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Post# 338607   3/29/2009 at 16:15 (5,499 days old) by bygted ()        

I am thinking early 60's ?
But, would like to know an exact year.





Post# 338609 , Reply# 1   3/29/2009 at 16:17 (5,499 days old) by bygted ()        
dash

They are both super clean - I went to the house to get a fridge and ended up finding these fellas and a nice Kitchen Aid dishwasher!

Post# 338610 , Reply# 2   3/29/2009 at 16:18 (5,499 days old) by bygted ()        
Ahhh Stainless !

This was super clean as well - I love the pink on stainless contrast.

Post# 338614 , Reply# 3   3/29/2009 at 16:56 (5,499 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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1965 or 1966, friends of my parents had this exact set in coppertone. This was my favorite, if not 2nd all time favorite kenmore. I loved the flexibility due to the speed control knob on the right combined with the cold water rinse or wash or auto slider. The only one that would topp this would be equivalent, but non-alphabet washing based machine, which neighbors had.

Post# 338615 , Reply# 4   3/29/2009 at 16:58 (5,499 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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As for the dishwasher, friends in Dallas had this exact model, including the stainless front, when they built a house in 1965 or 1966. Served a family of 6 (plus all the teenager's friends) as well as large extended family. The machine was still going when the house was sold in 1988 or so.

Post# 338616 , Reply# 5   3/29/2009 at 17:00 (5,499 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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As for the washer, I can't remember if it said wash 'n' wear or permanent press whites and colors for those two cycles (or if it had both).

Post# 338638 , Reply# 6   3/29/2009 at 18:56 (5,499 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

Beautiful Kenmores, I would love to have them. Nice KitchenAid as well.

Post# 338640 , Reply# 7   3/29/2009 at 18:57 (5,499 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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wow, that imperial was the same DW that my grandparents' house had. when they sold the house back in 1999, that machine was still running fine, with the help of a new door seal, and i think a new motor back in the 80s.
that thing was a tank, seriously, should've named it Sherman.


Post# 338648 , Reply# 8   3/29/2009 at 19:05 (5,499 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
1960's Kenmore Washer & Dryer Set.....

I think 1966...... I have a picture of a similar set in my 1968 Sears Catalogs, but with redesigned control panels.

Funny thing is, I used to think that these were #2 Kenmores..... That was right up until I find that Keyboard Push-Button Model 900's have also existed during the same era.

Now..... I guess that would make these #3 Kenmores (I would think so because of the deluxe feature set on these machines).... right???

--Charles--


Post# 338650 , Reply# 9   3/29/2009 at 19:07 (5,499 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
An Addend......

I wonder is that's a two-speed machine??? Or is that a three-speed machine???

The ones that are pictured in my 1968 Sears Catalogs are three-speed machines.

--Charles--


Post# 338677 , Reply# 10   3/29/2009 at 21:36 (5,499 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Charles, if this is indeed the 66 like I thought it might be, it's only 2 speed.

Post# 338681 , Reply# 11   3/29/2009 at 21:50 (5,499 days old) by tlee618 ()        

1966 for sure, my parents bought that set in coppertone. By far the best set we ever had!!!

Post# 338693 , Reply# 12   3/29/2009 at 22:43 (5,499 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)        
Model and serial numbers

Hi bygted:

Nice score! That Kenmore set reminds me of the ones that my parents had from '67-'75. They (unfortunately) left them there when we moved away.

If you can post the model and serial numbers I am sure someone can verify the ages of all of these fine machines.

Andrew S.


Post# 338701 , Reply# 13   3/29/2009 at 23:50 (5,499 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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bgyted -

Wow, those are beautiful machines! They look like they've been babied. Others can tell me differently, but I don't think these were very common models. Are you going to make these yours?

Charles -

I agree with you. The '68 model in my Fall/Winter catalog looks very similar, but not exact. The blue/green alphabet decoding on the washer panel is very reminiscent of the '65 Lady K washer. Interestingly, I think the '68 machine may have been one of the last if not the very last with the Roto-Flex?

I looked up both 1965 and 1966 kenmore 800 models on Sears' site. They both look very similar to this machine, with speed control switches to the right of the timer. The drawing for the '65 model looks a little bit more like this washer than the '66, but judging from an engineer's drawing to a finished product is not completely reliable. With the blueish and greenish alpha-decode legend on the panel, I'd guess a 1965 model. There were at least two 65 800s - the more common model (110.6504800) that shares the same console frame design as the Lady K, and another machine (110.6514800) which I'm thinking this one to be.

The replacement motor for the 65 model comes up as a 2-speed. The '66 and '68 machines were 3-speed. There doesn't appear to have been a '67 800 of any sort.

A model number will tell us for sure!

Gordon


Post# 338702 , Reply# 14   3/30/2009 at 00:05 (5,499 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Now I'm changing my mind - upon further study of the '65 and '66 machines, I see that the '65 seems to lack the cold/auto switch mid-panel, but it's there (or something is) in the drawing for the '66.

Post# 338706 , Reply# 15   3/30/2009 at 01:02 (5,499 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

It makes me wonder about a Kenmore set my next door neighbors had. Theirs was just like this, but with theirs the dryer knob matched that of the washer, and was not the tactile round type seen here. I don't know how many lever switches the washer had at the base of the panel. I do know that my neighbors bought their set in November 1965, so their set could have been the second version that Gordon mentions, or an early debut of the 1966 set. One way or the other, this is one beautiful set. Bygted, if you are thinking of grabbing this, go for it.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 338715 , Reply# 16   3/30/2009 at 02:56 (5,499 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
1967 Kenmore Model 800???

Gordon:

You quoted that "there doesn't appear to be a 1967 Model 800 of any sort".

My question/answer is..... You're sure??? What about the 1965 Model 800 set that you recently picked up??? That model was still available in 1967 (at least according to my 1967 Sears Catalog). Was this a continuation model that has carried over from the 1965-66 model years???

--Charles--


Post# 338725 , Reply# 17   3/30/2009 at 06:19 (5,499 days old) by bygted ()        
Model #s

Thanks to all who have posted info on the years - I did get the feeling that they were not -super common machines.
I did pick them both up the other day and they are in really great condition. I plan on running a test wash in the next few days.
I normally try to keep my collecting to the late 40's through early 60's - I will usually pass on stuff after 1963- but these have a real space age retro look and cool lighted consoles- so I might live with them for a while and see if they look good with the rest of the collection.

I think that it is a 2 speed motor - the speed control knob has many settings - but they all break down to either normal or slow.

The model # on the washer is 6614801


Post# 338767 , Reply# 18   3/30/2009 at 09:11 (5,499 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
The model # on the washer is 6614801

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Bygted -

That model number makes the machine a '66 model. I didn't see that one in my search last night, but there was a 110.660480x and a 110.661480x. The first one was the three speed machine, and yours is the two speed variant. I am really glad you got them!

Good luck and enjoy the machines!


Post# 338771 , Reply# 19   3/30/2009 at 09:30 (5,499 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Charles -

You and I have a lot of overlapping Kenmore knowledge! We seem to refer to machines differently (or from a different perspective) at times. The more I deal with machines now, and do research, etc. I "store" them in my head by their model years, which are part of the model numbers.

You're absolutely right, there were 800s offered in 1967, just not new models that were introduced as 800s during 1967 that got 1967 model numbers. Does that make sense? The only way I know that is that no data is there in Sears' site when looking up either 110.6704800 or 110.6714800, etc.

The white '65 800 that I got recently was made either in late 1966 or 1967, I can't remember at the momemt. It is 'early' enough to have a bakelite agitator but a plastic drive block on a splined shaft.

If you recall a just-archived post of a green '65 800 in Pensacola, well, that beast has found it's way to my door (strange story I'll share one day) and it was made in 1968 believe it or not! Late '68 to boot. So yes, to answer your question, the '65 800 carried over into later years, into late 1968 at least, which amazed me when I saw the model. Mine is not the last revision either, as there was one more. My model number is 110.6504806. The line started in late 1964 or early 1965 as 110.6504800, and wrapped up at 110.6504807. Each time they change the last digit, a small engineering change was made to the machine that caused a part number change in the parts list. The difference I see between my two machines involves the agitators - the white machine is bakelite, and the green one has the later polypropylene black plastic agitator. There were obviously other revisions that I can't see or haven't discovered yet as well.

But, in a nutshell, yes there were 800 series machines in 1967, just not models that were introduced that year. In all honesty there were probably several available 800s, including this '66 set.

I wish I knew why some models had such short timespans of availability, and others were out there for so long.....



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