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Post# 350086 5/19/2009 at 07:30 (5,453 days old) by gadgetgary  (Bristol,CT) |
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Post# 350087 , Reply# 1 5/19/2009 at 07:32 (5,453 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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No interior pics | ||
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Post# 350094 , Reply# 2 5/19/2009 at 08:26 (5,453 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass) |
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Looks like a 1970's model, judging by the knobs; may also have the tall centerpost with the 18lb tub. | ||
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Post# 350103 , Reply# 3 5/19/2009 at 09:03 (5,453 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Interior shot | ||
| Post# 350107 , Reply# 4 5/19/2009 at 09:17 (5,453 days old) by davek () | ||
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Is that rust that is actually on the tub, or is that some kind of grime buildup with rusty spots in it? It looks to me like that's some dried detergent or something. | ||
| Post# 350116 , Reply# 5 5/19/2009 at 10:02 (5,453 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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I see myself cleaning and tweaking a Whirpool with a wig-wag in my immediate future! *LOL* | ||
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Post# 350149 , Reply# 6 5/19/2009 at 13:21 (5,453 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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To me that looks like very common build-up from debris that settled in the tub. I would not worry about it. It may need a scrubbing to get off, but unless the porcelain finish is compromised, the rust should not be permanent. That looks very much like a tall centerpost (there were three centerpost heights in 18lb. machines over the years). That is the second generation agitator, which was "shrunken" to lessen wear on the gearcase. I'd grab it! | ||
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Post# 350150 , Reply# 7 5/19/2009 at 13:27 (5,453 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Gordon | ||
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Post# 350178 , Reply# 8 5/19/2009 at 16:35 (5,452 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Post# 350194 , Reply# 9 5/19/2009 at 18:50 (5,452 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Centerpost | ||
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Post# 350215 , Reply# 10 5/19/2009 at 20:54 (5,452 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 350294 , Reply# 11 5/20/2009 at 07:27 (5,452 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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The Gadget is looking at this one today....and it's probably getting moved on Saturday. | ||
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Post# 350320 , Reply# 12 5/20/2009 at 08:59 (5,452 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Control panel | ||
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Post# 350322 , Reply# 13 5/20/2009 at 09:00 (5,452 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Panel | ||
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Post# 350323 , Reply# 14 5/20/2009 at 09:02 (5,452 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Panel | ||
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Post# 350324 , Reply# 15 5/20/2009 at 09:03 (5,452 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Interior Shot | ||
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Post# 350326 , Reply# 16 5/20/2009 at 09:08 (5,452 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Looks like it has seen better days | ||
| Post# 350328 , Reply# 17 5/20/2009 at 09:17 (5,452 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Also looks like there is dirt or residue on the agitator. Possibly water was left in the tub for a while? | ||
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Post# 350331 , Reply# 18 5/20/2009 at 10:12 (5,452 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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The dirt/residue and the moderate wear on the control panel lead me to believe the machine has been outside. HOWEVER, I would NOT pass this machine up if you want something a bit different. The tall centerpost machines are RARE, so you'd have something different to talk about. The orange stains in the tub are very unlikely to be rust spots. They and the agitator will come clean. If you get a machine like this that needs a little TLC, you'll have the satisfaction of having cleaned it up yourself. | ||
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Post# 350378 , Reply# 19 5/20/2009 at 15:01 (5,451 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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The moderate wear on the control panel | ||
| Post# 350406 , Reply# 20 5/20/2009 at 17:56 (5,451 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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It's a wig-wag and that is fun enough for me! | ||
| Post# 350460 , Reply# 22 5/20/2009 at 23:05 (5,451 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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last cycle... Funny, hot/warm on perm press?! | ||
| Post# 350461 , Reply# 23 5/20/2009 at 23:14 (5,451 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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Is the tub ring metal? I don't believe I have ever seen a metal tub ring that looks quite like this. On first glance I thought it was the plastic, but it has a shine. Nice washer which just needs some TLC. Have a good one, James | ||
| Post# 350521 , Reply# 24 5/21/2009 at 06:34 (5,451 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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It is my belief that all rinses (as mandated by the timer) on the PP cycle are cold. We shall see. The gadget has never seen the guts of a WhirlMore machine. Can't wait to see his shock.... he is used to Maytags! | ||
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Post# 350541 , Reply# 26 5/21/2009 at 08:03 (5,451 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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It is my belief that all rinses (as mandated by the timer) o
Toggles, nope, not on Whirlys and Kenmores of this vintage. You could get a warm rinse no PP cycle, could do so on our Kenmore 800, imagine the cool down with agitation on the 800 with warm rinse lol. This whirly has the stepped down to gentle agitation on PP cycle at 4 or 6 minutes and gentel agitation for rinse.
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| Post# 350555 , Reply# 27 5/21/2009 at 08:58 (5,451 days old) by davek () | ||
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Knob Does this cycle knob turn counter-clockwise? That's the funniest part of this machine to me. I'm so used to them turning right hand only... | ||
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Post# 350575 , Reply# 28 5/21/2009 at 10:32 (5,451 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Lid | ||
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Post# 350586 , Reply# 29 5/21/2009 at 11:05 (5,451 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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The metal tub rings gave way to the injection molded plastic ones during 1973, gradually. Current models that were introduced with metal rings were updated with slight model number revisions to accomodate the part number change (the plastic rings had a different part number than the metal). Oddly, my early Feb. 1973 build Lady K has a plastic ring. My mid-Feb built Kenmore 60 (it's only two weeks newer) got a metal one. They seem to have been all plastic by that summer. Gordon | ||
| Post# 350621 , Reply# 30 5/21/2009 at 13:39 (5,451 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Thanks for that Bob. So PP can be warm rinse. What a waste of water and energy. Especially if the clothes are going in the dryer. | ||
| Post# 350736 , Reply# 34 5/22/2009 at 05:17 (5,450 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Speaking of timers, my aunt had the narrow (24" / 60cm) version of this machine. She went through a few timers. Funny thing is she was very careful to turn the dial slowly and properly. Does the "super wash" dump its water and refill for the normal cycle? | ||
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Post# 350740 , Reply# 35 5/22/2009 at 05:26 (5,450 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Whirlpool! | ||
| Post# 350742 , Reply# 36 5/22/2009 at 05:44 (5,450 days old) by davek () | ||
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Ok, I thought that the cycles were on the panel, not a rotating ring. That changes it a bit. My Whirlpool was bought in early 03, so it was probably built in late 2002. | ||
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Post# 350781 , Reply# 38 5/22/2009 at 11:19 (5,450 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Curious | ||
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Post# 350782 , Reply# 39 5/22/2009 at 11:33 (5,450 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Slower.
If I am remembering correctly, Maytags spin at 618 RPM and regular capacity WP/KM belt drives spin at 525. Of course, the diameter of the tub makes a difference in G-forces and length of the spin cycle will also affect extraction. Both numbers above are on regular speed settings, not slow. Confused? Dave | ||
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Post# 350790 , Reply# 40 5/22/2009 at 12:03 (5,450 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Confused? | ||
| Post# 351017 , Reply# 41 5/23/2009 at 15:25 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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She's in, and works well..... 
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| Post# 351018 , Reply# 42 5/23/2009 at 15:26 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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| Post# 351020 , Reply# 43 5/23/2009 at 15:28 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Console 
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| Post# 351021 , Reply# 44 5/23/2009 at 15:29 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Timer 
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| Post# 351023 , Reply# 45 5/23/2009 at 15:30 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Money shot. She was still dirty at this point, but holds water! *YAY* 
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| Post# 351025 , Reply# 46 5/23/2009 at 15:33 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Agitator out for cleaning. The Gadget thinks the finish was worn off. I say this is some type of scuzzy coating. I will try to abrade it off. 
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| Post# 351026 , Reply# 47 5/23/2009 at 15:37 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Nekked drive post. Unlike a low-drive Maytag, this brand drives that agitator the top, just like a GE. Notice those brown spots.... Can't tell if this is damage from (under)a missing glaze, or damage under some kind of crud/coating. 
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| Post# 351027 , Reply# 48 5/23/2009 at 15:38 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Under the hood. 
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| Post# 351028 , Reply# 49 5/23/2009 at 15:40 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Another view 
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| Post# 351034 , Reply# 52 5/23/2009 at 15:50 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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After a full fill and hot wash with bleach (to clean deodorize and disinfect),she is ready to wash her maiden load at this address..... WHAT FUN and familiar sounds! 
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| Post# 351036 , Reply# 53 5/23/2009 at 15:52 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Spin speed is pitiful. Will post some more (and add links)after adding videos of her to YouTube. TTFN! | ||
| Post# 351096 , Reply# 54 5/23/2009 at 21:20 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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We have videos! CLICK HERE TO GO TO toggleswitch2's LINK | ||
| Post# 351100 , Reply# 55 5/23/2009 at 21:30 (5,448 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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Spin speed; I know that standard capacity BD Whirlpools/Kenmores spin at 525 rpms, but I believe I read somewhere that large capacity models are even slower at 505 rpms. Is this accurate? She looks awesome all cleaned up and washing. Congrats on getting her. Have a good one, James | ||
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Post# 351101 , Reply# 56 5/23/2009 at 21:35 (5,448 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Who washed a boa in there?
When we got Maggie(her proper name) home, we kept finding feathers in the washbasket. At first, we were grossed-out as they kept pouring out of the Magic-clean filter(we just assumed that a bird or animal met its maker). We later had an AHA moment when we realized it was probably the remnants of a down comforter or pillow. 
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Post# 351103 , Reply# 57 5/23/2009 at 21:42 (5,448 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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James
As an experiment, we took the finished load out of Maggie (this Whirpool)and stuck it in The Mutt (one of my Maytags) and ended up with 2-1/2 cups of additional water removed. (575ml @230ml per cup). The tub diameter of the Whirlpool is only a bit bigger than that of the Maytag. Even worse, what is the spin speed on Gentle cycle? 
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| Post# 351104 , Reply# 58 5/23/2009 at 21:50 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Strangely the rust-color is UNDER a coating of what I believe is lime scale The Gadget says the next town over, where she lived, has very hard water. Chipped it out with a utility knife. 
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| Post# 351106 , Reply# 59 5/23/2009 at 21:53 (5,448 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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Gary: Not exactly sure about the speed on Gentle, but I believe somewhere between 450 and 490 rpms. Have a good one, James | ||
| Post# 351107 , Reply# 60 5/23/2009 at 21:53 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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money shot washbasket Her only defect appears to be the rust-colored stains and the limescale buildup. 
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| Post# 351108 , Reply# 61 5/23/2009 at 21:58 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Wiring diagram and timer-circuit sequences. The one gear-shifting solenoid (that rides the wig-wag [SLUT!])is responsible for "agitate" or "pump out", and the other "spin" or "don't spin". No suds-saver here! 
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| Post# 351109 , Reply# 62 5/23/2009 at 22:01 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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*LOL* an an agitator with genital herpres....... 
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| Post# 351142 , Reply# 63 5/24/2009 at 00:23 (5,448 days old) by lebron (Minnesota) | ||
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| Post# 351145 , Reply# 64 5/24/2009 at 00:39 (5,448 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Gadget & Togs nice pics and vids Thank you both. Maggie may not be the fastest on the Spin, but i am willing to bet, she washed every Stich CLEAN. | ||
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Post# 351146 , Reply# 65 5/24/2009 at 00:59 (5,448 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Yeah, those old Whirly's may have a lame spin, but they sure do wash well. Congratulations on your find! Oh, and let me know when its the next brit millah and I'll bring some chopped liver or something. | ||
| Post# 351153 , Reply# 66 5/24/2009 at 02:10 (5,448 days old) by strongenough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 351159 , Reply# 67 5/24/2009 at 03:02 (5,448 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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NICE!!! This tall centerpost Whirlpool will be able to fit the extra tall (18 1/8") SUPER Roto-Swirl agitator in it. | ||
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Post# 351160 , Reply# 68 5/24/2009 at 03:06 (5,448 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Whirlpool! | ||
| Post# 351176 , Reply# 69 5/24/2009 at 07:15 (5,448 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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She's 29 inches wide and looks huge. Funny thing is she is only 25.5"deep. So the outer cabinet its "to impress"; it serves no practical purpose. 29" @ 2.54cm per inch = 73.66cm 25.5" is therefore 64.77cm | ||
| Post# 351181 , Reply# 70 5/24/2009 at 08:16 (5,448 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
One thing I did notice in the video...when the washer goes into spin the tub on every Whirlpool I have had ramps up to the blistering 515 rpms rather fast. On this washer its not so. I cant help but wonder if something is going on with the basket drive clutch. It could be worn and its not an easy fix since the washer would have to be torn down to get to it. My 3 cents | ||
| Post# 351184 , Reply# 71 5/24/2009 at 08:20 (5,448 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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I noticed that the drain hose comes out at the top of the machine in the back and not the bottom. My 1976 Whirlpool LDA5800 has the drain coming out the bottom of the machine. Why is this? What year did the drain start coming out of the bottom? | ||
| Post# 351192 , Reply# 72 5/24/2009 at 08:59 (5,448 days old) by davek () | ||
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Sound To me, the sound I remember best from our belt-drive Kenmores was the spring-click-BANG that they made when the went from filling to agitation. You need to make a video that includes that transition. | ||
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Post# 351224 , Reply# 73 5/24/2009 at 11:38 (5,448 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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DRAIN HOSE...top or bottom
most of the ones that I remember coming out of the bottom had the waterfall filter of one sort or another.... only the ones with the self-clean filters came out the top...that is the "real" water travel thru hoses and then reverse to clean style of filters not the circle comb filter under the tub which does nothing and yet they call it a filter...these ones had the drain hose coming out the bottom | ||
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Post# 351248 , Reply# 74 5/24/2009 at 13:04 (5,448 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 351293 , Reply# 75 5/24/2009 at 16:03 (5,447 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Since we know the gadget is attracted to things shiny and illuminated.... I couln't help my little-ole-self and felt the need to add a light behind the translucent plastic panel underneath the console. 
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| Post# 351294 , Reply# 76 5/24/2009 at 16:04 (5,447 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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| Post# 351295 , Reply# 77 5/24/2009 at 16:06 (5,447 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Ain't she purdy? 
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| Post# 351298 , Reply# 78 5/24/2009 at 16:09 (5,447 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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So I tapped into the timer leads and she is well illuminated except during wash and rinse water fills (i.e. when the timer is stationery and unpowered). 
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| Post# 351300 , Reply# 79 5/24/2009 at 16:14 (5,447 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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I may have to add a few pilot lights. :-) hot fill cold fill agitate spin ..and light her up like a Christmas tree. | ||
| Post# 351302 , Reply# 80 5/24/2009 at 16:16 (5,447 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Stationary. I ment stationary. LOL | ||
| Post# 351316 , Reply# 81 5/24/2009 at 17:03 (5,447 days old) by tbolt25 (Kentucky) | ||
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worn spin clutch From what I've seen from the spin video on Youtube, it appears the spin clutch is very worn-it wasn't gaining speed as it should have. | ||
| Post# 351320 , Reply# 82 5/24/2009 at 17:28 (5,447 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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More videos. If you will notice, these videos include the "after-market" hot-rodded VROOM VROOM console light! Enjoy | ||
| Post# 351324 , Reply# 84 5/24/2009 at 17:35 (5,447 days old) by toggleswitch2 () | ||
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Glenn: Although I do speak some English, it is not literally my first language, "So what you talkin' bout Willis?" ~Your spin is sluggish for sure, a problem of some ilk is likely happening. :-) | ||
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Post# 351325 , Reply# 85 5/24/2009 at 17:44 (5,447 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Whirlpool Deluxe | ||
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Post# 351332 , Reply# 86 5/24/2009 at 18:11 (5,447 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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| Post# 351377 , Reply# 87 5/24/2009 at 23:08 (5,447 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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sluggish? ya I noticed the sluggish spin too, I also noted that in one of the videos of the agitation cycle the sound seemed very labored, like either a tired motor or a slipping belt? Was the agitation video taken with a full load of clothes? | ||
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Post# 351398 , Reply# 89 5/25/2009 at 00:47 (5,447 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Ilk. Type. Sort. Kind. Problem of some kind. Assuming no suds-lock :-) spin should accelerate much better than what happens in Video #3. It should have been up to full speed before the spray rinse hit. Maybe the clutch is slipping too much under a (clothes) load? Or something is related to the brake/clutch/spin tube is binding? Video #4 agitation does sound labored, but could be an audio artifact. | ||
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Post# 351452 , Reply# 90 5/25/2009 at 08:24 (5,447 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Meant has an *A*in it,usually. | ||
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Post# 351455 , Reply# 91 5/25/2009 at 08:28 (5,447 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Post# 351491 , Reply# 92 5/25/2009 at 10:49 (5,447 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Belt Change | ||
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Post# 351572 , Reply# 93 5/25/2009 at 17:24 (5,446 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 351590 , Reply# 94 5/25/2009 at 18:20 (5,446 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Gary - I have never noticed the smell of mechanical parts or oil coming from a Whirlpool/Kenmore belt-drive washer unless something was not working properly. Changing the belt may speed the machine up a little bit because a new belt won't bottom-out in the pulleys like a worn belt can, which slows them down. However, this won't affect the spin speed or the machine's acceleration time very much. If this were my machine, I would check the pump to be sure it's not dragging down the belt. Other than that, I'd consider the motor being a weak link, especially if you already smell something like hot electrical parts. Motors are easy to change. Gordon | ||
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