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Thread Number: 19202
DW Auto programmes : do they always work ? |
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Post# 309918 , Reply# 7 10/17/2008 at 20:08 (5,663 days old) by logixx  (Germany) |
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We have a B/S/H, too, which has two Auto cycle: 55-65° and 65-75°. I usually use the regular Auto wash for most loads. It's interesting to see how the DW alters the cycle. The pre-wash is always heated on the Auto cycles. Nothing special there: it'll either do a pre-wash or continue right into the main wash. The main wash on Auto 55-65° usually starts out on medium water pressure. Sometimes it'll go back and forth between low and medium. It usually ends with some minutes of high pressure spraying. It once happened that I ran the machine empty to clean it and, after skipping the pre-wash, the machine decided to wash both baskets simultaneously - I guess to save time on this low-soil load. On Auto 65-75° it focuses on exclusively washing the lower basket for some minutes and the pressure it on high throughout the wash. At the end of both the pre- and main wash the pumps alternate between spraying and draining. I once heard the DW doing two interim rinses due to high-sudsing detergent. Usually, rinsing is only a purge, then the interim rinse, which is sometimes follow by a second purge. The final rinse is always low water level and low pressure. varioSpeed is a really nice feature - it literary turns the clock back by more than a decade: lots of water, heat and pressure clean in little time. | ||
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Post# 309920 , Reply# 8 10/17/2008 at 20:16 (5,663 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 310012 , Reply# 14 10/18/2008 at 09:07 (5,662 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Don't know about the new Blomberg's Smart Touch reliability. Our consumer magazine tested Blomberg dishwashers twice before and quite liked them. What I really liked about our AEG dishwasher was the upper rack. Since it was tilted, I could fit large plates (for pizza) in the bottom, while it would still hold long-stemmed glasses in the top. The Siemens will either fit tall items in the bottom OR top. I know they have this wire for holding glasses in the bottom but I need that space for plates. I can see this being even more of a problem with the cutlery tray, now. Other than that, I do not miss the AEG. It's 60 minute fan-assisted drying cycle never dried as well as the 17 minute dry of our Siemens. @ Rolls rapide: I think the final rinse is low pressure because the fill level is so low so there isn't enough water to recirculate at high speed. varioSpeed does a full-pressure rinse but also fills to the max (and also heats during the interim rinse). Alex | ||
| Post# 310028 , Reply# 15 10/18/2008 at 10:45 (5,662 days old) by rudin1969 (Italy) | ||
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The new German consumer magazine DW test rates the new Miele G1343 highest, whereas according to Which? the Activewater Bosch with Cutlery tray does not qualify as a Best Buy. If I'm not mistaken, the 'adjust sensor wash' function on Miele DWs raises the temperature to 55 degrees | ||
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Post# 310029 , Reply# 16 10/18/2008 at 10:52 (5,662 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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I have an older Bosch and have to say I prefer for most loads the non-automatic 50°C cycle. It has an automatic 55°-65° cycle that has let me down sometimes with cloudy glasses on slightly soiled loads. Though it always performs a cold interim rinse before the final rinse, I think the skip of a purge is to blame for. It has also been unreliable if only a few items are badly incrusted on an otherwise rather clean load. I also experienced trouble with the low preassure final rinse leading to a frozen-up upper spray arm and leaving a mess of rinse aid on the door. But the type of detergent I use seems to make a huge difference on both problems. So on balance it`s a good dishwasher, but automatic programmes and turbity sensors are quite unnecessary for my needs. | ||
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Post# 310048 , Reply# 18 10/18/2008 at 13:05 (5,662 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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Post# 310067 , Reply# 20 10/18/2008 at 16:38 (5,662 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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| Post# 310206 , Reply# 22 10/19/2008 at 10:49 (5,661 days old) by rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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My 4 year old Bosch doesn't have VarioSpeed as such, just a 'reduce time' option. Would this boost water levels and spray pressure? I've used it in the past, but never noticed much difference. | ||
| Post# 310208 , Reply# 23 10/19/2008 at 11:17 (5,661 days old) by favorit () | ||
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Rolls Check on the manual - If it says that *reduce time* involves little higher comsumpions, probably it does boost | ||
| Post# 310212 , Reply# 25 10/19/2008 at 11:56 (5,661 days old) by rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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just say and I will tell you! Okay, I'm asking! Thanks. | ||
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Post# 310215 , Reply# 26 10/19/2008 at 12:16 (5,661 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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We have the Reduced Time option, too. Actually, they call it 1/2 Load. It does not cause more water or heat to be involved. When I use ECO 50° with 1/2 Load it'll cut the pre-wash. I have not noticed much of a difference adding 1/2 Load to any of the Auto cycles - but then I don't sit around in the kitchen for two hours listening to the dishwasher. I once read, varioSpeed increases consumption by 25%. Here's a chart showing energy consumption in kWh of our Siemens. The two ** mean entering water had approx. 25°C (during the summer). Oh, and I have Intensive Drying enabled. 
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| Post# 310494 , Reply# 30 10/20/2008 at 17:02 (5,660 days old) by favorit () | ||
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thanks 4 all yours suggestions. Had same Rolls' issues with Zan'olux DW and 2 fridges too. Just seen that BOL miele costs LESS than MOL BSH, so ... Carlo | ||
| Post# 312533 , Reply# 31 10/31/2008 at 19:42 (5,649 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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