New Hoover 0510

After tearing into the machine, I'm amazed at how many things are different yet the same on the 0510 versus the next generation of the Hoovers. Almost everything in this thing is different, but simplified and sturdier. The pump casing for example, comes apart in 2 pieces and has an internal spring valve versus the newer "pinch" valve. The wash and spin tubs are steel, not plastic yet the machine isn't that much heavier than the newer styles. From what little I've ran the spin motor, it seems quieter than the newer ones as well and is completely different looking. Lots of neat things here and there. I've got the old girl all repaired as well (I think). The drain hose was a casualty of war and was so stiff that it broken into several pieces. This was a real bummer because it's a strange hose and it looks like it would be hard to find. If anyone knows of a UK vendor and what UK model would have that hose I'd be grateful. The hose goes up from the pump, through a hole atop the wash tub and has a 90 degree crook in it. It looks like it rests on the small lip under the wash lid for storage and slack is in the machine. When you pull up on it (assuming that it's still flexible) it raises and reaches over to the sink or back down in it's holder for suds return, has a square end on it. I modified a newer hook style hose to fit

The pump poured water out around the base o-ring. I removed and cleaned the pump, and oiled the bearing up with some machine oil as well. There was quite a lot of sediment and rust standing in there, but the plunger assembly for the drain control seemed to be OK after a thorough cleaning although it seems fragile. The o-ring for the top section was still in very good shape and was soft still, so I re-used it. I could not find a suitable o-ring for the lower part so I ended up using some black sealant around the bead before compressing it back together. The stuff works pretty well, and once it sets up it hardens a tad so it can be removed without mess if I open up the pump again.

I also repaired the spinner door where the hinge nub had broken. I carefully drilled a small hole in the plastic and threaded a small brass standoff in there, seems sturdy enough and was easier than fabricating some sort of replacement lid corner bracket.

I've been busy.

I've also added some internal pics on the Flickr page.

-Tim

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Post# 337058 3/23/2009 at 14:15 (5,511 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)
Checkrate/Likes This little gem was the reason I was asking about the differences about the Hoovers. I debated buying this, but I took the dive, and drove to Cinci to pick it up Saturday. It's in very good condition, no dents and the top is intact and in very good condition. Mechanically may be a different story as it's not been used in a long while, the underside is spotless however, no rust and the belts look new. The hoses and pump may be questionable as well as the spin can, powered up the spin can to hear a horrid shrieking. What would you Hoover guys use for bearing and seal lube on these? Also anyone have a guess about the date? Anyway here she is! CLICK HERE TO GO TO macboy91si's LINK

Post# 337074 , Reply# 1 3/23/2009 at 15:22 (5,511 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill Home of the RailwayTrials Merseyside,UK)
Checkrate/Likes *Hoover Twinny* Hi Tim, glad we didnt put you off getting it then!!! she`s a beauty....how weird that the pic I posted was our equivalent model!!! This was produced around 1964 Check a few things out & stop the shrieking!!, take the back off and (unplugged) slip the belts off the motor/spin can & pump, make sure they all can turn freely, a few drops of oil around the mounting bases can help, dont put any near the rubber resiliant mount on the spin can base... turn the pump back & forth, check its loose, same with the spin can,(make sure the lid is down & brake dis-engaged!!! If all is well, pour some warm water into the spin can, only a pint at first, in case of leaks etc, leave to soak for 10 mins then switch on and spin out... These hoover twinnys are well known for shrieking when dry and usually the water does the trick.. let us know how you get on!!

Post# 337257 , Reply# 2 3/24/2009 at 13:28 (5,510 days old) by 74simon ()
Checkrate/Likes *Nice find,* I understand the rounded cabinet machines are a bit sturdier than later ones, and have a fixed wash motor rather than a floating one - which makes for a more vigourous wash. One thing I would also suggest would be to detach the washtub to pump hose, and keep an eye on the rubber valve in the pump when selecting 'empty tub' - both my machines had a stuck valve which ended up pulling off its spring - it can be glued, but it's fiddly! Hope you enjoy it - I've used nothing but vintage Hoover washers for the last couple of years, and have no complaints about my wash!

Post# 337283 , Reply# 3 3/24/2009 at 16:36 (5,510 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)
Checkrate/Likes *Discoveries* After tearing into the machine, I'm amazed at how many things are different yet the same on the 0510 versus the next generation of the Hoovers. Almost everything in this thing is different, but simplified and sturdier. The pump casing for example, comes apart in 2 pieces and has an internal spring valve versus the newer "pinch" valve. The wash and spin tubs are steel, not plastic yet the machine isn't that much heavier than the newer styles. From what little I've ran the spin motor, it seems quieter than the newer ones as well and is completely different looking. Lots of neat things here and there. I've got the old girl all repaired as well (I think). The drain hose was a casualty of war and was so stiff that it broken into several pieces. This was a real bummer because it's a strange hose and it looks like it would be hard to find. If anyone knows of a UK vendor and what UK model would have that hose I'd be grateful. The hose goes up from the pump, through a hole atop the wash tub and has a 90 degree crook in it. It looks like it rests on the small lip under the wash lid for storage and slack is in the machine. When you pull up on it (assuming that it's still flexible) it raises and reaches over to the sink or back down in it's holder for suds return, has a square end on it. I modified a newer hook style hose to fit The pump poured water out around the base o-ring. I removed and cleaned the pump, and oiled the bearing up with some machine oil as well. There was quite a lot of sediment and rust standing in there, but the plunger assembly for the drain control seemed to be OK after a thorough cleaning although it seems fragile. The o-ring for the top section was still in very good shape and was soft still, so I re-used it. I could not find a suitable o-ring for the lower part so I ended up using some black sealant around the bead before compressing it back together. The stuff works pretty well, and once it sets up it hardens a tad so it can be removed without mess if I open up the pump again. I also repaired the spinner door where the hinge nub had broken. I carefully drilled a small hole in the plastic and threaded a small brass standoff in there, seems sturdy enough and was easier than fabricating some sort of replacement lid corner bracket. I've been busy. I've also added some internal pics on the Flickr page. -Tim CLICK HERE TO GO TO macboy91si's LINK

Post# 337292 , Reply# 4 3/24/2009 at 18:00 (5,510 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There�s a Lady on Stage)
Checkrate/Likes *Congrats!* Have the same model as yours, and mine arrived pretty much MIB as well. Indeed looked hardly used. You can see pictures in my profile. Also have the owner's manual and a Hoover parts,repair and service manual which covers twin tubs. Best of luck with your new "baby". L.

Post# 337337 , Reply# 5 3/24/2009 at 20:55 (5,510 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)
Checkrate/Likes *More old rubber headaches* I love old brittle plastics and rubbers. The replacement drain hose rubbed against the belt and started a flood. While changing it out, a large piece of the outlet nub on the drain pump shattered and the plastic piece on top of the machine where the drain hose exits shattered a screw hole. AYYYYY, new flexi-hose from Lowe's is installed, it's an odd setup, but I have no idea where to find that hose. I really DON'T like the way the drain hose is situated, the pulsator is a much torquier than the floating mount Hoovers and makes lot of splashing on that shelf where the hose comes up, I'm leary of a bunch of water running down into the machine. I've added a few more pics of the new hose and drain thingy. It did survive a maiden wash until the hose shattered. Pump leaks from the switching mechanism grommet on top, I really just need a new pump, looks like there are a lot of vendors in the UK that have this very pump for sale, fits 3301L through or past the 3314L, must have been a popular design. -Tim

Post# 337366 , Reply# 6 3/24/2009 at 21:23 (5,510 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There�s a Lady on Stage)
Checkrate/Likes *Am Doing A Load Of Sheets Now* Water can and will splash down from where the drain hose comes out of the top cabinet, do not fret that much about it. You will see a small puddle of water when you move the machine back, after wash day is done. Just consider it part of the drama, mop it up, and get on with your day! LOL

Post# 337377 , Reply# 7 3/24/2009 at 21:44 (5,510 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)
Checkrate/Likes *How do you view your collection?* I can't figure out how to view your collection.

Post# 337382 , Reply# 8 3/24/2009 at 22:16 (5,510 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There�s a Lady on Stage)
Checkrate/Likes *Psst!* Hey Mac! Come 'ere CLICK HERE TO GO TO launderess's LINK

Post# 337429 , Reply# 9 3/25/2009 at 07:46 (5,509 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)
Checkrate/Likes *Wow* It's the exact same machine that I have, even the same colors! How cool. What model is yours? I wonder if there are any parts still around for it...

Post# 337521 , Reply# 10 3/25/2009 at 16:36 (5,509 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There�s a Lady on Stage)
Checkrate/Likes *Same Model Number As Yours* There were only two Hoover TTs offered in the US, well three if you count the model with a wringer instead of a spin dryer. First models had the metal wash tubs and manual spray rinse system, the second moved on to poly tubs and the "automatic" spray rinse systems. Hoover twin tubs began loosing market share once fully automatic portable washing machines became available in "apartment" size. Parts: While quite rare in the United States, every now and then one can find parts for Hoovers. Myself have two MIB pumps and another used (came with the machine and was swapped out for a new, sent by a kind fellow member). Also have a large box of parts and bobs in my stash, that haven't begun to sort. Many persons who have such parts, and own the machines are reluctant to sell or "donate" parts, unless they have extras in their stash because of the rarity. Hoover continued producing twin tub washers until only rather recently in the UK, so parts are easier to come by on that side of the pond. Oz as well seems to have more dealers with an active Hoover washer part list. Drain Hose: While one does have the original Hoover drain hose, due to the tightness of space, the unit cannot get close enough to the sink for proper use. So attached a length of regular black washing machine drain hose from the hardware store. This extends about a foot out of the machine, then attach the Hoover drain hose. Odd set up and a bit of work to get things in place for wash day, but does the job.