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Well, I got a Bendix machine today...
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Post# 351575   5/25/2009 at 17:38 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

It was located roughly 60 miles from where I live, and when I got there it was in what I call relatively good shape for it's age. Price was only $35, the guy I bought it from did not know whether or not it worked. It is definitely smaller than I thought, in fact so small that I put it up-right in my crippled SUV. The frame of my SUV is rusting out and I have GOD to thank for me getting back home with the SUV in one piece. The guy owns a scrap business and told me that there is a place that pays him up to $100 per machine for vintage machines like this Bendix, but he did not feel driving it down there and decided to post it on Craig's list. I'm sure glad he posted it there. The machine does look very cute, and it is what I call my first TRUE vintage machine. All the knobs are there, the soap lid is broken, there is rust on the lower side of the rear seal clamp. The drum does turn(only one way). Should it only turn one way? The cord needs to be replaced(an easy fix). Any info on this machine would be greatly appreciated. It is a Model S with a serial of
5310 S 528. It also looks like B18 is under the serial number. Pictures are below.





Post# 351576 , Reply# 1   5/25/2009 at 17:39 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

The logo

Post# 351578 , Reply# 2   5/25/2009 at 17:40 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

The front plate

Post# 351579 , Reply# 3   5/25/2009 at 17:41 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

the under-side

Post# 351580 , Reply# 4   5/25/2009 at 17:41 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

the knobs

Post# 351581 , Reply# 5   5/25/2009 at 17:43 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

The drum even came with clothes

Post# 351582 , Reply# 6   5/25/2009 at 17:43 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

The back plate

Post# 351583 , Reply# 7   5/25/2009 at 17:44 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

The hatch. What is this used for?

Post# 351584 , Reply# 8   5/25/2009 at 17:45 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

the Bendix

Post# 351586 , Reply# 9   5/25/2009 at 17:50 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

The guy also noted that if I did not come to get it, someone from Cincinnati would. Volvoguy87, would that be you by any chance? If it is, good looking out, a machine like this can't be crushed.

Post# 351597 , Reply# 10   5/25/2009 at 19:13 (5,442 days old) by saltysam ()        
The hatch. What is this used for?

Hey SupremeWhirlpol, that would be the lint trap. open that up and it will probably be built up with lint, soap scum and god know's what else.......nice machine!
mark


Post# 351628 , Reply# 11   5/25/2009 at 20:57 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Thanks Saltysam for the info. I am mostly a Whirlpool/Kenmore person(that's mostly what's in my area), and I know nothing about these older machines.

Post# 351630 , Reply# 12   5/25/2009 at 21:04 (5,442 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Cute little bugger! I'm sure the Bendix experts will help you get it running in tip top shape in no time.

Post# 351639 , Reply# 13   5/25/2009 at 21:59 (5,442 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
Not me.

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I posted here to see if anyone else was interested before making a move. I didn't contact him because I was sure you wanted it. As I posted before, I don't want one of these yet and would only have gotten it if it were in danger of being crushed.

I'm glad you got it and I hope you have fun with it. I know little of these machines, but what little I know follows:

This model must be bolted down.
I think it tumbles only one way.
It has a pretty sorry extraction due to a small drum and low spin RPMs.
It isn't the most effective washer.

These Bendix Bolt Down front loaders were the first automatic washers in the US. They hit the market in 1938 and were produced into the 1950s, with a break during WWII, although some were produced for military use at that time. There were automatic versions and semi-automatic versions (user had to switch from wash to spin). Most of the Bendix washers produced of this design were the diving bell shape like yours, but there was also a full cabinet with a neat art deco design theme available on more expensive models. Since these Bendix washers were in production so long, they aren't as rare as you might think.

Please post lots of pics and eventually videos.
Dave

I hope your washer-mobile holds out for awhile more. Getting a new car is a pain so I hope you don't have to do it soon.


Post# 351663 , Reply# 14   5/25/2009 at 22:57 (5,442 days old) by soberleaf ()        
actually that was me who called and

told him if he didn't sell to you i would take it. for that price i thought it would be worth the drive to troy ohio. but i'm glad you bought it and didn't want to interfere cause i knew you wanted it.

i have plenty to keep me busy with my dishwashers (26) and the frigidaire rollermatic i just got and the frigidaire gallery front loader i just modified to do what i want it to. i have little room left for more appliances and i have 5 more dishwashers to buy when i get some more money saved.

that bendix looks wonderful, what a classic peice of american applaince history. hope it runs for you and if you need parts i hope you find them!

pete


Post# 351752 , Reply# 15   5/26/2009 at 05:02 (5,442 days old) by hilovane (Columbus OH)        

These particular Bendix washers (with whatever manufacturing updates occured) were mainstays in laundrettes for decades; many were still in service well into the '70s.

Post# 351779 , Reply# 16   5/26/2009 at 06:59 (5,442 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
You got yourself a great machine.

Congratulations on your find. I used one of these machines as a kid as well as the square model.

It MUST be bolted to the floor as there is no suspension system in the machine. Though the extraction speed is slow (300 rmp I think), it will walk all over the place if not bolted down.

The tub turns in ONE direction. From the moment the machine is turned on, the motor runs, the tub turns constantly throughout the entire cycle.

The "lint trap" beneath the main door does catch lint, but the main thing is that it catches foreign debris such as coins, nails, small items that would damage the pump if they got into it.

These machines were extremely popular because housewives were going from washboards and/or wringer washers to automatic for the very first time. Put the clothes in and walk away. When you return, they have been washed, rinsed, and damp dried and are ready to be hung on the line to dry.

Good luck. Have fun. The mechanism is simple -- even the water level control is much like a commode tank with a float that tells the water when to shut off.

I love these machines.

Jerry Gay


Post# 351797 , Reply# 17   5/26/2009 at 07:24 (5,442 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

OH!! It was Soberleaf who called, good looking out. Is it possible to find the seal to the outer drum and the seal for the main bearing? Will I have to have them custom made?

Post# 351801 , Reply# 18   5/26/2009 at 07:30 (5,442 days old) by soberleaf ()        
i'm not sure

where you would get those parts since i don't have a lot of experience with old washers but i'll bet someone here can help you.

if you do have to have them custom made please let me know who does this for you. i am looking for a seal for my g.e. mobile maid and if it is possible to have them made this is what i will do also!

good luck with it and if it has to be bolted to the floor, so be it! it will be worth it to watch it run!


Post# 351804 , Reply# 19   5/26/2009 at 07:40 (5,442 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Good save!

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That looks like a pretty old model alright! I don't have any specific information on Bendix machines like service manuals, but I have a set of home appliance repair books that feature a Bendix machines as illustrations - there is a good section on how the high-speed spin clutches engage in a Bendix. Let me know if this would help and I will be happy to copy the pages and send them to you.

Post# 352181 , Reply# 20   5/27/2009 at 09:32 (5,440 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        
Should I improve this machine?

I had an interesting thought: is it possible to improve this machine to the point where parts would be more available for it?

The old controls? no, problem: use a generic PLC with small LCD screen to control cycle fucntions.

The main bearing, I'm sure can be found at a motor shop or bearing shop.

The low extraction speed? Well, fit the machine with a 3 phase inverter-duty TEFC motor and VFD and also use a bigger pully on the motor shaft.

I remember seeing a video of a Bendix Eudora machine somewhere in the UK (mark1973? maybe?). The drum rotation would instantly reverse and it would attempt to redistribute the clothes to go into spin. I think a 1HP motor should do the trick. What you do guys and gals think?


Post# 352184 , Reply# 21   5/27/2009 at 09:36 (5,440 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Wonderful idea..
pre-war Gorenje-Bendix..... 2000rpm spin...

don't forget to evacuate your neighbourhood before the first test.


Post# 352218 , Reply# 22   5/27/2009 at 10:36 (5,440 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
I don't know.

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Prewar Bendix machines are much less common than postwar models, I would preserve this one. Also, I don't know if the rest of the washer (frame, drum shaft, etc.) could handle higher speeds and vibration. These were the first automatic washers ever and the engineers were breaking new ground with them. It might be better to let this one remain as is.

Dave


Post# 352221 , Reply# 23   5/27/2009 at 10:45 (5,440 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

So, this is a pre-war model?

Post# 352274 , Reply# 24   5/27/2009 at 13:23 (5,440 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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No this is a post 1946 model, you can tell by the nameplate in the front of the machine.

Post# 352630 , Reply# 25   5/28/2009 at 08:41 (5,440 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        
South Bend...

Was the Bendix home appliances division associated with Studebaker somehow?


Post# 355828 , Reply# 26   6/9/2009 at 15:27 (5,427 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

The manual came today!! Thanks Turquoisedude.

Post# 355834 , Reply# 27   6/9/2009 at 16:02 (5,427 days old) by davek ()        
Studebaker

Bendix wasn't involved with Studebaker, but I think that Franklin was. At one point or another, every major US automaker was building appliances (GM Frigidaire, Ford Philco, Chrysler Airtemp, Nash/AMC Kelvinator, and Studebaker Franklin).

Post# 355922 , Reply# 28   6/9/2009 at 23:27 (5,427 days old) by soberleaf ()        
does it really spin at 2000 rpm?

that is incredible if it does! and i'll bet when the bearings start to wear out it sounds like jet taking off. but still it's a great washer and i'm glad you got it and not me! i don't know much about old bendix machines. i had an aunt that had one but i never really got to see it in action.

enjoy it!


Post# 356034 , Reply# 29   6/10/2009 at 11:55 (5,426 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

It doesn't have a 2000 rpm spin yet. I'm still deciding whether or not implement the VFD system and PLC or just leave it like it is. By looking at the basic controls of the machine, it looks like I may be able to use a small PLC with an LCD screen and I may be able to have multiple programs on it. I was thinking one program can have the machine behave the traditional way and another can have the ramp up to the 2000 rpm spin.


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