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Frigidaire Washer Restoration Part II
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Post# 65090   5/2/2005 at 03:52 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

This is the washer mechanism, at rest on its side, waiting for the new tub so it can come to life again!.............




Post# 65091 , Reply# 1   5/2/2005 at 03:54 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Washer mechanism removed and on the bench so that I can remove the rusted remains of the tub, clean up the boot, and find new bolts for re-installation.........

Post# 65092 , Reply# 2   5/2/2005 at 03:58 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

This washer looks to be an early Rapidry 1000 mechanism. The date stamped inside the console was 1965. This is a close up of the 1000 rpm speed switch and I believe this is an early model since there is not a cut off switch and bellows up under the boot that is on all the other models that I have worked on! This was a surprise find. The later models had a cut off switch up under the boot for unbalanced loads.....

Post# 65093 , Reply# 3   5/2/2005 at 03:59 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Rapidry 1000 clutch and rollers.........very very neat design!

Post# 65094 , Reply# 4   5/2/2005 at 04:00 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Time to clean up the boot. WD-40, a chisel, vise grips, and pliers took care of this.........

Post# 65095 , Reply# 5   5/2/2005 at 04:01 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

New tub installed, vacuuming it out with my Air-Way Sanitizor

Post# 65096 , Reply# 6   5/2/2005 at 04:04 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

The "new" tub had some surface rust on it also, so I thought it best to paint it was POR-15. POR-15 is a "Paint Over Rust" paint that works extremely well. Its used extensively by car restorers for coating frames and chassis. It comes in a couple of different colors and I happened to have a can of chassis gloss black handy to thats what I used.......

Post# 65097 , Reply# 7   5/2/2005 at 04:05 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

This tub is NOT as bad as it looks! Here its about half way done..........

Post# 65098 , Reply# 8   5/2/2005 at 04:07 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Tub coated with POR-15. I usually wait 24hrs for it to cure before using anything that I have painted with it. In this case, I went ahead with the reassembly while it was drying......

Post# 65099 , Reply# 9   5/2/2005 at 04:08 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Next day,,,,,,24hrs later! Washer is back together and ready for a test........Its Filling!

Post# 65100 , Reply# 10   5/2/2005 at 04:09 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Selecting the wash options...........

Post# 65101 , Reply# 11   5/2/2005 at 04:10 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Wash dial, medium soil........

Post# 65102 , Reply# 12   5/2/2005 at 04:12 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hurray! It works! No leaks, nice and quiet and smooth running! Its just a fantastic machine. Thanks for the wonderful washer Rich! This is a load of whites pulsating and getting very clean!..........

Post# 65103 , Reply# 13   5/2/2005 at 04:16 (6,905 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

New set installed and running. I just admire this design and style so much......Another slilent prayer to the repair angels that watch over us an help us with our fixes........

Post# 65105 , Reply# 14   5/2/2005 at 04:39 (6,905 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
matched set

strange how the matching dryer doesn't have the chrome trim strips the washer does. Sort of a glaring omission, makes the dryer look like a lower line model.

Post# 65115 , Reply# 15   5/2/2005 at 07:21 (6,905 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        

I love it when you guy's post these kind of pictures! Good job Jimmy!

Post# 65117 , Reply# 16   5/2/2005 at 07:32 (6,905 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Congratulations! What a great Frigidaire pair. May they give you many trouble-free loads. Thanks for posting all the restoration pics.

Hey, Bethann---have you found a good rock, yet? :)


Post# 65119 , Reply# 17   5/2/2005 at 07:37 (6,905 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
mates

I just noticed there's no console light on the dryer like there is on the washer, either. Is the dryer the actual mate to the washer, or one step down? I can't imagine Frigidaire doing TWO big omissions like that.

Post# 65126 , Reply# 18   5/2/2005 at 08:49 (6,905 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Frigidaire Washer Restoration Part II

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This is realy a great washer. Love it.
Peter



Post# 65129 , Reply# 19   5/2/2005 at 09:16 (6,904 days old) by TrainGuy (Key West, FL)        
Great Job Jimmy!

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And by the way your clothes were moving, it looks likes this is model has the rare anti-tangling option.

Post# 65143 , Reply# 20   5/2/2005 at 10:29 (6,904 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Very Nice Job Jimmy, one can sure see that you have been busy. That is one beautiful set. Love that Airway Sanitizor too. Terry

Post# 65144 , Reply# 21   5/2/2005 at 10:32 (6,904 days old) by rickr (.)        
Duh... Part two. :)

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Didn't see this thread.
Wow it turned out looking and working like a new one!
What is a the "anti tangle option"? I never heard that term before.
Thanks


Post# 65163 , Reply# 22   5/2/2005 at 12:36 (6,904 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Does this Frigidaire have metered or timed fill? Judging by the 'SMALL LOAD' button, I'd guess it's metered; however, the soak cycle 'FILL' setting says otherwise. Or is this like some '60's Coronado machines, in which the 'Partial Fill' button just stopped fill and started agitation when it was pressed.

If this is a timed fill, how can it have HEAVY, NORM, and LIGHT Soil settings on the wash cycle? How would that work?

Thanks to anyone who can provide me with an answer!


Post# 65164 , Reply# 23   5/2/2005 at 12:43 (6,904 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

This is a timed fill washer, and the SMALL LOAD button energizes a solonoid that changes the escapment in the timer to make it run faster and provide a shorter time for filling. Somehow the timer "knows" when to start filling and agitating no matter where you set it within the soil settings on the dial, but how it does it is beyond me.........It does work very well, maybe someone else can tell us how it works. Id kind of like to know myself!

Post# 65192 , Reply# 24   5/2/2005 at 17:58 (6,904 days old) by drmitch ()        
Yaay!

Jimmy it looks great! Man the way that tub was rusted,you would think they washed in salt water! Glad to see them working, enjoyed the pics!

Post# 65198 , Reply# 25   5/2/2005 at 18:25 (6,904 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
WOW!!!

Jimmy! What beautiful machines!!! Thanks goodness for people like you that have a love for these babies and want to not only collect them BUT restore them and run them like they should be. I just know you'll have the whitest whites that will be cleaner than clean :~) Congratulations on another restoration! Mark

Post# 65201 , Reply# 26   5/2/2005 at 18:45 (6,904 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Jimmy--thanks for the info you were able to provide. Now I'm REALLY curious as to how the timed fill works.

I have only one trick left up my sleeve. Let me pull out the magic lamp and turban, and see if I can conjure up Robert....

"Oh, Uni, knowing sage of all things Frigidaire! I humbly beesech thee to explain to us how the timed fill on a '65 Frigidaire works! How can there be both a timed fill AND a soil selector for the wash cycle? What mysterious, 4th dimensional process takes place for such a miracle to exist?"

I see a little smoke coming from the spout...could it be...COULD IT BE............


Post# 65216 , Reply# 27   5/2/2005 at 20:43 (6,904 days old) by david (CA)        
thanks Jimmy

for the informative and instructional pix and dialogue. And also, airways rock! So does Frig. Hopefully, I'll get lucky and need to repair/restore one too.

Post# 65218 , Reply# 28   5/2/2005 at 20:57 (6,904 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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OK, here goes. Yes, the small load option speeds up the timer so that it has shorter time between timer increment moves. Now, sometime in the early 1960s, I believe 1960 or 1961, the tiemr reverts back to regular time increments after it finished the fill. Thus, wash time was always the same for each soil setting, whether regular or small load. The 1958 & 1959 models kept the faster time increments throughout the cycle, which I can personally attest to.

Post# 65221 , Reply# 29   5/2/2005 at 21:06 (6,904 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
now how does that go together?

Filterflo does the spin tub sit right on top of the boot? or does the boot protude some into the spin basket. Seems i always overlook, or miss that picture shot. I guess i am asking if you took a pic after you applied the POR, and the spin tub was back in place. prior to reinstalling the pulsator. We do not get to see these restorations in this neck of the woods. You do good work and thankyou for sharing your photo's. The final product is GREAT. Thanks arthur.

Post# 65224 , Reply# 30   5/2/2005 at 21:22 (6,904 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Anti Tangling Feature??

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I missed that in Doctrine. Can you enlighten me please?

Rich , do you mean the "jetcones" as opposed to the "energy rings" of the 50's?

Jimmy Nice machines brought back to life! Gotta Love that Jet Action!!
Does that POR paint stink alot? And how long is the working time?? Several minutes I am guessing?
Did you need to prepare the surface chemically or just brush the rust scale off the tub?


The dirt will jump out of your clothes now!

Jet



Post# 65237 , Reply# 31   5/2/2005 at 21:50 (6,904 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Good pics Jimmy, nice to see the set shining brightly again! Gotta love the POR-15!

The solenoid timer models began with only the Custom Imperial models in 1959, my WCI-59 has this feature as Bob (appnut) described. The timer energizes the solenoid at the beginning of the fill which changes the escapement and de-energizes it when the fill is completed so the timer goes back to the standard running time.


Post# 65239 , Reply# 32   5/2/2005 at 21:51 (6,904 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hey Jet, The POR-15 is kind of stinky, but not as bad as something like Kilz, if you have ever used that. I always let it cure for 24hrs before using anything Ive painted it with, be it a car frame or a washer tub. The problem with POR-15 is that it has a rather short shelf life after you open the can and expose it to air. Its working time is long, Ive found it stays wet for over an hour or so, but its nasty to get off your hands and never comes off clothes. I always just throw my paint brush away after using it.

Post# 65244 , Reply# 33   5/2/2005 at 21:58 (6,904 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

alr2903, It you go back to my other post of Frigidaire Washer Restoration Part I, you will see a pic of the tub before I took it out. The tub nut is still installed on the shaft. Scroll down to pics of the mechanism and you will see the threads on the shaft where the tub nut would go. The tub actually sits on top of a carbon seal that is shown in the pics and the threads for the tub nut will indicate the orientaion of the tub when its installed.....hope that makes sense to you! and helps.......

Post# 65252 , Reply# 34   5/2/2005 at 22:20 (6,904 days old) by westytoploader ()        
POR-15

Just might be the trick for the 1-18...has some mild surface oxidation in the outer tub and a coat would help. Looks like it really covers things up too.

Will definitely pick some up at NAPA when the spin seal comes in!


Post# 65293 , Reply# 35   5/3/2005 at 07:02 (6,904 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Appnut and Gansky---Thanks for your explanations of how the timed fill works on the Frigidaire. I thought all machines with timed fills had a FILL setting, then it went into the longest time available for the WASH portion of the cycle. I thought if you wanted a shorter wash time, you'd have to manually advance the timer after the fill.

I appreciate your time and knowledge! Thanks!


Post# 65297 , Reply# 36   5/3/2005 at 07:27 (6,904 days old) by westytoploader ()        

BTW, congratulations on the restoration! The control panel on those machines really catch my eye...not to mention the Frigidaire action of course!

Post# 65300 , Reply# 37   5/3/2005 at 09:30 (6,903 days old) by rocky2 (Northwest Indiana)        
Thanks Jimmy

This is truly a testament that these machines were built to last. Thanks for sharing the restoration pics. For someone like me that has never done a repair, let alone a restoration, the pics give a better understanding of what is involved and actually doesn't look as scarey as it sounds.

And I just love the frigidaires. Makes me that more determined to find a set of my own.

Thanks again to you and all the other members for sharing your pics and knowledge.


Post# 65311 , Reply# 38   5/3/2005 at 13:53 (6,903 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        
Great Work Jimmy!

Thanks for the pictures Jimmy!
That is such a beautiful set!
How many sets do you have now?
Are you trading sets out to make room for more sets? Or did you start a island of sets in the middle of your garage?
Brent


Post# 65317 , Reply# 39   5/3/2005 at 16:18 (6,903 days old) by cybrvanr ()        

Another good thing to mention about POR 15 is that it is hardened by moisture. If you decide to use the stuff, I would recommend doing it on a dry day, or in a location that you can de-humidify the air. If you wait till a sticky summer day, the stuff will "dry" so fast that you will not have enough time to apply it!

I put some of that stuff on the cast iron keel to my sailboat several years ago, and it has remained in great shape ever since!


Post# 65319 , Reply# 40   5/3/2005 at 16:59 (6,903 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Brent, I think I have 16 sets now. I will be selling some of them, but its just so hard part with any of them! And yes, I have washers stacked all over, there is not an empty spot anywhere anymore. Boy, does the extra space diappear fast!

Post# 65329 , Reply# 41   5/3/2005 at 17:54 (6,903 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
filter flow jimmy

Now it makes perfect sense thanks for answering my question, Do not know how i missed that one. Your Frigidaire project turned out beautifully thankyou. arthur.

Post# 65346 , Reply# 42   5/3/2005 at 19:53 (6,903 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Frigilux, you're welcome about the explanation. Because my timed fill exposure was pretty much Frigidaier, I thought all timed fill acted this way. Goes to show you, Frigidaire went the extra mile as always.


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