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Post# 342729   4/16/2009 at 13:14 (5,481 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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Hey folks,

I'd like to pop the lids off my 'tags, the A702s and the A806, to clean and touch up the paint. How does one get the lid off? i don't want to stick anything metal down there to pry, for fear of damaging the finish.

Thanks in advance!





Post# 342742 , Reply# 1   4/16/2009 at 14:52 (5,481 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I just pull em off! Pull one side first, the other follows. Just make sure you see where the little white balls roll to.

Post# 342766 , Reply# 2   4/16/2009 at 15:14 (5,481 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        
(raises eyebrows)

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Okie. Lets see what happens.

I am almost certain to loose the hinge balls in the shed. (laughs).


Post# 342782 , Reply# 3   4/16/2009 at 15:41 (5,481 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Most times they drop into the tub. But not always.....

Post# 342976 , Reply# 4   4/17/2009 at 06:48 (5,480 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

I have removed the lid(s) of various Maytags both with and without prying.

The lid, once removed, makes a good template for see-through plexi-glass, lexan or other plastic transparent cover for those squemish about bypassing/disabling the lid switch....


Post# 342997 , Reply# 5   4/17/2009 at 08:51 (5,480 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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love those little balls (hehe). Why on earth did they ever stop using them?

Post# 343022 , Reply# 6   4/17/2009 at 10:57 (5,480 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)        
Why on earth did they ever stop using them?

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Why would they want a washers hinges to last a lifetime, and to NEVER rust out, and cause breakage. Big companies don't make money that way. You won't pay to fix, or get the customer to buy new if they last and have purpose like those little lid balls did. That's why the balls disappeared.

In fact the very day the last Maytag with them was built, the company lost it's balls period. And that's why they became captive to Whirlypoolapoop.

Thank god the are still plenty of units around to keep a fond memory alive...


Post# 343064 , Reply# 7   4/17/2009 at 12:51 (5,480 days old) by dblrinz ()        
Programcomputer

I hear ya man and AGREE. Who the heck was making these decisions?! I can accept the Orbital and Dependables with load sensing agi., but the rest was crap and seemed to be a duplicate in production. Though, I do love my Neptune.

As for Whirlypoolapoop - I'll take a BD surgi any day. I am sure a lot of you can point out my inaccuracy, but I don't see an improved product just affordable mediocrity with an agi that lets the masses stuff it full and still have some semblance of rollover...Not that I think the masses care.


Post# 343067 , Reply# 8   4/17/2009 at 13:37 (5,480 days old) by everythingold (Grand Rapids, Michigan)        

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I know about planned obsolescence, but those balls must have been so much cheaper than current assemblies, seems like the cost savings would have kept them around.

Post# 343074 , Reply# 9   4/17/2009 at 14:19 (5,480 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)        
lemme' digress here some...

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Whirlypoolapoop- Okay kinda unheeded, but considering that they now control most of the washer market, and do not put out the most well loved products with their fast acting clothes shredding agitation systems, and partial hot fills and other things that make washday boring and less fulfilling, do as a company have something in their formula. They have to. Look at them!!! They are unstoppable seems like...BUT...

Whirlpool once upon a time also put out some better made and less annoying stuff as we all can agree on readily. They must have done something right back then, or there would be fewer happy collectors like us, adn fewer still of the original owners still using them. No one will ever get as strong as they have putting out only caca'. Whirlpool grew positively with their alliance with Sears-Roebuck with their Kenmore brand who allowed generation after generation to buy washers and dryers on credit terms, and keeping a modicum of good quality in their products. IMHO pre-direct drive year stuff. My aunt is still scrubbing her family's drawers in her 1980 Whirlpool Supreme set similar to the ones that Matt just found in that mocha "lite" color...LOL

I guess that I'm just sad as to what many of their "Name" brands like Maytag have become. Just the same old pool of options like the guy down the row with a few different dials and buttons has. No difference, no choice.

Sorry tangent...


Chad


Post# 343086 , Reply# 10   4/17/2009 at 15:31 (5,480 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
Well put Chad.

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It is important to remember that Whirlpool was once much better than they are now. The reasons why they, and every brand they own, have fallen is because of a variety of factors.

With only 3 mainstream manufacturers left, WCI, Whirlpool, and GE, there is less pressure to be innovative or build high quality products, especially considering the offerings of the competition.

With Front Loaders taking over, I think it is doubtful any of the big 3 would invest heavily in top loader technology now.

Most consumers these days are absolutely clueless about laundry. So far as most people are concerned, as long as the clothes come out damp-dry and smelling of detergent they are clean, regardless of actual cleanliness!
If you need further proof, see how many people overload their washers habitually. Would the average user even be able to tell if the agitator dogs in a dual action type of agitator have failed? How many consumers even do any research before buying a washer or dryer these days?

As an example, my mother purchased a GE Adora set and the ONLY cycle she ever uses is the 38+ minute "Speed Wash." It neither cleans, nor rinses well. The clothes are gray and not much cleaner, but they come out damp-dry and smelling of detergent so she is satisfied.

The average consumer has about as much sense about laundry as a mud puddle, and the big 3 manufacturers are taking advantage of that by building the least expensive machines that leave the clothes damp-dry and smelling of detergent.

Rant over, I feel better now. I think I'll sit down for awhile,
Dave


Post# 343096 , Reply# 11   4/17/2009 at 16:20 (5,480 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Those Maytag hinge balls were a genius design. Has any of the longtime techs here come across a set of worn out hinge balls? I haven't heard of anyone here replacing them.

Post# 343106 , Reply# 12   4/17/2009 at 17:09 (5,480 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Hinge balls

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I've had them break before. Usually on reinstallation.

Say what you want about Whirlpool, the DD design is still one of the better designs, WRT service, simplicity, etc.


Post# 343113 , Reply# 13   4/17/2009 at 17:41 (5,480 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

Unfortunately, Whirlpool is the only choice available if you need a portable, and the newer ones have been questionable. The direct drive "shredmores", on the other hand, have a good reputation for reliability and ease of maintenance regardless of how they handle the cloths. I guess people don't expect their shirts to last very long. And of course, their competitive price and the fact that they are still made in Ohio. The simplicity and cheap price is what really sells these machines, grabbing most of General Electric's market share for top loaders.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 343131 , Reply# 14   4/17/2009 at 19:55 (5,480 days old) by dblrinz ()        

I will have to agree that the Direct Drives seem to be very reliable pieces of junk - kidding - Kind of. I have lived in multi-unit property for 13 years now and the laundry habits of most people are to me, unbelievable. Damp and smelling like detergent SEEMS to be what most are looking for. Most of our laundry rooms are equipped with orbital drive 'tags though the machines are assigned to specific units they are all in a central room including mine except for a set that is in my kitchen.

ANYWAY, Over the years with MANY different tenants of all socioeconomic backgrounds and ages I have watched them dump - DUMP a large basket of clothes of various colors in the machine. Then DUMP soap in the machine close the lid and turn it on. MANY don't even re-adjust the water level. The clothes don't move, but they are wet. The amount of soap left in the rinse is digusting. The longevity of these peoples clothing is non-existant.

Now, all of these people think I am insane for waiting for the washer to fill adding appropriate detergent and only loading so that there is proper turn over. Probably underloaded in the opinion of even this group. I won't even talk about how crazy they think my rinsing habits are...

So my point is - I really don't think that most people care how their laundry gets done and in what kind of a machine as long as it turns on every time they want to use it and (Yes I know others have said this) leave their clothes damp dry with a detergent smell.

Also, not so much for my tenants, but for those who have to buy new machines they don't want to pay a lot to replace their machines when it is needed. As for front loaders, the first thing the sales person with tell you is the amount of water you save and decreased drying time will more than make up for the higher purchase price. And while they will also speak to their clothes lasting longer, they neglect to tell them that drying all that soap residue into your clothes will kill them anyway.

My rant is complete!
Thanks - Evan - Dblrinz



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