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Thread Number: 19239
Getting All Modern - Hotpoint 9560 |
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| Post# 310223 10/19/2008 at 13:43 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
We certainly have been busy bees with Hotpoints lately and this week was no exception. We spent a wondefully long weekend and picked up our Microprofile 1300 De Luxe from Mathews in Cardiff. As ever it needed a few bits doing to it which we relished getting our hands dirty for although Paul took charge this time and did the majority with Mathew. I was more than prepared to polish and refine the machine armed with polishes and creams. Paul got to practise his bearing changes afetr the previous owners ran it into the ground using it with only 1 arm of the spider attached to the drum. Thankfully all it needed was new bearings and spider to start with or so we thought..... Just to make sure it ran electronically we ran a fast spin (1400 - and more about that in a minute) with the drum belt disconnected and managed to blow up the FHP motor completely with the armature breaking into chunks and exploding - lessons learnt there! The machine is badged as a 1300rpm but they were programmed and abled to spin at 1400rpm according to the service manual and actual machine display. This machine is dated July 1986 which makes it one of the first Hotpoint Microprofiles off the productuion line as they were introduced a couple of months before in May 1986. Funnily enough IIRC Hoover seemed to think their Logic 1300 was the fastest UK machine introduced in 1987 - it really is IIRC from the Timeline on the previous Hoover Website but this goes to show that if my rememberances are correct about Hoover then Hotpoint were way ahead with the fastest 1200rpm + UK made washer spin speed and a year or two before that. Perhaps those with the appropriate service manuals for Hoover can clarify this? Anyways heres some pics, and restoration pics will follow as we are able to. Rob and Paul 
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| Post# 310224 , Reply# 1 10/19/2008 at 13:43 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310225 , Reply# 2 10/19/2008 at 13:44 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310226 , Reply# 3 10/19/2008 at 13:44 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310227 , Reply# 4 10/19/2008 at 13:45 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310229 , Reply# 5 10/19/2008 at 13:46 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310230 , Reply# 6 10/19/2008 at 13:47 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310236 , Reply# 7 10/19/2008 at 14:44 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310237 , Reply# 8 10/19/2008 at 14:44 (5,660 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 310239 , Reply# 9 10/19/2008 at 15:00 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310240 , Reply# 10 10/19/2008 at 15:02 (5,660 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 310291 , Reply# 11 10/19/2008 at 18:13 (5,660 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK) | ||
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This is the same model my mum's friend used to have! Never got to see it on, but always loved seeing it in the kitchen! Unbelievable that the essential design lasted for well over a decade! Jon | ||
Post# 310376 , Reply# 13 10/20/2008 at 03:54 (5,659 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint MicroProfile
Looking good there, had forgotten how nice the display panel is, I got one for my Aunt Alice in 1987, Hotpoint & Hoover where fighting the "Spin Speed" wars for yrs although Hotpoint had the 1100rpm covered in 1970.... I dont remember the Hoover promoting being first for 1300, I do remember they produced a lot of training aids promoting the fact of their 1300 spin lasting a couple of mins and Hotpoint being 11secs, although Hotpoint promoted their machine as being stable on higher spins as most of the bulk of the water is removed with the lower spin and 11secs was that all that was needed to "Fling" the final amount of water out of the clothes on the "Profile Spin" Now for the matching dryer!!!, Cheers, Mike | ||
| Post# 310447 , Reply# 14 10/20/2008 at 13:16 (5,659 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Hi Darren.... tonights installment will follow very shortly! She is a beauty and a machine that I have always been fond of ever since they were introduced - a smart looking machine with an air of complexity about it. Cheers Paul | ||
| Post# 310458 , Reply# 19 10/20/2008 at 14:16 (5,659 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and a better picture of the 9344, but in Polar white... 
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| Post# 310470 , Reply# 22 10/20/2008 at 14:51 (5,659 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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model 9536A Electronic 1000 De Luxe in 'Spring Almond'... 
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| Post# 310471 , Reply# 23 10/20/2008 at 14:54 (5,659 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and, to show a 'W' version machine, the 9530W Electronic 1000 Plus - this machine was rolling off the production line in 1986 too! 
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| Post# 310477 , Reply# 25 10/20/2008 at 15:32 (5,659 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 310618 , Reply# 28 10/21/2008 at 07:29 (5,658 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK) | ||
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Having said all that, Rob and Paul's machine may just need a new drum spider which is still available. This is interchangable between the earlier and later inner drum types. I imagine finding a new 1300rpm GEC motor would be much more difficult! Tom. | ||
| Post# 310663 , Reply# 31 10/21/2008 at 12:17 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Here we go then... front panel off and unfastening the heater wires, prior to removal of the front of the outer drum... 
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| Post# 310667 , Reply# 33 10/21/2008 at 12:33 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Upon removal of the drum, the sight that met our eyes was quite honestly ridiculous. Word is that this is probably down to the use of liquid detergent, as well as limescale removal tablets. The result is that the drum spider has rotted away.... 
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| Post# 310668 , Reply# 34 10/21/2008 at 12:34 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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close up of the right hand fracture... 
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| Post# 310669 , Reply# 35 10/21/2008 at 12:35 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and a close up of the left hand break... 
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| Post# 310670 , Reply# 36 10/21/2008 at 12:36 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and again of the spider... 
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| Post# 310671 , Reply# 37 10/21/2008 at 12:37 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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an empty machine, in readiness for bearing replacement... 
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| Post# 310673 , Reply# 39 10/21/2008 at 12:42 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and the old spider in bits, along with the removed additional bolts and plates from the front of the old drum... 
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| Post# 310674 , Reply# 40 10/21/2008 at 12:45 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Here is the reason why the old drum cant be used again! the unbalanced forces and lack of support had torn the drum, where one of the spider legs attached... 
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| Post# 310675 , Reply# 41 10/21/2008 at 12:45 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and from the other side... 
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| Post# 310676 , Reply# 42 10/21/2008 at 12:47 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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replacement bearings inserted... 
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| Post# 310680 , Reply# 44 10/21/2008 at 12:58 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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replacement drum added - sits nice and centred... 
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| Post# 310681 , Reply# 45 10/21/2008 at 13:00 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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held on at the back... 
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| Post# 310682 , Reply# 46 10/21/2008 at 13:01 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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drum front back on and door seal reapplied... 
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| Post# 310683 , Reply# 47 10/21/2008 at 13:05 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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front panel waiting to be reattached - cleaned up really well, with pretty much perfect enamelling... 
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| Post# 310684 , Reply# 48 10/21/2008 at 13:06 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and the back...of the front..... 
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| Post# 310685 , Reply# 49 10/21/2008 at 13:08 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and the extended top, with an extra 15ish centimetres of depth to cater for machines not kept under a worksurface... 
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| Post# 310686 , Reply# 50 10/21/2008 at 13:11 (5,658 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and finally for tonight... the ratings plate on the back. Some more piccies tomorrow. Cheers Paul 
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| Post# 310689 , Reply# 51 10/21/2008 at 13:20 (5,658 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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WOW! A machine I'd love to have :) What a shame that you needed to replace the drum! Anyway, really an interesting reading&watching! | ||
| Post# 310717 , Reply# 52 10/21/2008 at 15:29 (5,658 days old) by vivalalavatrice () | ||
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GREAT Job guys! I did the same on a Zoppas model (Zanussi group) just few weeks ago and was not a soft job!! Then, my dears, the satisfaction is higher than the wearying!! COMPLIMENTS!!! Diomede | ||
| Post# 310857 , Reply# 55 10/22/2008 at 04:33 (5,657 days old) by hoovermad (England) | ||
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Hiya. Just seen ur post n dont know if this is any use but have just had come in a Hotpoint 9545. It does have the wide lip drum on it. I'll hold on to it for a few days, give me a shout if its any use Bjorn | ||
| Post# 310967 , Reply# 57 10/22/2008 at 14:28 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Well - time for the final set of piccies... there is only a few of them - I did think that there were more of them, but I was wrong. front of the machine replaced - just awaiting the facia.... 
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| Post# 310969 , Reply# 58 10/22/2008 at 14:35 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and facia reapplied... 
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| Post# 310971 , Reply# 59 10/22/2008 at 14:35 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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here is the default status of the digital display, before any programmes have been selected... 
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| Post# 310972 , Reply# 60 10/22/2008 at 14:36 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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a couple of programme variations... 
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| Post# 310973 , Reply# 61 10/22/2008 at 14:37 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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slightly different... 
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| Post# 310974 , Reply# 62 10/22/2008 at 14:38 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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complete with instruction book and installation booklet... 
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| Post# 310995 , Reply# 64 10/22/2008 at 15:51 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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middle facia, with programme guide... 
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| Post# 310996 , Reply# 65 10/22/2008 at 15:52 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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digital display and control buttons... 
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| Post# 310997 , Reply# 66 10/22/2008 at 15:53 (5,657 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and finally, a piccy of the machine in store with the 1701 Liberator dryer above and the 95620 to the left... 
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| Post# 311644 , Reply# 70 10/26/2008 at 16:36 (5,653 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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The old drum was reCYCLED..... | ||
| Post# 311647 , Reply# 71 10/26/2008 at 17:10 (5,653 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom) | ||
Hey Rob Just realized that you've got an indesit, ive always wanted to ask how do you get on with it? washing and rinsing, spinning etc and noise? Thanks for the pic, im asking as i may get one when im without a machine, i dont want servis (hated it)(plus bankrupcy) or haier but theyre not sure what to get? Whats better in your opinion Beko or indesit? | ||
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Post# 311946 , Reply# 72 10/28/2008 at 11:03 (5,651 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Indesit!
What is the scoop on these new indesit's models. I am thinking of purchasing the splendide combo 7100 that looks just like it. But if you tell me the repair record isn't good, I may think twice. Thanks Peter splendide.com/splendide_WDC7100XC... | ||
| Post# 312032 , Reply# 73 10/28/2008 at 18:13 (5,651 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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How long is your bargepole Pete?
Indesit, All I can say is that Electrolux machines i.e Zanussi, Bendix, Tricity Bendix have far better machines to offer in terms of performance and build quality for the same price. Washing is not too hot, rinsing seems fine which puts the much claimed `it takes high water levels to rinse properly' opionions to mean nothing. I find it wastes far too much water for the rinses, lower levels would be perfection and save prescious minutes off the already ridiculous wash times. Hotpoint managed a superior wash in around 1 to 2 hours in the 80s and wasted way less water doing so. I would hold on for something else to be honest, the build quality is rather shocking and the electronics are far from desirable. The soap drawer front has a rather nasty habit of snapping off the drawer itself when pulled out for cleaning which has to be done weekly due to the mess thats usually left in there from softener build up and mould issues, Have you considered getting a Zanussi washerdryer shipped over? Dunno how cost effective it would be but you would certainly be amazed at how much better they are compared to the likes of LG and Splendide. Would it be a possibilty of finding someone shipping stuff over who would say rent out a portion of the container to put a decent machine on for you? Rob Our vintage Zanussi washerdryer, 20 years old and still works like new... Build quality has not really changed a great deal either. 
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| Post# 312052 , Reply# 74 10/28/2008 at 19:45 (5,651 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK) | ||
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Another vote for Zanussi Those FL1012 and WD1012 machines just seem to keep going forever. I know several people who have them and say they have never gone wrong with over 20 years of daily use. Tom. | ||
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Post# 312054 , Reply# 75 10/28/2008 at 19:52 (5,651 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Indesit / Splendide
Hi Rob, I couldn't really purchase anything else that is not setup for our voltage. I am so disappointed in the fact that over here in usa they make all junk with steam and other BS options. But nobody will make a combo. It seems anything that can be purchased here in terms of combos is ng. Well I will have to do more research and if I cannot come up with something I will probably buy a frigmore and live without a dryer. Thanks, Peter | ||
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