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Hi! new to twin tubs - which is best model? Your thoughts...!!
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Post# 322944   1/7/2009 at 17:37 (5,580 days old) by hoovermaticpete ()        

Hi

Been reading the forum for a while now so thought I'd say hi and ask for some sage advice.

Have very fond memories of both my grandparents' twintubs and how fun they were to use. Recently I've been thinking I want to get one to use alongside our old automatic (late 80s 9526)

Am thinking I want a 5024 or earlier with the rinse arm, but have seen a number of 5090s for sale and was wondering which was the best bet (or any other suggestions/ makes etc) in terms of parts etc and particularly whether there's any difference in spin performance. How good is it? (I seem to remember my Grandma's washing being much drier than from our automatic, but it was a while ago?). How much should I expect to pay for one?

Anyway, great forum, glad I found it

Cheers,
Pete

(PS if anyone has one they'd like to sell or can suggest best places to look for one...?)





Post# 323222 , Reply# 1   1/9/2009 at 02:04 (5,578 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Twin tubs

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Hello Pete

Welcome to this great website

If you look at Ebay January there is great old Hoover Twintub

Gary


Post# 323231 , Reply# 2   1/9/2009 at 03:43 (5,578 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Twinny Washers

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Hi Pete, welcome to the club, lots of twinnys seem to be about at the moment, vintage & newer ones on ebay, check your local papers and freecycle in your area, you may be surprised at whats about, the three main brands tend to be Hotpoint, Hoover & Servis, hoover is the simplest and easiest to work on for repairs etc, although when you pick up a servis or Hottie in good nick they tend to last!!!

I also like the Hoovers with the swing arm, the T5090 was the last one produced and there are lots around, IMHO i think its one of the blandest models they ever made, much more colour n features on the previous models!!!

let us know how you get on!!!, Mike


Post# 323232 , Reply# 3   1/9/2009 at 03:45 (5,578 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Welcome

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Check over on Yahoo. There are two twin tub groups, though things can get slow at times. Still, post a message and you'll get a response by and by.

Even if you do not have a Hoover TT yet, if you are dead keen on getting one, it ever hurts to snap up any parts you see on Ebay or elsewhere, especially "new old stock".



Post# 323236 , Reply# 4   1/9/2009 at 04:40 (5,578 days old) by hoovermaticpete ()        
Thanks and more questions!

Thanks for all your replies,
I agree, I don't find the 5090 as appealing, the earlier ones like 5024 and previous look so much more interesting and colourful to me.
As for other makes I think I want a hoover for the simplicity and I prefer the look of them, but will have a look at the others. Do they wash or spin much better?

Have seen an original Hoovermatic (3174?)with single knob on the front. Am guessing this means it has heater but no timer? Is this model still a practical proposition even at that age for parts etc? Do these still have the autorinse etc? I cant see any filler arm for the tub or the spinner, how do you operate these (I think I read somewhere that these are permanently plumbed in, is that correct?)

What is the spin like on the Hoovermatics in general, is it pretty good and would an early one like this be as fast spin as later ones?

Sorry for the barrage of questions but as I say am new and still learning! Want to make sure I get the best type for what we need.

Anyway thanks again for all your replies so far.
Pete


Post# 323237 , Reply# 5   1/9/2009 at 05:33 (5,578 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Pete,

With reference to your query regarding Hoovermatics..as may know the wash action is only for 4 minutes by way of high speed "Pulsator" the spinner is mid-range I would say, Hoover's weren’t the fastest but also not the slowest..they span at 2800rpm, where compared to the Hotpoint's they were 3100rpm !!

With regards to the 3174 that is on ebay at the moment..this model does have a heater, and the control knob on the front is a 4-position control going through the following sequence: Off - Motor - Off - Heater (from memory) the wash timer is on the top near the spinner..This model was the 1st twin tub that Hoover produced..parts are still available, but can be hard to come by, especially if the spin bearing went !! There is no auto-rinse and rinsing is done by hand filling the spinner with just a hose, these machines do not need to be plumbed in, they are totally mobile.

For longevity, and use on a weekly basis, I would hedge my bets on a newer machine lasting longer..although the older ones are easier to work on for simplicity, unless you have a rough technical understanding a repair bill could be high, whereby a newer machine would have more usage before things start to go wrong...however the choice is yours…and wishing you well with your searching !!

Regards
Keith


Post# 323239 , Reply# 6   1/9/2009 at 06:04 (5,578 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoovermatic 3174

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Pete, the 3174, one knob on front is the first twin tub from Hoover, made here in Merthyr Tydfil, Welsh Wales!!!, none of the twinnys are plumbed in, simply wheel them to the sink and connect the hose to either Hot Tap for a quick hot fill, or cold tap to allow the heater to heat the water etc... this model does have a 4 minute wash timer, its on the top fascia near the spinner, the next model has the 3334 has the two controls on the front!!!

Once water is correct temp, switch on and pour in powder to dissolve, then (and this is where opinions divide)I usually with the pulsator spinning add the clothes until rollover is not impaired, others (Ahem!!!) add clothes to tub and then switch on, no way is best just whatever suits you!!!

Once washing complete transfer to the spinner using tongs if water too hot,& place rubber spin mat over clothes lightly pressing down...then spin only until the water stops flowing back into the wash tub saving the washwater for re-use!!!

To rinse either hose cold water over the clothes & spin 3 / 4 times until water clear, then spin up to 4 mins for final drying!!or using the auto rinse of the later models simply allow the flow of water over the clothes and switch the auto-rinse on!!! here is a pic n vid of the 3174 in action!!!cheers, Mike


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Post# 323240 , Reply# 7   1/9/2009 at 06:12 (5,578 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoovermatic T5054

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This IMHO is the nicest of the Hoovermatics, love the colours, style & features!!!

And if there is any doubt how fast a hoover twinny pumps the water out, just take a look, thats a deep laundry sink and it still threatens to overshoot, smaller inset sinks and you need to wedge the pipe of the rim!!! What happens if you dont is on the first page of the "Owners Initiation booklet"...Lol


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Post# 323241 , Reply# 8   1/9/2009 at 06:21 (5,578 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Jeez,

All this fun, good job Pauls not here in Crewe right now or id have to go get the Supermatic out to get me through the 3 loads I have waiting for the automatic right now.

Personally for me although being slightly more complicated to repair the Hotpoints have the edge with the non tangle spirolator and the longer 12 minute wash times for the powder to do its job.
Something inside me just never registers the 4 minute Hoover wash to be able to break down soils on whites without longer water contact LOL.

Rob (and Paul who I guess is slaving away in his office right now).


Cant find the pictures of the Hottie twinny so a pic of the Toploader will have to sufice, FilterFlo - the best lint removal system IMHO





Post# 323246 , Reply# 9   1/9/2009 at 06:54 (5,578 days old) by hoovermaticpete ()        

Hi guys,thanks again for all your responses, you're all a great source of information, and its great to see pics of your machines - look great.

I do really like the look of the original hoovermatic 3174 but think I might hold out and look at some later ones - maybe a 5124 or one of the HMDL with the chome panel (not sure what model it is?) One of my Grandparents had the 5124 (thats the one with the orange knobs etc??), the other I think had a 5054. Still tempted by the original though!

Am fairly mechanically competent, have done some fairly involved repairs on our hotpoint automatic (9526) so not too concerned about repair costs except regarding parts availability and costs.

Aquarious1984 - my mum had a Hotpoint TL like that till around 2000 or so when she got a Dyson. It was the only frontloader she would buy after the TL, as its one of the only ones that is near as practical - you can pause it to add/remove thing throughout most of the cycle as it lets you open the door if the water level is low enough.

Will have a bit more of a think about the HP twinnies - like the idea of the better spin/rinse but like the style and simplicity of the Hoovers.

Pete


Post# 323249 , Reply# 10   1/9/2009 at 07:12 (5,578 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint filterFlow!!!

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Good point about the Lint Filteration although one might pit it against the Servis Agitator with Snap-On Power fin and built-in filteration system!!!

Heres Darrens Hotpoint Supermatic, superb machine, extra quiet 3,100spin and of course Filter-Flow.... all designed by the Hotpoint In-House design team of the 60`s, led by UK Industrial Designer Oliver Hill...


Post# 323252 , Reply# 11   1/9/2009 at 07:16 (5,578 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint in Action

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7lb load, 3kw heater, 3,100rpm later models have auto flow rinsing, a ring of water jets around the spin lid, effective but slower to rinse than say Hoover which saturates pretty quick...

Post# 323255 , Reply# 12   1/9/2009 at 07:24 (5,578 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Orange Knobs!!!

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Was it this one Pete??, did your grandparents machine have white lids or silver??

Post# 323264 , Reply# 13   1/9/2009 at 08:59 (5,578 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike, luv that 1450 Supermatic..groovy bluy lids against the matt chrome control panel...you may know or not, but did this model still have the powder clutch on the spinner, as the 1420 did and caused major probs ?

I am off to Stoke Newington tomorrow morning to pick up a Hotpoint Twin Six..the cheaper version of the Supermatic, quite nice as the owner still has the instruction booklet as well as guarantees etc..will post some pics once collected.

Keith


Post# 323283 , Reply# 14   1/9/2009 at 11:09 (5,578 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Good one Keith.

Dont know anything of the Twin Six and have only ever seen one picture of it! Cant wait to see some more shots of this real rarity. Was the Twin-Six the model 1410? Always been a mystery as to what this machines model number was - be great to have it confirmed finally.


The other end of the spectrum nearly from the 1450 that Mike posted pictures of:
here are the pictures of mine and Rob's Supermatic model 9410. Not the last version, but getting close!


Post# 323284 , Reply# 15   1/9/2009 at 11:10 (5,578 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and after it was cleaned to sparkling condition

Post# 323353 , Reply# 16   1/9/2009 at 18:50 (5,578 days old) by hoovermaticpete ()        

Mike, Yes looked very much like that one but had white lids (does that one have silver panel and lids its hard to tell on the photo on my screen?) what model is the one pictured? Still really tempted by that 3174, love the style of those early models, but like the features on the later ones. That older Hotpoint looks cool too, and the fast spin certainly appeals. Great collection you've got by the way, they all look fab.

Paul, nice work on your Hotpoint - looks great.

Well certainly got some good food for thought from you all, I guess all these models have their individual strongpoints, just a matter of preference. Decisions, decisions...!


Post# 323381 , Reply# 17   1/10/2009 at 03:00 (5,577 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
A new model twin tub

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Hi Pete and greetings from the land down under
Here are some pics of my Haier twin tub which I have owned for about 2 years now, as far as I am aware this is about the only T.T. available in Australia now,hope you enjoy.


Post# 323382 , Reply# 18   1/10/2009 at 03:02 (5,577 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
number 2

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Here is another

Post# 323383 , Reply# 19   1/10/2009 at 03:03 (5,577 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
number 3

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Controls

Post# 323384 , Reply# 20   1/10/2009 at 03:03 (5,577 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
number 4

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spin timer

Post# 323385 , Reply# 21   1/10/2009 at 03:04 (5,577 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
number 5

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washtub

Post# 323386 , Reply# 22   1/10/2009 at 03:05 (5,577 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
number 6

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last of all the spintub

Post# 323429 , Reply# 23   1/10/2009 at 12:20 (5,577 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoovermatic

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Pete, the Hoover twinny has silver lids and its the T5024, love the orange accents!!! the weak point on this was the rubber rinse hose under the console, this one leaks like a sieve...other than that its good as new!!, Mike

Post# 323464 , Reply# 24   1/10/2009 at 17:33 (5,577 days old) by hoovermaticpete ()        

Hi again

Twinniefan, thanks for the pictures, interesting to see what the newer models are like.
Mike, thanks for you help, grans was just like that but with the white lids. Yours looks great.
Have spotted a 5090 on ebay which am quite tempted by, I know its not got the style of the earlier models but have been thinking - maybe its a good model to start with - can always expand my collection later on if it gets me hooked! Whats a reasonable price to pay for these? Its on at £50 buy it now at the moment but looks in decent condition.

Pete


Post# 323472 , Reply# 25   1/10/2009 at 18:54 (5,577 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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There is no rhyme or reason to twin tub pricing. Some units in great conditon go cheap, others in less perfect shape can sell for very dear amounts.

Normally much depends, as with all large appliances, on location. If the unit is some where out on the moors or some tiny village in Devon, it probably won't sell for the same amount if it was some where nice and central, say London, for instance.

However it is worth a trip, if possible to nab a unit in good or even mint condtion. Some have driven and taken a boat train and reverse to pick up good units on the other side of the Channel.

Your other option is to keep your eyes open at tips and curbsides for discarded units. You would be surprised how many perfectly working twinnies are chucked out simply because someone purchased something new and modern, or their gran passed on and no one wanted the thing.

When purchasing a twin tub, first inquiry to any seller should be about the pump. Hoover models in particular tended to have pumps that gave out, which wasn't a problem back in the day, as the pumps were designed to be repaired. However Hoover no longer produces twin tubs, and stopped recently stopped production of spares as well in the UK. While there are some "new old stock" parts and bits about, pumps are hard to come by. Without the pump, the unit is useless as no other pumps will fit.

L.


Post# 323506 , Reply# 26   1/10/2009 at 22:52 (5,576 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Hoover Tubs

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I LOVE those heavy duty metal tubs that everyone else but the US gets. I've got a US model T1003 (avocado green) and the tubs are molded plastic. I still love em, but that washtub is NICE. The colors here are nice though, I don't see a lot of the non-US models with a lot of color.

-Tim



Post# 323508 , Reply# 27   1/10/2009 at 22:58 (5,576 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
I'm Sorry?

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My Hoover TT has "heavy" metal wash and spin tubs, thank you very much. Photo's can be seen under my group profile page.

L.


Post# 323528 , Reply# 28   1/11/2009 at 04:00 (5,576 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover n Colour!!!

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Hi Tim, yes we all think grass is greener!!! your early machines like Laundresses, had the metal non shiny tubs and where hardwearing, then from the machine you have Hoover switched to the shiny stainless steel or the molded plastics as produced in North Canton.

Difference being ours had the 3kw heater in so plastic options where out, BUT what fabulous colours you guys had!!! all those turquoises, advocadoes, harvest golds and coppertones!!!one thing hoover was never afraid of was COLOUR...LOL

Heres a pic of some of Tom Andersons machines from the Hoover Convention last year as demonstrated by twinny washer extrordinaire MickeyD...


Post# 323529 , Reply# 29   1/11/2009 at 04:04 (5,576 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Coppertone...

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Anyone else got one this colour???

Post# 323546 , Reply# 30   1/11/2009 at 06:20 (5,576 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Paul, you are spot on with the model number on the Hotpoint Twin Six..it was a 1410, the cheaper version of the 1400 Supermatic. I collected the Twin 6 from London yesterday morning, in good condition, but needs a good clean up...may indulge in some "Limelite-ing" later !!

It is such a weird set up, a hose is plugged into the left-hand corner of the wash tub to empty the spinner and then another is inserted into the right hand corner of the wash tub to empty the tub..why not just have a hose come out the back for the spinner...bizzare !!

Have a look at the pic to see the machine..these machines were only made for 18mths..so glad to get one.

Cheers..Keith


Post# 323549 , Reply# 31   1/11/2009 at 06:27 (5,576 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Yes, One Always Wears High Heels & A Smart Frock

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On wash day. Well at least she's wearing a pinny.

Nice Kenwood mixer on the counter!

Pray tell, what was so special about Hotpoint's wash system that it did not tangle laundry a la Hoover and perhaps other twin tubs? Did it have an agitator?

L.


Post# 323803 , Reply# 32   1/12/2009 at 14:40 (5,575 days old) by hoovermaticpete ()        
Bought one!!!

Hi guys,
Thought I'd let you know. Have just bought a twin tub. Plumped for the T5090 Hoovermatic in the end, should be picking it up this week. Can't wait to give it a try. Btw whats the best soap powder to use in your opinions? Not many of the old type phosphate based high suds powders around now. Soap flakes with/without washing soda I'd heard elsewhere are supposed to work quite well...?


Post# 323804 , Reply# 33   1/12/2009 at 14:42 (5,575 days old) by hoovermaticpete ()        
Instruction Manual

Sorry to ask but does anyone have an instruction manual for the T5090 that they wouldn't mind emailing me? Or know if they're available to view online anywhere?
Don't think the one I've bought will come with one

Thanks
Pete


Post# 323829 , Reply# 34   1/12/2009 at 16:22 (5,575 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Cant wait to see piccies Keith!

Congratulations on a great find - Twin Six 1410. fantastic.
Now i have to fathom out what the 1411 was - and what was all the LA and LB lark about?

You know me - a never ending torrent of questions, questions and more questions.

Really pleased for you.
paul


Hiya Pete.
Great purchase - the last of a great line. One thing I noticed about the T5090 was just how light it was compared with its predecessors.
Had to move a number of machines, wehen I was helping a very good mate sort his storage container out. Moving loads of frontloaders and some vintage twinnies and single tubs. Knackering work. Then we came to move the T5090 - felt so light as to be able to be able to swing it around your head. not really, but you know what I mean.

Saw a T5090 for sale on a recent trip back to my parents - the shop wanted £80.00 (thats right aint it Rob?). Looked in good nick, but we are strapped for space at the moment, so we left it.

Cant help with the instruction manual. weirdly, this is one of the few T50XX twinny models that i have never seen an instruction manual for (that I can remember anyway). I am sure there will be one out there somewhere.

Have fun with your new purcahse and be sure to show it off, with a thread.

Cheers
paul


Post# 323834 , Reply# 35   1/12/2009 at 16:35 (5,575 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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£80 was right if ur referring to the shop with the Kirby in???

Space??? Id sacrifice a wardrobe or two to squeeze one in.... LOL



Post# 326065 , Reply# 36   1/22/2009 at 08:34 (5,565 days old) by 74simon ()        

Hey Pete, hope you're getting on well with your HMDL, have you had the chance to use it properly yet? The only issues I have with Hoover machines is the inability to heat and spin at the same time, and their sensitivity to being overloaded. By the way Mike, my way of loading washing now involves 'measuring' loads in the spin can first, so I don't have to fish items out to get a turnover going...

I used to use Fairy Snow in mine, but it seems to have been discontinued, so stick to either Persil TT or store brands, as bio powders and I don't get on well! Soap flakes need thorough rinsing out in hot water, else they come out feeling greasy, trust me!!!

Keith - congratulations on the Twin Six - does it have a wash timer? Can't wait for pictures.

Simon



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