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Post# 345473   4/29/2009 at 13:14 (5,447 days old) by whirlpolf ()        

Despite all recurring bad opinions about them, I definitely want an Oasis laundry pair. (Alternatively a Harmony set by GE). Black, charcoal or "twilight blue" preferred.

So let's say I might grab one on ebay or craiglist and want the 2 machines to get over here, does anyone know:

A) Will the frequency have any influence? 60 vs. 50 Hz - as far as I can understand any mains electricity is stepped down to 5 or 12 VDC anyhow to feed the circuits, then the stepper motors will have their own voltages and frequencies from the PCBs, right? I am using a transformer here: 220 to 110 V but 50 Hz will remain the same.

B) If all is ok, who knows a good shipping or logistics company that handles bulkier stuff like washers? How do I find the right method?

Any advice is appreciated before I buy.

Thanks all. Joe





Post# 345480 , Reply# 1   4/29/2009 at 13:40 (5,447 days old) by davek ()        
US Military

Your best bet for this kind of thing, provided it could be done at all, is to make quick friends with a member of the US military staying at a base there. I believe that on-base housing has 110v/60hz power, and they're allowed to order stuff and have it shipped.

I know that some top-load Whirlpool models are sold in the UK, but I'm not sure about the Cabrio one. Check and see if one like you want is available on their UK website. It might just be a matter of a day trip to England!

Other than that, I wouldn't do what you're doing. Motors might run slow, and I'm not sure about the other parts.

Best of luck!


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Post# 345518 , Reply# 2   4/29/2009 at 15:51 (5,447 days old) by johnny (Jacksonville, FL)        
Whirlpolf

if you find a way to ship washer from US to EU tell it to me please.
Im trying to find a way to get a toploader the last 3 years :P


Post# 345545 , Reply# 3   4/29/2009 at 18:06 (5,447 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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As one who has been attempting to have a kaltmangel sent from Germany to the United States, here is some advice: forget it! *LOL*

Unless you know of someone moving house and can add your appliance to their shipping crates, costs and proceedures involved in trans-Atlantic freight shipping are just too dear and time consuming.

The only things it makes sense to ship out of Germany are items which will meet that countries postal regulations for "large" package. Anything else is VERY expensive.

Trick for any cross ocean shipment is to find an appliance that is not very heavy nor very large. Know of spin driers sent from the UK and France, to the United States, but that is about as large as it's got.

If you truly, truly, truly wish to have an appliance shipped, you are going to have to contact a freight shipping company,or a moving service licensed to engage in such transactions. You will need someone experienced with customs and such otherwise it has happened for parcels to be kept dockside while papers are sorted out.

Whatever you do remember this, unless the object is very carefully packed, crated and so forth, there is a good chance it may arrive on your shores damaged. So it is wise to make sure whomever the seller is, knows how to properly to the thing.


Post# 345546 , Reply# 4   4/29/2009 at 18:10 (5,447 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Large USA Toploaders For Export

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There are companies who sell standard American appliances such as washing machines, dishwashers, and so forth that have been converted to 220v/50hz or at least will run on said power. Remember seeing several in the NYC "Yellow" pages months ago.

Such appliances are the normal Whirlpool, GE and so forth, and besides American military familes, are sold to persons living in countries such as Israel, who want large washing machines for their large families, and aren't happy with puny front loading washers. Since these companies are listed under "export-import", wonder if they will handle shipping as well?

L.


Post# 345714 , Reply# 5   4/30/2009 at 10:04 (5,446 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Harrods in London used to sell some American appliances as well. I read that a member of one of the German clubs ordered an American toploader and later a matching dryer from them and they delivered these appliances.

Post# 345724 , Reply# 6   4/30/2009 at 11:16 (5,446 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

I had relatives from Europe come to this country, and while visiting bought a German washer to be shipped back home.

Apparently even with two trans-atlantic voyages they claimed it was less expensive than buying it locally (i.e. local to THEM) or from Germany.

Not sure if a load had to be run through it to call it "used" or not......

Something to do with the VAT. (Value-added tax).


Post# 345740 , Reply# 7   4/30/2009 at 13:17 (5,446 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Problem comes from it being VERY expensive to freight ship just one item anywhere, and large appliances must go via freight. Freight always involves a container, so unless one can fill up said container with one order, the thing will sit until whomever can do so can. For shippers such as UPS, and FedEx, this is not usually a problem, but then the item will usually go via air, and for a large heavy item, that is costly.

IIRC, there are companies, and perhaps even UPS and FedEX that do "ground" shipping overseas to the extent containers are loaded onto ships versus airplanes, but there again you are talking big money and a long, long time before things arrive.

Only persons who truly bother shipping appliances and such are those moving house on someone else's dime. Even then persons such as diplomatic and military posts are advised to leave large appliances where they are, and purchase new upon arrival. One can find large Amercian top loaders for sale near or on US military bases, or purchase from a family that is shipping out and wants to sell theirs.

Every now and then one will see European laundry appliances that never were sold in the US on eBay or elsewhere. We can only assume such applinaces came when someone moved house and brought them over.



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