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Post# 317065   11/26/2008 at 16:13 (5,623 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 317078 , Reply# 1   11/26/2008 at 17:23 (5,623 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
washer/dryer???

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I can not for the life of me see where it states that this unit is an all in one or not.

Post# 317085 , Reply# 2   11/26/2008 at 19:02 (5,622 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
I think it is just a washer.

I also notice that the outer tub seems to be octagonal, and the with the twin bearings, I thought Staber (???).

The machine seems to be destined for various countries, so maybe it originates from the Far East?

Seems a funny way of going about their publicity.


Post# 317103 , Reply# 3   11/27/2008 at 03:06 (5,622 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

I'm even more convinced that it is a machine from Dyson!

My points:
1- The logotype is the same as Dyson
2- The UK electric plug is shown everywere
3- The £ pound sybol is everywhere too
4- Arial Extreme Gel is sold only in the UK as I know (I bought mine there LOL)
5- 200 machines are going to be sold in the UK and only 100 in the other "countries"
6- The website is there only to create hype on the market and this is typical of Dyson

Anyway, I wouldn't want that machine even for free (well, if it was free, maybe yes)... there are many things that I don't like, like the detergent "pods"... I currently use 4 different detergents according to the load type, I guess you guys do the same! Plus liquid doesn't clean as well as any powder I know of, even cheap ones outperform the best liquids I tried (and suds less!)
Also, the 10 Kg capacity is bogus, I bet that at best the machine can hold confortably some like 7 Kg of laundry, otherwise it'll be cramped.
Finally, no thanks, I'm not going to "turn to 15°c"!
Oh, did I mention that I like to see the clothes tumble on the washer? ;)

The only feature that I like is that it preheats the water to room temperature, even if that would be useless at my place because we have underfloor heating and cold water comes out at around 30°C because of the buired radiators... and what about a hot fill too that I could connect to solar collectors?!

What do you think guys?


Post# 317105 , Reply# 4   11/27/2008 at 03:40 (5,622 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Well it just gets more interesting!!!, do you know what, I think its the new DYSON, the language, style of PR, even font and links could make it so, even the worldwide networks!!!

In a time when every other manufacturer is struggling, and cutting back on their product line, never mind what makes up the contents of a machine, it will need a more than a steely drum to launch this next year....on the otherhand, people like "NEW"

Interesting concept, cross between Dyson (bearings, drum , suspension) & Monotub Titan (slide out drum and separate water heating tank (ballast), those slide outs will have to be sturdy to take the weight of 10kg of cottons when damp!!

Not sure about the dispensers, I`d want a choice of detergents, not all from the one (assuming) same dispenser!!! One To Watch for Sure...!!!


Post# 317151 , Reply# 5   11/27/2008 at 11:09 (5,622 days old) by favorit ()        
Useless detergent dispenser

I do agree with Mike and Gabriele, also some household miele (liquidwash) have this useless gadget

This makes sense in commercial machines that have to cope with several batches a day. They have 5/6 tanks that hold the various products that are pumped in the right amount when needed.



Post# 317169 , Reply# 6   11/27/2008 at 14:49 (5,622 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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If this is dyson then when will dyson announce that this is their new machine?

Why can't they just call it dyson?


Post# 317170 , Reply# 7   11/27/2008 at 15:12 (5,622 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
I'll do mine by myself...

Hi all,
anyway my opinion is the same as before regarding this "new-entry"...

I would like only to point out how at end that's what it'll be the new kind of washing machine growing up for future... just like the first electric washing machine patented in USA in 1910, TOP LOADING HORIZONTAL AXIS!

I don't matter aobut all these new "Dysoness"... bla-bla-bla but look at how many Dyson contrarotator drums have been sold!?

Obviously... this is a business bigger than mine but, none of the appliances producers have shown as "interested" in my idea that... as Josephine Cochraine did with what dishwashser now is I'll do with my new Superautomatica...

I'll do by myself! As the prototyping phase will be arriving at end... the "new" production will start and why not I'll do some webpages too.

A challenge for me... but as you american friends recently heard... "we can do!" :D



Post# 317171 , Reply# 8   11/27/2008 at 15:13 (5,622 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
and here you are the front

Checking the LEDs :)

Post# 317368 , Reply# 9   11/29/2008 at 19:22 (5,619 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Dyson-esque

Take look at the steel drum when the drawer is open (best viewed in the video of the guy using it).

The drum has its holes perfectly aligned in rows and has relatively few holes. It looks not unlike the outer wall of the Dyson Contrarotator drum.

Any other drum that I've ever seen, has the holes offset in rows.

Could the fellow 'using' the machine, be one of James Dyson's sons?


Post# 318073 , Reply# 10   12/4/2008 at 05:58 (5,615 days old) by mrx ()        

It could be Dyson conducting a trial before committing to launching the product. If it backfires it could tarnish the main Dyson brand, so they might want to iron the bugs out first before declaring any involvement.

It would be quite unusual to launch something like this without the backing of a fairly large company behind you. This really seems to have appeared out of the blue too.

Also, it's terrible timing for a launch of an expensive domestic appliance. People are tightening their belts and I suspect that many will hold off on kitchen and laundry appliance upgrades until this recession has passed!

Personally, I can't see any major advantage to that design. I prefer the idea of a machine with a large porthole. It's just as easy to load and I really don't like the idea of not being able to see the the wash. I have no idea why, but it seems like something you should see.


Post# 318301 , Reply# 11   12/5/2008 at 14:28 (5,614 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Notice...

...that they ('Reason') keep banging on about washing duvets? Very Dyson-ish!

Post# 319451 , Reply# 12   12/12/2008 at 11:35 (5,607 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

It's a guy called Andrew Reason who owns the page. And also the patents as well according to the patent office...

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Post# 319488 , Reply# 13   12/12/2008 at 15:41 (5,607 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Well....I`m in

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What a fascinating bedtime read!!!seems to be as I said earlier a cross between Dyson & Titan...that drive linckage mechanism looks complicated...and possibly two motor ...Dyson.....heater within resovoir...& slide out clothes cylinder....Titan.....joggle dial looks interesting, at least we can dial tepms and spin speeds etc...

Ohhh...the plot thickens.....I`d want one of those ballast tanks to be a "Sudz Saver"...very eco friendly, AND hot & cold fill so I can use my solar free heated hot / warmer water


My bet is they are all glued to sites like this so....any other "Best Of" features we can suggest ladies & gentlemen!!!

Starters for ten, list below!!!


Post# 319606 , Reply# 14   12/13/2008 at 13:24 (5,606 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
that drive linckage mechanism looks complicated...and possib

Eh???

I can only see one motor (slung underneath), and one simple belt-pulley (on back of drum). I cannot see any complicated drive mechanism.



Post# 319609 , Reply# 15   12/13/2008 at 13:41 (5,606 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
mmm it seems to be...

I've already saw it... but where!??!!?



Post# 319610 , Reply# 16   12/13/2008 at 13:42 (5,606 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
here maybe?!??!

... I don't remeber if it's a Miele

Post# 319612 , Reply# 17   12/13/2008 at 13:47 (5,606 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
the worst!

It's a TL but you open it by the front..

You load it by top but of course you cannot add any itemes when the cycle has already started... what a wet floor otherwise LOL!!

The porthole close with the outertub... so during the spin you see the lid shaking?!!?

The shaft more critic is generally the rear one there where you have the pulley and the trasmission... neither is stronger but worse is SLIDING!??!

It will be the "best washigm machine ever made"... but honsetly not only 10Kg and low temperature and low water level (and detergent auto-dosage) make a good machine!

Diomede


Post# 319639 , Reply# 18   12/13/2008 at 17:13 (5,606 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
that drive linckage mechanism looks complicated...and possib

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Then go back and read the patent information and view the drawings!!!, there are a lot of "Possiblies" and "One or More" listed in the details!!!

Post# 319645 , Reply# 19   12/13/2008 at 17:42 (5,606 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

OMG that's an olympia! The best belgian washer ever made! These are workhorses!!! How did you get those pictures? These machines are not build anymore. The founders son didn't want to sell the company and its knowhow of this model! He said that none of the candidates could garantee the same quality as he build. The last day, they got 500 orders for the 300 washers they could build. In many belgian households (mostly our province and the eastern province) olympia's are still washing away... I love olympia because it was so well build! My life started with olympias and hopefully one day we would have new well build olympias

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Post# 319693 , Reply# 20   12/14/2008 at 06:29 (5,605 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Then go back and read the patent information and view the dr

Really? Which drawings?

There do not appear to be any "mosaics" of any drive system in the patent application!


Post# 319696 , Reply# 21   12/14/2008 at 07:56 (5,605 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Reason

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here is a link to the article that dascot linked above!!

click on Description, Claims & Drawings, look at the Drawings pages 54 possibly two motors, 55 & 56 drum open closes linkages...wow thats some complex mechanism!!!

Also when you read the breakdown of parts and how it works, its very technical....in an age when we have perfected an inner / outer drum with motor underneath all worked by electronics....this seems more like a commercial machine!!!

have a read and let us know what you think!!!

Cheers, Mike


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Post# 319700 , Reply# 22   12/14/2008 at 09:59 (5,605 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
have a read and let us know what you think!!!

Maybe I'm wrong... but IS THERE ANY REVERSE WASHING ACTION?!?!
It seems the drum rotates only one side to stay closed and otherside to open...

I was wondering about a shaft that goes "in and out", instead there's a more complicated system (easier to went broken!??!) of trasmission... Lee Maxwell machines seems to have less levers,gears,shafts, pulleys...

>this seems more like a commercial machine!!!
And a lot merchandized indeed!!

Diomede


Post# 320049 , Reply# 23   12/16/2008 at 18:01 (5,603 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Chestermike

Ta very much for the link to the in-depth info. I had a quick look; I agree that it does look complex. I'll look closer in a day or two...

(Major crisis tonight, the fridge-freezer packed up! A Hoover model from 1998: Candy crap in disguise! My 'Other' had only the other day bought lots of goodies for Christmas. Bloomin' typical!!!)


Post# 320418 , Reply# 24   12/19/2008 at 02:35 (5,600 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
"Lee Maxwell machines seems to have less levers,gears,s

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Hi Diomede, what a line...LOL....but true, It does seem very complex, I just hope it works!!! Interesting feature on the ballast tanks, could be "multiples" I would have three, one for clean water fill & rinses, one for re-usable wash water SudzSave, and the third for hot fill from solar powered or energy efficient water heating!!!

The Olympia machine looks a cross between a Miele & Asko, best of both worlds..IMHO. I`m sure it would do a reverse tumble, cant imagine 10kg of wet laundry going one way, would make for a very tangled mess on some loads!!!


Post# 320521 , Reply# 25   12/19/2008 at 16:49 (5,600 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
Pretty odd mechanicals.

It looks as though there is a lot to go wrong in that drive linkage.

Notice too, the castor wheel method that allows the machine to sit firmly upon the floor when the ballast tanks are loaded with water. Could this be Dyson simplifying their 'trolley-jack' system as used on the Contrarotator?


Post# 324904 , Reply# 26   1/17/2009 at 20:35 (5,570 days old) by rolls_rapide (.)        
And now it has a comparison video!

Here:

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Post# 324984 , Reply# 27   1/18/2009 at 02:01 (5,570 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Simple cr*p!

And if that is a 10 kg machine why did they load it with only 5kg of towels? because they couldn't put anymore stuff in! That's false and misleading! I put more clothes in my front loader without reaching 5 kg that what the guy put in either of the washing machines in the video!


Post# 325018 , Reply# 28   1/18/2009 at 07:37 (5,570 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hhhmmm

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It gets more interesting!!!I wonder what Bosch will think of it!!! although an older model, (euro model perhaps) or even a mock up!!!

I like the point of talking over 7 yrs to diverse groups, universities, detergent manufacturers and such...!!! I do hope they worked with the end use, i.e. paying customers!!! have been asking around and either everyone is keeping schtum or no one I`ve asked knows anything about it!!!




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