days old) by a440 ()        

I think these are such cool machines!
Seems like they are reliable, since they are still on the market.
It would be cool to see them in the USA.
I think the one advantage would be to being able to remove the inner tub, would be for cleaning. You can't imagine what builds up between tubs over years of use. And in very heavy use, could build crap in a few months. Gunk! I sometimes think that the "Gunk" is the reason for so many failures in front loading washers. From the pump, to less than average cleaning since new. Stuff sticks..... Human's have so much oil in their skin, not to mention what we pick up in the environment these days.
Brent


Post# 309356 , Reply# 9   10/15/2008 at 00:11 (5,671 days old) by fredfred9633 ()        

having different colored tubs is awesome
its like having some sort of legal drug
jkjkjkjk


Post# 309357 , Reply# 10   10/15/2008 at 00:48 (5,671 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I wish they also offered magenta!

Post# 309363 , Reply# 11   10/15/2008 at 04:03 (5,671 days old) by favorit ()        
water pipes

Jamie,
those aren't pipes, cause the drum pin+shaft should be a (rotating) pipe and an empty shaft in the meanwhile.
This is a big issue, as it is a stressed component. Fancy that Miele claims they use drum shafts as thick as car ones

These steel things simply mean to distribute on a wider surface the stress contact btw steel (pin) and plastic (drum).

IMHO the pin is the most delicate part of this machine either for the above reason, either for the need of a shaft-matched shape. Wear an tear can change pin and shaft shapes and when they don't match anymore here is the disaster

Tilted drum design here is required in order to have an effective match pin+shaft, thanks to the load weight.
On the other side bearing has to work also with axial stress; distribution before spinning can be harder to achieve

Carlo


Post# 309364 , Reply# 12   10/15/2008 at 04:26 (5,671 days old) by favorit ()        
Gunk

Brent,
you' re right as molds&mildews are invading euro washers too.
Here the 60ies and 70ies washers were used mostly to do whites with boiling water. In the 80ies started the 60°C/140°F eco setting fashion. Then the new millennium began with warm water
Now ultimate fashion says COLD WATER. In the future we' ll put some crushed ice with clothes in the drum and keep (martini flavored) detergent bottles in the fridge *LOL*
In new machines manuals say to run hot washes now and then to keep the drum clean ... never read before!

I ignore ads and still use hot water when needed
I run all my touch-skin-coloureds (towels,socks,underwear, capilene items, swimming pool gear; lights and darks all togheder) @ 60°C with black fabrics detergent and black fabric oxy bleach.
Black towels are still black, don' t smell of wet-cloth-left-in-the-bag and don' t know what's gunk

Carlo



Post# 309378 , Reply# 13   10/15/2008 at 08:59 (5,671 days old) by soapnsuds ()        
Gunk

Can I just say that I am COMPLETELY mystified at the claims of gunk and smells that people say they have in their front load washers. I see the new machines now even have "tub clean" cycles, you can also buy tablets to throw into an empty machine to clean the tub.... I have owned front load washers for over 23 years and I have never once, had any type of smell come out of my machines. I almost WANT a smelly washer so I can feel like part of the crowed! ;)
I always leave the door open a crack and that's that. Maybe people aren't using enough detergent to cut the grease in their clothes and clean it from the machine?


Post# 309421 , Reply# 14   10/15/2008 at 13:39 (5,671 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Have one of the original machines from 2001, when they where first released, super machine, simple to programme & operate, drum slips out easy enough and is light enough to carry!!!

The early reliabilty issues have been sorted and the bugs ironed out so to speak, it is selling well abroad apparently but people have long memories and remember the previous models and bad press it had!!

The drum sits in its place by the metal bracket on the back of the removable drum, (blue drum comes with it) this bracket also power pumps the water through to the vanes in the drum!! heres some pics, so you can see....


Post# 309424 , Reply# 15   10/15/2008 at 14:16 (5,670 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Inside

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The outer drum is polyplastic, which houses the inner metal sleeve, which the removable drum sits in, and has the vanes for the wash water to fall back into the shower pump sump down below, which the removable drum sits in

Post# 309426 , Reply# 16   10/15/2008 at 14:22 (5,670 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Titan

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Post# 309438 , Reply# 17   10/15/2008 at 14:59 (5,670 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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It seems very very complex to me! No wonder the early machines had reliability issues! How have they sorted them out? Does the new version still pump water to the tub vanes? Is it always pumping water through the vanes when there is water in the tub or only at certain times? This washer is FASCINATING!!!!!!

Post# 309444 , Reply# 18   10/15/2008 at 16:01 (5,670 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Which? Magazine...

...commented at the time, that the machine on test had out-of-balance / vibration issues, as well as (in Which?'s view) problems with the way the internal wiring was routed.

I think the modern Mieles look cosmetically quite similar to the Titan.


Post# 309448 , Reply# 19   10/15/2008 at 16:54 (5,670 days old) by favorit ()        
v-zug

Thanks Mike 4 the pics. Any news about the adora sql ?
Has someone had to do with schulthess.ch or other swiss machines ?

Carlo


Post# 309493 , Reply# 20   10/15/2008 at 22:16 (5,670 days old) by a440 ()        
Awesome Pictures Mike!

Is this a daily drive for you?
What do you think about it's cleaning ability?
Brent


Post# 309513 , Reply# 21   10/15/2008 at 23:58 (5,670 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Such a cool washer - I remember when you got this, Mike. I also remember the reports of the drum getting loose in high-speed spin ;-(

I love the power-shower system, you have to hand it to them for keeping at the design and making it work.


Post# 309529 , Reply# 22   10/16/2008 at 04:11 (5,670 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

My question is how fast does it spin? I thought the big push for stainless steel in these newfangled FL's, is that it will not hold up to the high speeds? thanks alr2903

Post# 309580 , Reply# 23   10/16/2008 at 11:59 (5,670 days old) by favorit ()        
alr2903

1200 rpm - is seems to be a well built machine, even a little heavier than mieles (1000 and 4000 series look like copies of the titan-look)

In such a hot&cold fill machine the "Bio-Step/Enzyme Activator-electronic" is a very interesting feature that allows the machine to work well also with enzyme based detergents (who require stepped heat up and not suddenly really hot water)

Carlo

Specs here :


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Post# 309630 , Reply# 24   10/16/2008 at 16:41 (5,669 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Carlo, TYVM, I wondered about the "polypropylene" basket. i appreciate your response. alr2903

Post# 309895 , Reply# 25   10/17/2008 at 17:36 (5,668 days old) by hotpointwf220 ()        

would be nice to see vids of a titan on a full cycle.


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