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Thread Number: 21488
Finally its happened to me right in front of my eyes but words cant describe it |
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| Post# 338575 3/29/2009 at 12:48 (5,505 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
Well it has now happened, i got a phone call from another site i used to work at............he had a..................................KEYMATIC!...........this was 14.00 hours so i had 2.30 minutes to go before i could leave and collect it on the way home................ I got to the other site and there it was.........not bad condition at all,very clean underneath no signs of rust on the tub, but no KEYPLATE.........grrrrrrrrrr so if anyone has any :-) It still has the lift off work top and black door seal........i love it.......im a bit jiggly still 
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| Post# 338576 , Reply# 1 3/29/2009 at 12:49 (5,505 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338577 , Reply# 2 3/29/2009 at 12:50 (5,505 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338585 , Reply# 4 3/29/2009 at 13:34 (5,505 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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madness takes it toll
HA HA IM FOOKIN MAD STILL MATEY!!!!!!!!!!!! slap slap............... right it is a 3243H............ohhhhhhhh yes ill keep this baby.................ill have to make room..........hmm that electra dryer might have to go Matt had gone but i rang him straight away i found out i had one, i rang him when i picked it up. It is a lucky thing in a way, coz my mate was at this site and the guy running the site told him about it and showed him it, my mate confirmed it was what i wanted and then rang me.........i then rang Mathew.......I still cant beleive it...........it is in better condition than i ever thought it would be.................Mathew says i can test it by pushing certain contacts inside.........but of course ill need the keyplate to really try it. When i get it to the garage ill do some proper pictures of it............ It will take a time to get used to the idea that at last one has turned up Mathew was here most of Friday, he fixed the Creda sensor dry, a wire had come off one of the switches........so that was good and it is a realy quiet nice machine, so well built We yacked and chatted about Hoover 99% of the time, i played him the keymatic advertising record i bought (more than one play is enough to drive you round the bend)..........and compared brochures (my other half stayed upstairs :-)....) We had a good time, and of course he has brought me good luck this weekend i feel........ So i suppose i am member of the keymatic club now...........KIN ELL Blah blah blah | ||
| Post# 338593 , Reply# 6 3/29/2009 at 14:22 (5,505 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Just had word from Mathew - he is driving back and is 'still shaking' from your call Gary. I really am starting to well up and i know he will be too, when he sees it. Ahhhh God! paul p.s dont pension of the electra, just yet Gary! right - Homework. | ||
| Post# 338594 , Reply# 7 3/29/2009 at 14:29 (5,505 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 338714 , Reply# 9 3/30/2009 at 02:25 (5,504 days old) by timon90 (Norway) | ||
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| Post# 338730 , Reply# 10 3/30/2009 at 06:50 (5,504 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 338733 , Reply# 11 3/30/2009 at 07:21 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keymatic
PAUL I hope you have calmed down now........... MARK Thanks for your comments aswell, and welcome back here :-) And to all who have been supportive......... I have put a crap vid on youtube, i plugged it in and it worked as you can see, but the pump was seized (no problem really) The big problem as Paul has mentioned is getting a keyplate for it............... CLICK HERE TO GO TO electron1100's LINK 
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| Post# 338734 , Reply# 12 3/30/2009 at 07:22 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338735 , Reply# 13 3/30/2009 at 07:23 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338736 , Reply# 14 3/30/2009 at 07:24 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338737 , Reply# 15 3/30/2009 at 07:24 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338738 , Reply# 16 3/30/2009 at 07:25 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338739 , Reply# 17 3/30/2009 at 07:25 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338740 , Reply# 18 3/30/2009 at 07:26 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338741 , Reply# 19 3/30/2009 at 07:27 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338742 , Reply# 20 3/30/2009 at 07:32 (5,504 days old) by mark1973 () | ||
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Hi Gary All I can say is WOW!! It's a simply stunning machine and I so love the different coloured lights to tell you what stage of the programme it's at. What amazing condition for being 37 this year. Im in ore!! Mark x | ||
| Post# 338743 , Reply# 21 3/30/2009 at 07:36 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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keymatic
Hello Mark Thanks for your comments, i am in ore myself to be honest, it must have been kept somewhere dry and warm......and the biggest shock was when i switched on and it started to working with no keyplate....... so quickly switched it off and used my camera to take a movie of it. The pump had seized but i freed that off. GRRRRR all i want is a keyplate or two, i dont know how many this machine had. Have a good day Gary | ||
| Post# 338748 , Reply# 22 3/30/2009 at 07:48 (5,504 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK) | ||
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Rob F*** the pyramids, we need to see the 8th wonder of the world. Gary so happy for you and us all, will email you later when I get back from work, enjoy your very special day. Mathew | ||
| Post# 338754 , Reply# 24 3/30/2009 at 08:19 (5,504 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Two keyplates Gary - 13 wash programmes + Spin + Prewash + Special Treatments. 16 programmes divided over two keyplates, with 4 programmes each side of each key. If you need servicing info drop a request on here and info will be forthcoming from someone - me included. Paul | ||
| Post# 338756 , Reply# 25 3/30/2009 at 08:24 (5,504 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 338761 , Reply# 26 3/30/2009 at 08:45 (5,504 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 338762 , Reply# 27 3/30/2009 at 08:59 (5,504 days old) by mark1973 () | ||
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Paul I have some pics of a real life 3062 if you want them for your files? Mark Still amazed at the 3243....Beautiful | ||
| Post# 338763 , Reply# 28 3/30/2009 at 09:00 (5,504 days old) by koalas () | ||
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you're very lucky. It's a wonderful washing machine. I'd like to read the user's book if somebody can mail it... | ||
| Post# 338766 , Reply# 30 3/30/2009 at 09:06 (5,504 days old) by mark1973 () | ||
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Forgot to mention that I love the detergent dispenser design. How long did they have that design for? Prefer that one to the later one they had like on the 3060. Was it that clean when you got it Gary? Can't see any detergent / softener deposits! Mark | ||
| Post# 338774 , Reply# 31 3/30/2009 at 09:33 (5,504 days old) by mark1973 () | ||
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Heres the pics for you Paul We must have posted at exactly the same time as I didn't see your answer to my question. The 3243H is still much better looking!!!! Im not trying to nick your thread Gary! Mark 
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| Post# 338775 , Reply# 32 3/30/2009 at 09:34 (5,504 days old) by mark1973 () | ||
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| Post# 338776 , Reply# 33 3/30/2009 at 09:34 (5,504 days old) by mark1973 () | ||
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| Post# 338787 , Reply# 35 3/30/2009 at 10:07 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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keyplates and pictures
What a loveley set of pictures mind they all better than mine as they have the keyplates, that short burst of activity is all im gonna see until i get some keyplates.......... I was wondering about making one, im pretty handy at that sort of thing, i would need a template though. in the mean time yes if anyone can guide me as to which switches do what i can play a bit with it. Mark No i havent cleaned it apart from some cobwebbs underneath, i like the soap draw aswell, the fabric condiitoner tray is clean aswell so maybe they never used the stuff. Paul It is in very ggod condition, there are some tiny rust spots on the door and the body, but this is totally acceptable considering its age. here is a fot of the back as you can see the mains lead and hose was chopped but i have these as spares so that was no problem All i can say is KEYPLATES.........WAAAAAAAAAAA Ta ta for now lads 
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| Post# 338819 , Reply# 37 3/30/2009 at 14:07 (5,504 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Here you are Mathew........ always up for a 'What might have been....' rendition. No porthole door on the dryer - wouldnt be seen for another three years or so. looks quite groovy in my eyes. very smart. Paul 
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| Post# 338821 , Reply# 38 3/30/2009 at 14:12 (5,504 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 338951 , Reply# 40 3/31/2009 at 01:49 (5,503 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Hoover re-designs
Morning Paul Yes it has now my mind has switched in to "get it sorted" mode........so i will be making a big effort to find some plates for it. But of course i might get some and then find other problems but that doesnt worry me I am glad to have what i have, mind the plates in the 3062 could work probably similar programmer etc. But like you i work from home 4 days a week to make a living and today i must do that. So all of you who have contributed thanks for you comments and time. Watch this space Gary | ||
Post# 338988 , Reply# 41 3/31/2009 at 07:28 (5,503 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Keymatic Mania!!!
Congrats Gary, another model in the chain found....yay!!!, looks in fine fettle as well, I was thrown when I first saw it and you said it was a 3234H, I always thought that it was the one in the pic below.....according to the keyplate it has models 3234 & 3234H on, "Whats the difference Paul??" You would think that they way they where promoted that "Any Keyplate fits all", not so....most of them had different / upgraded programmers etc....the morning I was setting up the Keymatic for the film shoot on history channell I couldnt find the dam keyplates anywhere, I have a stash and thought just use the nearest which was the A3062???....not so, would work it any any near model to the A3008.... Heres the one that got away, unless a member here is hiding it!!!...LOl so is this the 3234??? Mark, where did you get the A3062 machine, lovely Job!!!machine 
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Post# 338989 , Reply# 42 3/31/2009 at 07:30 (5,503 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 338990 , Reply# 43 3/31/2009 at 07:31 (5,503 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 338991 , Reply# 44 3/31/2009 at 07:33 (5,503 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 338993 , Reply# 45 3/31/2009 at 07:51 (5,503 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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A3234 / 3234H Keyplate.... | ||
| Post# 338999 , Reply# 46 3/31/2009 at 08:08 (5,503 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keyplate
Thankyou very very much.........(kisses feet) I have been on the phone a bit this morning ringing round local shops to see if i can find them. Most have had loads and dumped them (like most old parts)one guy was fascinated to think that there are people around who collect old machines........ So your generosity is much appreciated I have sent you an email with details. Gary | ||
| Post# 339001 , Reply# 47 3/31/2009 at 08:22 (5,503 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keyplates
I did wonder if they could be used in other machines, i presumed that a keyplate would operate a small series of machines, and when they introduced new programmes etc it would as you say be updated. The programmer in the 3008 looks the same as the 3243H but i would guess there are a few differences. This keymatic has worn me out in some ways..............because i like others have wanted one for so long, now its here, my mind is still a bit dazed about it and i am constantly thinking of what might need doing etc, like Paul i work at home 4 days a week and am finding it very hard to concentrate. Like now i had to come here and see if anything is happening, my other half likes the machine, but still thinks i need a rest in a home for the bewildered because of all the time and effort i put in to these machines He was shocked that Mathew and i sat downstairs talking about machines etc for so long..........could have gone on more :-) but a bit like Mark in Scotland we are a bit isolated being at the ends of this country, though i realise none of us are exactly around the corner to each other So again thank you to all of you who have been supportive and generous with you comments and help :-) When it is working obviously i will do vids etc, but i mentioned to Mathew about taking it to him for a meeting and to meet others here, dont book yet because he hasnt replied to that email yet Gary | ||
| Post# 339059 , Reply# 48 3/31/2009 at 13:28 (5,503 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys) | ||
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| Post# 339060 , Reply# 49 3/31/2009 at 13:36 (5,503 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 339067 , Reply# 50 3/31/2009 at 14:04 (5,503 days old) by mark1973 () | ||
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Yey!! The Keymatic will get it's Keyplate. Lots of fun ahead! Im still so excited about it. Mark x | ||
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Post# 339082 , Reply# 51 3/31/2009 at 14:49 (5,503 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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| Post# 339085 , Reply# 52 3/31/2009 at 14:58 (5,503 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Post# 339149 , Reply# 53 3/31/2009 at 19:42 (5,503 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) |
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WOW! I am shaking with excitement too. I saw the Human League in concert last night and then I log onto Automatic Washer and see this! Beautiful machine indeed. So sad to see that Hoover is no longer going to be making these Welsh machines any more. All this and Roberts Apex its been an exciting week. | ||
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Post# 339318 , Reply# 55 4/1/2009 at 12:51 (5,502 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 339320 , Reply# 56 4/1/2009 at 12:54 (5,502 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 339324 , Reply# 57 4/1/2009 at 12:58 (5,502 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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| Post# 339334 , Reply# 58 4/1/2009 at 13:55 (5,502 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Programmers
OHHHHHHH MY BRAIN HURTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL..........well Mike your timing coudnt be better as i have just received the diagrams for the 3243H..........absolutely amazing such a simple idea at a basic operation level............but of course from little building blocks do grow huge massive skyscrapers I was even comparing the plates in the picture you showed of the stack of them......in a way i want to get stuck striaght into it.............but my head is so full of ideas,questions etc that it is going to explode. This is a huge subject, i used to think that ordinary mechanical programmers were a peice of cake, but these with the extra mech and bits so you dont have to turn a nob........just push a card in, oh feck i am getting excited just thinking about it............ all will be revealed in time. That German advert is brilliant what a find it looks great Paul Well thanks a lot as well.........im going to drown in a sea of keyplates and washing machines.........i need a week off work to get all this sorted..........Time bloody Time...... But the machine is here all is well and im going slowly mad with it :-) I was planning on overhauling the A3308 drum needs changing and a few things.............well that has gone out the window now.........this old mechanical logic controlled machine is taking its place :-) It is a 4kg load and 720rpm spin i am so interested in this machine.........HELP.........one cup of tea after another.....smoke smoke.......... Well tomorrow i get a break as i have to go work and see what turns up, DONT EVEN SAY another KEYMATIC christ what a thing that would be.......... Well chaps as you can see i am rambling out a load of old sh.t here so i am going to retire But again THANKS TO YOU ALL your all bloody diamonds :-) | ||
| Post# 339555 , Reply# 59 4/2/2009 at 14:27 (5,501 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 339716 , Reply# 61 4/3/2009 at 14:49 (5,500 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keymatic IT WORKS!!!
Well lads what can I say...............fookin ell thats what. Put a hose pipe on her, plugged in got the hang of the keyplate (thanks again Mike)........switched on and hey presto! click click whirr whirrr........pump pump..........more clicks and whirrs..........small puddle appearing (ignored it)...........eventually filled up and up and up and up.......checked pressure switch and pipe (all ok)........then I wacked the water inlet valve the water stopped filling .........also noticed small leak was turning in to a bloody big puddle, which i was stood in! 1st problem Pump leaking- swapped for later hoover one, the cause was the "o ring" seal on pump shagged, have done that now 2nd problem BIG LEAK, door boot tiny hole, took it out used liquid rubber tyre seal (courtesey of ATS tyres), repaired :-)....put back door boot turned 180 degrees though to be safe, sorted no door boot leaks 3rd problem Cold water inlet valve sticking brought it home took it apart and cleaned up tested and it works so i shall put back on the lovely machine next week New parts required Drive belt, the old one has a permanant kink in it from where it has stood so long The Machine BLOODY MARVELOUS!........fantastic sounds from the programmer and the motor.........i love it sooooooo mechanical, uses water though, i have seen this feature on a bendix autowasher 500, filling with water whilst pumping out (clears the sump of soapy water. Also if you open the soap draw when it is filling it shuts off, there is a switch on the draw (unusual idea) The soap draw works really well, there is a massive gush of water at the front so no chance of soap powders being left in there :-) I have done two programmes Special Treatments and a pre-wash, that went through, heated the water (bout 30 degrees) pumped out and again flushed out the sump?? hmm maybe the faulty inlet valve at work there. What a brilliant machine........i had mild palputations this morning..........i videod it in three section and have deleted one of them DOH! and i took fots of the pump swap and then deleted them instead of saving them........see the affect this machine is having on me..........brain ache I am totally convinced of this machines capabilties.......well built, fantastic design i love it here is a link to the remaining two vids oh and the one fot i didnt delete after i had finished all my testing and fiddling about So again thanks a million I will do more vids as i get it more sorted, speaking of which thi was the first time i had used the video thingy and i didnt have the brightness settings set properly, but i will get the hang of that aswell CLICK HERE TO GO TO electron1100's LINK 
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| Post# 339731 , Reply# 63 4/3/2009 at 15:44 (5,500 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK) | ||
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well done Gary on a great days work, several annoying problems, but your're well on the way. Enjoyed the vids too, I could listen to that timer advance for hours. Now what will come in this weekend lol. Mathew | ||
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Post# 339762 , Reply# 64 4/3/2009 at 18:02 (5,500 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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| Post# 339809 , Reply# 65 4/4/2009 at 01:14 (5,499 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Kwik Valve pic
Here you are Mike fot of the inlet valves, there is a fot of the tray way up on this thread but i will remove the tray and do some more indepth fots for you There is a restrictor fitted to the inlet anyway,I have removed the inlet filter to clean it out so maybe Pauls comments are correct, becuase there is a fantastic flow of water in the tray, thankfully it hasnt leaked. Oh yes that programmer sounds lovely far more heavy duty sounding than the ones in the Logic machines 
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| Post# 339814 , Reply# 66 4/4/2009 at 03:18 (5,499 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 339815 , Reply# 67 4/4/2009 at 03:27 (5,499 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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Post# 339818 , Reply# 68 4/4/2009 at 03:57 (5,499 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hi Chris, what where the last keymatics in Australia?? was it the wide bodied?? Hi Gary, if you have a pic of the tray and gubbins under the worktop that would be fab, the next series had a different tray see below, so the A3234 was unique, did all the matchboxes have this style of tray?? I want to compare workings!!! A3008 below 
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| Post# 339821 , Reply# 69 4/4/2009 at 04:12 (5,499 days old) by mark1973 () | ||
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Fab Gary!! Loved the vids. You are doing really well with getting it sorted. It's great there is nothing major wrong with it. Thankfully the rear seal wasn't leaking. Looking forward to watching it with a load in. Mark x | ||
| Post# 339823 , Reply# 70 4/4/2009 at 04:17 (5,499 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 339824 , Reply# 71 4/4/2009 at 04:53 (5,499 days old) by deeprinser () | ||
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Hello. What a find ! It looks like its been looked after quite well. Love the lights on the control panel.. Please post videos of her in action . Regards. Lou. | ||
| Post# 339825 , Reply# 72 4/4/2009 at 05:00 (5,499 days old) by deeprinser () | ||
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Hi Again. Thanks for the YT link for the video. Lou. | ||
| Post# 339826 , Reply# 73 4/4/2009 at 05:08 (5,499 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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Mike.. From what I understand, the last of the Keymatics in Oz were the 'original' shape. When Hoover UK changed to the classic front load design, Hoover Australia started to import the more basic model as their front load option though Brisnat may be able to clarify that. When we stopped importing them from the UK in the mid-late 1970's, Hoover started local manufacture. Australian made machines lost the detergent drawer which is one way to spot an Australian made early machine from an imported one. We had no detergent drawer until about 1989-1990. All was forgiven when the last of the model 520 'Zodiacs' (as the later series became known) and Hoover reintroduced the detergent drawer on the 530 'Electra' series until the withdrawal of local manufacture of front load machines in about 1998-1999. Until this point, ALL non-Keymatic front load machines in Oz were effectively 'matchbox' machines. The lid off pic above of the keymatic is EXACTLY what my 1994 Electra looked like inside with 2 minor differences. The timer (of course) and the drum was stainless steel. Even the detergent drawer is the same and I will take a punt that looking at the pic, the right hand side is hot water intake and the left is cold. On our machines there was a small 'J' shaped stainless 'tag' that you needed to depress under the detergent drawer to be able to remove it. Is this the case on the UK machines? Here is a pic of a 1994/1995 Hoover Electra 550 (no heater) borrowed from a previous post. The door when shut does sit proud of the machine just as it should... 
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| Post# 339833 , Reply# 75 4/4/2009 at 06:15 (5,499 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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...a couple in this thread.. The Zodiac 520 is the last of the non-drawer Australian Hoovers and looks very similar to the 3235 as above. There is also a good summary of the machines in this link, though the spin speed may be incorrect for some as I thought that my aunts Zodiac 475 spun at 750rpm from what I remember reading in the manual. The Zodiacs all had 5 rinses as did the first 2 Electra models (530 and 540). When the Electra 550 came out as the 'Electra economiser' they had reduced the rinses to 3 with a distributed intermittant 800rpm (max rpm) spin between them. This was a 'proper' distributed spin and were the first of the local machines to have one. Additionally, they also had a water level sensor so as the load absorbed it would take more water in.... The 550 is a great machine and almost unbreakable when not abused. Mine is still going strong at a mates and is now over 15yrs old. In that time it has had a drive belt, door boot and a split dispenser inlet hose replaced.... CLICK HERE TO GO TO ronhic's LINK | ||
| Post# 339839 , Reply# 77 4/4/2009 at 08:07 (5,499 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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I wouldn't be surprised if many Zodiac parts were usable especially chassis/suspension bits and doors... ..and I often wonder if the reason Hoover Australia stopped making front load machines just as they were becoming more and more popular was because some of the parts may have been made in the UK and possibly stockpiled here. Given that the basic chassis of the machine dated to the early 1970's and Hoover UK updated to a different machine, it is possible. They switched to importing a rebadged Beko and a Hoover 1200rpm spin machine....the Beko's are not common and not a patch on the Electra which was about the same money and the real Hoover was expensive and competed with Bosch on price.... | ||
| Post# 339947 , Reply# 79 4/4/2009 at 18:03 (5,499 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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Paul
The Apollo dryers were always able to be stacked on the top of the machine with a stacking frame. The frame will fit any matchbox machine. As a result, the dryers are slightly smaller than the washer both in height and width. 'Apollo' dryers (and the last ones were also badged Westinghouse) were made in 3.5 and 5kg capacities with the later ones available as both single direction, reverse tumbling and reverse tumbling with sensors. An external drying rack was available as an option on lower models and standard on higher ones. It attached so that it hung above the door regardless of if the dryer was right way up or upside down (2 sets of holes!). Was a great idea that allowed you to hang shirts, say, on hangers in front of the door exhaust - effectively getting double use of the hot air. Apollo dryers all front vented. I have a feeling that the current range of Haier dryers that we get here are very simmilar and have the same drying rack. Even the sides and front of the machine look the same as does the door vent pressing on the inside and the way the filter attaches. I've attached the Haier electronic dryer page. My guess is that the Apollo was based on the equivalent UK Hoover design. It would be logical. CLICK HERE TO GO TO ronhic's LINK | ||
| Post# 339950 , Reply# 80 4/4/2009 at 18:39 (5,499 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Wow My god Electron 1100, your machine looks in fantastic condition. Its a great pity they dont make them like that anymore. Paul | ||
| Post# 339985 , Reply# 82 4/4/2009 at 23:38 (5,498 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 340005 , Reply# 83 4/5/2009 at 01:19 (5,498 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keymatic
Hello All PAUL Relaxing???........no I work weekends but it is a break in a way....nothing came in work but there is always today (Sunday) Mike Yep no problems this coming week i dare say i will back to the garage so i take some fots of the top for you Newave1/deeprinser/paulinroyton/74simon Thanks for your comments I am chuffed to bits about it. Mark Glad you like them, i do plan on doing a wash but i need to go through a few things before i commit clothes to the machine also i am waiting for the drive belt to arrive, speaking of which has your capacitor arrived? TO ALL I have at last found the last vid i did (having lost it in the computer somewhere) it is the final part of the special treatments programme and posted it on youtube. Ronhic I find it interesting that Hoover never made it over there, but then i am no marketing expert who were the brand leaders | ||
| Post# 340023 , Reply# 84 4/5/2009 at 03:35 (5,498 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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Gary
Hoover only ever imported the Keymatic during the 1960's until the change to the 'matchbox' and then stopped importing the keymatic and imported the more basic British Hoover front loader. Normally only one model and with dual hot/cold intake. They did manufacture front loaders here from the late 1970's (I think) until about 1998-1999ish. But again, only 2 models. One with a heater and one without otherwise identical models. What you need to remember is that while front loaders have been available here since the late 1940s Bendix, they were horrendously expensive compared to a wringer, twin tub or later, automatic top loaders. Biggest selling brands and all top loaders, have tended to be Simpson, Westinghouse, Hoover (top loaders), Malleys-whirlpool during the 60's-80's. Things have changed now. Fisher and Paykel followed by Simpson/electrolux and then the rest. Hoover no longer exist in whitegoods in this country as they effectively became part of Electrolux as did Westinghouse who appear to be on the way out too... Hoover were the only manufacturer to build front load machines in Australia...at least as far as I know... | ||
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Post# 340135 , Reply# 85 4/5/2009 at 15:39 (5,498 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Hi Ron, I did have another thought during the night about a possible Hotpoint UK connection. The early F&P washers were Hotpoint clones from the UK. So perhaps the dryers started out as Hotpoint clones also. Just another thought in a tangled web :) | ||
| Post# 340149 , Reply# 86 4/5/2009 at 16:35 (5,498 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 340383 , Reply# 87 4/6/2009 at 15:26 (5,497 days old) by ozhoover (Melbourne, Australia, but now living in London) | ||
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Chris, The Keymatic was also made in Australia at one point. I had always thought that both models sold in OZ where imported from the UK. I was shocked when I found my one to find it was made at Medowbank, Sydney Mark 
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| Post# 340385 , Reply# 88 4/6/2009 at 15:26 (5,497 days old) by ozhoover (Melbourne, Australia, but now living in London) | ||
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| Post# 340430 , Reply# 91 4/6/2009 at 16:42 (5,497 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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Sheeesh
Well there goes that too.... I NEVER knew that they actually build the keymatic in Oz. All of the machines that I have seen in the past and spoken to people about were all made in the UK or I was told they were. Now I am more peeved than ever that we didn't get the later versions. BTW....if anyone in OZ sees a working keymatic that they don't want, please think of me... ;) | ||
| Post# 340650 , Reply# 93 4/7/2009 at 13:01 (5,496 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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KEYMATICS
blah blah blah.........tic toc tic toc....BANG!!!!!! Hello chaps me again.......... Where to begin. MIKE Here are some shots of the top of my machine for you to compare, they look the same to me. DOWN UNDER LADS Incredible that Hoover no longer exist there, mind they hardly exist in this country............but Thanks Ozhoover for posting that lovely pic of an Australian made keymatic, it looks lovely with the timeline display. PAUL You must be close to exhaustion!..........with your own lovely purple one pumping around :-)........and all this keymatic/Zanussi/Bendix/Computer control/Alpha stuff going on, i cant keep up with what i have going on...........geeze Computer Control Took it too garage plugged it in (sod safety test first)......all worked, motor brushes are going and has a slight leak from rear of tub, nout terrible so thas ok. Keymatic No time today to play so just took shots for Mike, new belt arrived........... ME I am F..ked, so nackered with this and work and more work im going to explode.......... THIS GROUP Excellent everybody i just do not have the time to take part in all thats going on, which annoys me Series of shots to follow Tata lads Thanks Gary 
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| Post# 340651 , Reply# 94 4/7/2009 at 13:02 (5,496 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keymatic Fots | ||
| Post# 340653 , Reply# 95 4/7/2009 at 13:02 (5,496 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keymatic Fots | ||
| Post# 340654 , Reply# 96 4/7/2009 at 13:03 (5,496 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 340655 , Reply# 97 4/7/2009 at 13:05 (5,496 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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| Post# 341336 , Reply# 98 4/10/2009 at 07:54 (5,493 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK) | ||
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3203 keymatic deluxe just testing my new found image resizing gizmo, I don't know I've got the hang of it yet, I'm more a mechanical, belts and motors type. So as this was a keymatic thread, here is the 1967 model. Have a great easter weekend, Mathew 
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| Post# 341345 , Reply# 99 4/10/2009 at 09:00 (5,493 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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3203
AWWWW dont yah just wanna go up and hug it :-).......lovely lovely..........except for the that flashy ORANGE keyplate doesnt match the machine yerr need to get rid of that Mathew:-) it looks lovely Mathew and the fot is good aswell. Well, I spent a few hours with mine this morning, fitted new drive belt, the repaired inlet valve works fine, repaired pump started leaking, i think this time from the actual seal (back to the drawing board), then...........the tub outlet hose started dripping........oh and the new outlet hose.............I snagged it...... So replaced tub hose, put back later hoover pump and gaff taped the outlet hose. all good Put it on a "heavy soil coloureds" wash, high level pre-wash... great (green light lit up...........emptied went onto the main wash (hot fill only)..............gaaaaaaa hardly any water getting through, checked everything and decided it was the inlet valve.......replaced it with another hot water inlet valveer flooding into soap draw, success wat........went through wash programme (interesting mix of gentle/normal wash action with a no agitation heating stage, then back to normal wash action with heating, oh yes main wash blue light on.........then went into rinse cycles and final long spin.............very happy that programmer etc side is fine........... I like this machine more and more even though it is testing me at times but nothing terrible The inlet valve problem is due to a small rubber bung that sits on the end of the steel shaft that is drawn downwards when the coil is energised, this bung swells up with age, and catches the tube it sits in so i have carefully trimmed the rubber bung on the sides so it moves freely in and out. Well next week if i am lucky i actually do a wash in him.......yah never know Tata Gary | ||
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Post# 341349 , Reply# 100 4/10/2009 at 09:14 (5,493 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 341372 , Reply# 101 4/10/2009 at 11:55 (5,493 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Post# 341529 , Reply# 102 4/11/2009 at 04:01 (5,492 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Powder Tray
Thanks for the pics Gary, this type of detergent dispenser was only ever used on the series of machine!! from the inside does the water just come in through the two holes or does it have a spray or filters throughout the tray with lots of holes etc?? You could certainly imagine there would be a flood when opening the drawer due to how near the front of the tray they are... Mathew, pics are great, no probs!!!look forward to seeing more!!! Cheers, Mike | ||
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Post# 341535 , Reply# 103 4/11/2009 at 04:52 (5,492 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 341540 , Reply# 104 4/11/2009 at 05:56 (5,492 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Who`s Is This...!!!!
Ohhhh Just look at these beautys!!! more pics added to Alan & George..yayyyy...!!! Mathew..It Could be yours!!!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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Post# 341542 , Reply# 105 4/11/2009 at 06:19 (5,492 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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And The Beginning...!!!!
All Thanks to Mr Gibson of Bellvue, Iowa, & Mr. Colston, MD of Hoover UK for running with the idea.....I heard they met on one of the "Hoover Camps" annual big meets in North Canton.....small world, big business...
CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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| Post# 341545 , Reply# 106 4/11/2009 at 07:41 (5,492 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK) | ||
So according to the above advert there were more than 285,00 | ||
| Post# 341816 , Reply# 107 4/12/2009 at 13:46 (5,491 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Soap Draw Mike
Hello Mike There are circular rings under the tubes where they go into the soap draw, these have i think about 4 holes in them that fire the water in all directions, it certainly works well, and yes the force and amount of water in there whilst it is filling could cause problems if you opened the draw, but this has a cut out switch on that switches off the machine if you do this I am still puzzled as to how to remove the soap draw........ah well it will reveal itself in time. The fot of all those Keymatics is stunning, where are they all now as Seamus asks Also that website about Hoover is compulsive viewing some one should make a programme about Hoover and release it.....that would be brilliant Right i might get a chance this week to do a wash which i shall vid for youtube ill let you all know Again thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread Gary | ||
| Post# 342774 , Reply# 111 4/16/2009 at 15:29 (5,487 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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and a nice piccy of the Australian 'Zodiac 12'. This would be a late 1980s machine? Paul 
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| Post# 342775 , Reply# 112 4/16/2009 at 15:33 (5,487 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 342784 , Reply# 113 4/16/2009 at 15:43 (5,487 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Has anyone seen, have or had the Hoover Keymatic pictured in post#338756 above - 4th machine in the 1st column (has buttons and knobs on the top instead of the front and looks like it has a LCD display)? | ||
| Post# 342801 , Reply# 115 4/16/2009 at 17:01 (5,487 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 342808 , Reply# 118 4/16/2009 at 17:39 (5,487 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
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mystery switch | ||
| Post# 343253 , Reply# 119 4/18/2009 at 02:20 (5,485 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keymatic Vids
Morning All Did my first wash friday (skived off work) All went well, interesting rinse cycle, there are 4 rinses in total. 1st dilution, no spin 2nd dilution short spin 3rd dilution no spin 4th fabric conditioner final long spin The water was clear by the 3rd rinse, the machine performed wonderfully, washing was clean as a whistle, no glitches even the suspension coped well, the only thing is of course the spin speed! (720 rpm)........upside very little creasing though I have a few more vids to sort out and upload. Ill be back Gary CLICK HERE TO GO TO electron1100's LINK | ||
| Post# 343656 , Reply# 121 4/20/2009 at 07:53 (5,483 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keymatic find
Bit of a strange weekend at work for bits. Went in Saturday and in our metal skip was (no shouting Paul)..........a worktop cover for i guess either my machine or any of the matchbox series machines It is identical to mine except the aluminium trim around the edges is smooth and not ribbed,also where it was thrown in the skip it has hit the corner of something which has knocked a small hole in it, but i reckon i could do this,finding this sent me frantically going through our electrical skip but nothing there :-( Then Sunday a Hoover motor turned up in a box, very old type i think it is a Hoover 800 motor but im not sure yet Then some old taps came in with, Hoover tap adaptors fitted to them, only one of them had the brass bayonnet fitting adaptor, i have never seen these before, I presume them to be for a twin tub or possible the first Keymatic I must get out more often :-) Ill try an get the rest of the vids sorted 
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| Post# 344049 , Reply# 122 4/22/2009 at 00:45 (5,481 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Keymatic Vids
Morning All i have posted another 3 vids of the keymatic rinsing, takes ages to get them on youtube anyway enjoy CLICK HERE TO GO TO electron1100's LINK | ||
| Post# 344686 , Reply# 123 4/25/2009 at 13:35 (5,478 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Great vids Gary. Still lovin' this machine! Keep em coming. paul p.s the keyplate we have is for the A3062 and is beige/cream -same colour as the one mike sent you. The search for the other 3243H Keyplate continues..... | ||
| Post# 344848 , Reply# 124 4/26/2009 at 02:13 (5,477 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Vids
Morning Paul Im glad you like them, ill get the hang of using the camera better eventually Thanks for checking your keyplate, much appreciatted. Tell me do you want me to keep the micro tronic front panel and circuit boards i stripped of a machine for you. That Zodiac is rather nifty looking me thinks Gary | ||
| Post# 345285 , Reply# 126 4/28/2009 at 12:46 (5,475 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Microtronic bits | ||
| Post# 345929 , Reply# 127 5/1/2009 at 13:59 (5,472 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Retro Machines | ||
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