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Pause after wash/rinse
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Post# 323979   1/13/2009 at 12:30 (5,574 days old) by kindalazy (toronto)        

I've always been curious as to why some manufacturers choose to pause and drain before a spin, and others just spin and drain.

Is one method better?





Post# 323988 , Reply# 1   1/13/2009 at 12:48 (5,574 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Older Whirlpool manufactured belt-frives with wig-wags drain then spin becuase they can and because they have to. Less strain on the motor. Seven spray rinses probably designed to flush away sdeiments and suds that palnted themselves on top of clothes as the water was drained witout a spin. non-continous spary rinses help the machine pump out water and maintain spin speed.

Older GEs and Maytags do a spin-drain because they have to, based on their engineering. The pause between wash and drain is due to the motor changing direction. Probably better for avoiding sediments and sudes form settling on clothes.

Norges (at least the 70's models) did a partial drain then a spin. IIRC the spin solenoid would only engage when the water level swithced registed "empty, please fill up more". One could trigger a pre-mature spin by moving the wter level control to the "Reset" zone. One could also delay the spin by moving the water level control way down.



Post# 323992 , Reply# 2   1/13/2009 at 12:50 (5,574 days old) by tuthill ()        

Not sure exactly, but I would assume it has to do with the design of the motor and transmission. Washers like Maytag's and GE's paused before the spin because the motor needs to reverse for the spin cycle. Immediately reversing like this would be catastrophic for the machine. Washers like the Unimatic don't do a pause because the motor is non reversing. Hope this helps!

Post# 324051 , Reply# 3   1/13/2009 at 15:53 (5,574 days old) by llmaytag (Southern California)        
Spin & Drain at once

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I think for most mechanical designs, the simpler the design the better. Fewer moving parts probably means less expensive to build and probably more durability and less repair. I think the Maytag transmission was really elegant. Turn the transmission in one direction, you get agitation, the other, spin and drain.

I think the spin-drain is better. As someone mentioned I think he keeps soap from settling into fabrics, and it seems to spread the clothes more evenly up and down the tub as opposed to letting all the clothes rest at the bottom before spinning. I imagine that with the clothes more evenly spread around up and down the tub that the water extraction is better, and perhaps the spin-spray has a better effect since water doesn't have to pass through as think a clump of fabric.

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Post# 324054 , Reply# 4   1/13/2009 at 16:17 (5,574 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Even in the 90's Whirlpool was advertising that its neutral drain was better because it didn't "force" the dirty water back through the clothes.

I think most of us think a spin drain is better, but it will always be one of those things that are used to advertise a machine as superiour.


Post# 324146 , Reply# 5   1/13/2009 at 21:46 (5,574 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I think the spin drain is BETTER IMHO. Unfortunately I've never had a machine that spin drains. Do any of the new TL machines even spin drain anymore? I would LOVE for one of the appliance companies to use the GM Frigidaire agitation. To me that was the best and I think it did a spin/drain as well.

Post# 324160 , Reply# 6   1/13/2009 at 22:08 (5,574 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
Speed Queen

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Speed Queen still spin drains.

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Post# 324173 , Reply# 7   1/13/2009 at 22:54 (5,574 days old) by llmaytag (Southern California)        
Spin Drain

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From the videos I've seen, I think the Maytag does a faster spin drain. The Speed Queens, despite their name, don't seem to come up to speed as quickly as the Maytags did. I know the Frigidaire, (Imperial dry?), was incredibly quick coming up to speed. I think coming up to speed quickly is better for the clothes.

Post# 324193 , Reply# 8   1/14/2009 at 01:07 (5,573 days old) by tuthill ()        

The old SS solid tub Speed Queens (as long as the fluid drive is good) got up to speed pretty fast, especially Robert's with the 700 rpm spin pulley! Unimatics didn't have a clutch so they accelerate perhaps faster than any other washer, and of course get all the way to 1140. I think throwing the water out of a solid tub is best for clean clothes ('tags also had a good spin drain).


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