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Post# 347202   5/7/2009 at 09:15 (5,439 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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5 285 /lb washers |
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Post# 347203 , Reply# 1   5/7/2009 at 09:16 (5,439 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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Automatic cool and reversing |
Post# 347204 , Reply# 2   5/7/2009 at 09:18 (5,439 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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Feeds Irons Folds Counts and Stacks and reurn to feeders in bundles of 10 or 20 |
Post# 347254 , Reply# 3   5/7/2009 at 12:39 (5,439 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 347275 , Reply# 4   5/7/2009 at 14:51 (5,439 days old) by favorit ()   |   | |
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Hi Lee, do these washers have peristaltic pumps for liquid detergents supply ? Do liquid detergents have the same performance of powders ? T.I.A. |
Post# 347280 , Reply# 5   5/7/2009 at 15:06 (5,439 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 347284 , Reply# 6   5/7/2009 at 15:32 (5,439 days old) by animasinsulinpu ()   |   | |
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I would LOVE to work there!!!!!....Bill in Az..... |
Post# 347286 , Reply# 7   5/7/2009 at 15:39 (5,439 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 347318 , Reply# 8   5/7/2009 at 18:53 (5,439 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)   |   | |
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Post# 347456 , Reply# 13   5/8/2009 at 09:30 (5,438 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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If I have been paying attention, you work in a hospital laundry, is that correct? Or do you work for a company that installs or maintains the equipment? Did they just build a complete new laundry facility or rebuild / remodel the old one? (Hmm, that may be a silly question as they cannot do without a laundry for the months which would be required to re-build the old one.) Also, do the washers tilt as well or only the dryers? Would it be possible to get photos of the interiors of these LARGE machines? Thanks! Kevin |
Post# 347459 , Reply# 14   5/8/2009 at 09:53 (5,438 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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The washers are 285 lb and the dryers 310 lb capacity. Is that dry weight and wet weight (respectively), or dry weight for both? How do you do the loads? Meaning, since the machine capacities are different, do you do ONE washer load in ONE dryer or do you combine washer loads to fill the dryer completely? You mentioned the cycle (or turn around) times for these dryers is about 18 minutes, what is the cycle or turn around time for the washer? Are there different (wash & dry) programs you use or is it one program for all? Do you happen to know the washer program breakdown (how many washes/rinses for how many minutes)? Can you also get a photo of the dryer tilted and unloading? Thanks again! Kevin |
Post# 347541 , Reply# 16   5/8/2009 at 18:03 (5,438 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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Thanks for the info. |
Post# 347600 , Reply# 17   5/8/2009 at 23:16 (5,437 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 347616 , Reply# 18   5/8/2009 at 23:49 (5,437 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Normally have a very tight distribution system, designed for one to keep products out of domestic users hands. Ecolab for a start is very protective in keeping their "professional" and insitutional products under a tight leash. Being as the above may, some suppliers will sell to anyone, however it may not be the top shelf products, and one may have to purchase bulk quanities, such as 55lbs. The other important thing to remember is many commercial laundry products are calibrated for washing machines starting at 35lbs (dry weight) or even 50lbs, up to the behemoth washers shown above. If the product contains strong alkalines or acids, there is a risk of damaging washing machine parts if the product is not diluted properly. Sometimes customer service will work with a person who is either a non-professional or purchased product via a third party, other times (as with Ecolab), one is SOL. Ecolab for instance will only dispense "customer service" mainly via it's local reps. That is if one has questions and or problems with a product, the local rep calls to help one sort things out. |
Post# 347629 , Reply# 19   5/9/2009 at 02:18 (5,437 days old) by hooverzodiac12 (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 347641 , Reply# 21   5/9/2009 at 06:58 (5,437 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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The same as the others but extract on it is 1600 as basket is smaller but loads out of it are just a bit drier than the 285's |
Post# 347643 , Reply# 22   5/9/2009 at 07:02 (5,437 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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Anything can be programmed |
Post# 347644 , Reply# 23   5/9/2009 at 07:03 (5,437 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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nothing special at all |
Post# 347645 , Reply# 24   5/9/2009 at 07:05 (5,437 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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Already had a lot of problems with it. does not produce quality work.Would like to send it back across the pond where it came from. Freight collect! Is down more than up. |
Post# 347646 , Reply# 25   5/9/2009 at 07:06 (5,437 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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One of the clean linen rooms |
Post# 347647 , Reply# 26   5/9/2009 at 07:08 (5,437 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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There are 45 Carts each hold 500lbs of work.. When unloaded with clean shelves fold down and make a soiled cart for return to the plant. |
Post# 347746 , Reply# 28   5/9/2009 at 20:51 (5,436 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 347761 , Reply# 29   5/9/2009 at 22:38 (5,436 days old) by hooverzodiac12 (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 347762 , Reply# 30   5/9/2009 at 22:54 (5,436 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()   |   | |
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Wow sudsman!! You have an awesome job. Yeh, I want one of those machines too. |
Post# 348128 , Reply# 33   5/11/2009 at 17:21 (5,435 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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HI Lee, Thank you for all the info, this is very interesting! I'd love to come hang out and watch everything for a few hours! I have questions about the wash program you listed above. Ready? Here we go! >>Flush 3 Min Split hi level 22" Is this sort of like a "pre-wash" W/O detergent? If not, what is the purpose? What is the "split", is that the water temp? >>Wash 10 Min Hot lo level 12" It sounds like there are two water level settings, or is that also adjustable? What is >> Carry/Over? Bleach, rinse, rinse, extract, sour, etc…. >> Extract lo 1 min, Sour/Soft 5 min split lo level 12 , Final extract Hi 6 mins If the HIGH extract is 1200 RPM, what is the LO extract speed and are these adjustable as well? Also, I would assume there is at least a "drain" between the flush, wash, bleach, carry/over, rinse, rinse, etc. Is there an extract also or only a drain? 20 years ago I worked briefly at a dry cleaners (with the plant in house) and they had bought a 50 lb Unimac for their shirt laundry work. I noticed this machine had 4 speeds (wash, drain/distribute, low and then high speed extract). It also had two different motors on the same drive belt. Are any of these washers like this (2 motors)? Would it be possible to capture one of the "285" washers on video (for the sound) when going into final extract? Thanks again! Kevin |
Post# 348254 , Reply# 35   5/11/2009 at 22:59 (5,434 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 348265 , Reply# 36   5/11/2009 at 23:58 (5,434 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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These machines just blow my mind!!! I have GOT to get myself into a laundry plant to at least try working in one! I just LOVE those big washers!!!! I'm very likely headed to Clean '09 in June as well as taking that tour of the Milnor plant the day before!!! I might have to come down to Texas at some point!!
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Post# 348274 , Reply# 37   5/12/2009 at 01:53 (5,434 days old) by washerfan ()   |   | |
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sudsman: Anyway you could take some pictures of the wash tubs for us? Maybe use a yard stick or something for a visual size reference? |
Post# 348280 , Reply# 38   5/12/2009 at 04:25 (5,434 days old) by washerfan ()   |   | |
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I found this on YouTube about RAMCO washers... |
Post# 348281 , Reply# 39   5/12/2009 at 04:27 (5,434 days old) by washerfan ()   |   | |
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Well that didn't work. I wish I knew how to post YouTube videos where it shows a picture of it here. CLICK HERE TO GO TO washerfan's LINK |
Post# 348312 , Reply# 40   5/12/2009 at 10:29 (5,434 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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they are so large i cans seem to get it all in the pic. but hears a try anyway Dryer |
Post# 348313 , Reply# 41   5/12/2009 at 10:29 (5,434 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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a closer one |
Post# 348314 , Reply# 42   5/12/2009 at 10:30 (5,434 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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Has 100 sheets in it a is about 1/2 full |
Post# 348319 , Reply# 43   5/12/2009 at 10:47 (5,434 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()   |   | |
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Hey Pulsator, Could you take some pictures of the clean 09 and the milnor plant and post them? Please with sugar on top? |
Post# 348321 , Reply# 44   5/12/2009 at 11:00 (5,434 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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but in years past they do not allow cameras on the convention floor. I plan to attend to as in years past. |
Post# 348325 , Reply# 45   5/12/2009 at 11:15 (5,434 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 348327 , Reply# 46   5/12/2009 at 11:20 (5,434 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 348519 , Reply# 47   5/12/2009 at 22:44 (5,433 days old) by norfolksouthern ()   |   | |
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I wonder, has anybody ever climbed into one of these things? But don't turn it on! NorfolkSouthern |
Post# 348530 , Reply# 48   5/12/2009 at 23:36 (5,433 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Is the professional launderers, dry cleaners, etc and so forth mega CONVENTION! Lots of fun (so I've been told), and more important to those in the business a chance to see new products and equipment, while also attending classes/training in whatever is new and interesting. For a laundry appliance buff, it can be a bit like a child let loose in a candy shop! *LOL* So many machines, so many choices, and one has so little space at home. Usually all the domestic and international laundry equipment/suppliers are there, and yes chemcial suppliers as well (nice time to pick up samples and such of detergents and other professional laundry chemicals). |
Post# 348560 , Reply# 49   5/13/2009 at 02:24 (5,433 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 348561 , Reply# 50   5/13/2009 at 02:45 (5,433 days old) by washerfan ()   |   | |
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Post# 348564 , Reply# 51   5/13/2009 at 03:52 (5,433 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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has the 230 or the 35 and now has a 110 |
Post# 349270 , Reply# 54   5/15/2009 at 21:08 (5,430 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 349342 , Reply# 57   5/16/2009 at 08:51 (5,430 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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Will start from there and see how it works. Much appreciate your taking time to read and respond... and so fast too. |
Post# 349350 , Reply# 59   5/16/2009 at 09:46 (5,430 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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I think it may also have something to do with the fact that our clothes are dropped what like 8-10 inches in a home machine versus 3 or 4 feet in a commercial washer of such large size? The wash action seems much more aggressive in those large machines I bet the load just doesn't need as much time being picked up and dropped because they are being dropped such a large distance?
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Post# 349353 , Reply# 60   5/16/2009 at 10:04 (5,430 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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Read some of the prev post on this subjuct there a number of test that have been done here and by the lab in the past. The bear this out. |
Post# 349433 , Reply# 62   5/16/2009 at 23:30 (5,429 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Look at how the machines are loaded in photos above. If loaded at or even barely below rated capacity, there won't be much lifting and falling the full drum, but rather more against other laundry. Or, perhaps against the side of the tub. Could be wrong, but that is what one sees when the large SQ front loaders at local laundromat are fully loaded. L. |
Post# 349588 , Reply# 64   5/17/2009 at 18:41 (5,429 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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I meant to say "9% to 18% available CHLORINE content," not bleach. |
Post# 349710 , Reply# 66   5/18/2009 at 06:18 (5,428 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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Wow, sudsman, your post is time stamped 4:06 AM. You're an early riser. Is that a requirement of the job or insomnia? |
Post# 349740 , Reply# 68   5/18/2009 at 09:13 (5,428 days old) by suburbanmd (Maryland, USA)   |   | |
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Thanks, sudsman (and LaundryNut!). Another question...for what kinds of loads do you use phosphates, and when do you avoid them? What do you think of the practice of adding a couple of tablespoons of STPP as a booster in domestic laundry? |
Post# 349789 , Reply# 69   5/18/2009 at 12:39 (5,428 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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& STPP check the searchlator We have beat that to death. If you dont come up with anything let me know I LL explain again. |
Post# 350901 , Reply# 71   5/23/2009 at 00:29 (5,423 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Sudsman thanks for the pic's and taking so much time to answer all our questions. alr2903 |
Post# 351016 , Reply# 74   5/23/2009 at 15:22 (5,423 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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just happen to have a video of it. Here at the old plant the machines are just about the same. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sudsman's LINK |
Post# 351276 , Reply# 75   5/24/2009 at 15:01 (5,422 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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Hard to believe that a machine can do all that. Must be a b##ch if it ever jams. I can see where static could cause problems. Is there a machine that can do the same thing with fitted sheets? |
Post# 351337 , Reply# 77   5/24/2009 at 19:01 (5,422 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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Would love to see a fitted sheet run through that machine. I've been hand folding mine for years. |
Post# 351428 , Reply# 78   5/25/2009 at 04:27 (5,421 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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will make some still shots of it I m not so good at the video as you can see. |
Post# 351604 , Reply# 81   5/25/2009 at 19:52 (5,421 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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You can name it "Laundry Treasures." Talk about airing dirty laundry. Some of that sounds pretty gross! |
Post# 351622 , Reply# 82   5/25/2009 at 20:19 (5,420 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Other OR equipment is not only counted and accounted for in terms of laundry, but for a more important reason, to make sure nothing has been left inside a patient. Scrub and circulating nurses are held accountable for all sponges, swabs, sharps and all other surgical instruments, and such. Swabs and often other items as well are counted out on a board in the OR, once the operation is over, but before the patient is closed up, a count must be taken of unused, used and discarded items, if the count does not total the doctor must be informed and a "hunt" is commenced. If after the hunt the missing item still cannot be accounted for, a patient is often X-rayed in an other attempt to locate the missing item. Should this fail to produce results, the head nurse (and often supervisor and DON) are informed at once, if they have not been already. |
Post# 351705 , Reply# 83   5/26/2009 at 00:42 (5,420 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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After performing surgery, the surgeon is missing his cell phone. No problem. Just call the cell phone and see if it rings inside the patient. Sorry, I couldn't resist. |
Post# 352232 , Reply# 90   5/27/2009 at 11:32 (5,419 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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can be used with or with out cups the the last cup is being used for liquid softner the rest dry. They flush in when programmer calls |
Post# 352234 , Reply# 91   5/27/2009 at 11:33 (5,419 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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uses cups and flush system. |
Post# 352235 , Reply# 92   5/27/2009 at 11:35 (5,419 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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a good hosing down has to be done anyway |
Post# 352375 , Reply# 93   5/27/2009 at 18:47 (5,419 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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and explanations. Those cups in the photos are looking a little nasty. |
Post# 352376 , Reply# 94   5/27/2009 at 18:47 (5,419 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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A flush tray type for liquid or powders |
Post# 352377 , Reply# 95   5/27/2009 at 18:49 (5,419 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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this style of flush tray is widely used. |
Post# 352442 , Reply# 97   5/27/2009 at 21:33 (5,418 days old) by suburbanmd (Maryland, USA)   |   | |
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I saw a setup like that in the laundry facilities of the new county jail, on a tour before it opened. This way the inmates can operate the machines, but don't have access to the chemicals, which are in a separate locked room. |
Post# 352645 , Reply# 98   5/28/2009 at 09:30 (5,418 days old) by sudsman ()   |   | |
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they are in a seperate LOCKED room behind the washers. |
Post# 352734 , Reply# 99   5/28/2009 at 14:46 (5,418 days old) by laundrynut ()   |   | |
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at a hospital? |
Post# 354479 , Reply# 100   6/3/2009 at 19:41 (5,412 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()   |   | |
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Sometimes, language can be used figuratively! |