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Post# 354469   6/3/2009 at 18:59 (5,432 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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My reason for asking, I was reading on a forum people complaining they don't use enough water. But apparently LG has a "perma press" cycle which uses LOTS more water and the users were saying that some chose that option along with "stain treat" and or heavy soil and it works fine.




Post# 354515 , Reply# 1   6/3/2009 at 21:35 (5,432 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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That's very true. Todd in new Orleans uses the PP cycle for that reason for just about everything but whites & towels, then he uses either Whites or Sanitary cycles. His machine is like the 1st or 2nd generation. Many of the more recent models in the last couple of years have an option button for added water, adds a higher water level for wash & rinses than the default fill levgel. I'd check Epinions.com for reviews

Post# 354520 , Reply# 2   6/3/2009 at 22:03 (5,432 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
LG Washer Report

I have a WM2032HS FL which is probably 4-5 years old now and has the controls on top. Bought it used from Craigslist and had a problem with error codes for the drum not turning. Has cropped up again this past week, but found it to only be the wiring connector getting loose in the mating socket. The control panel screws are out and even my wife knows what to do if "LE" shows up on the display.

It does seem to use too little water but we also use the PP and delicate cycles to add more water. The clothes still com clean in the normal mode and especially if we use the Mexican Ariel detergent. Truly, truly white whites without Chlorine Bleach and bright colors. I have to thank Andrew in Orlando for telling me about it and we use a bit more than a third of a cup with great results.
Water extraction is excellent even on medium speed.

Our machine did have a floor dancing problem but it is on Ceramic tile and the loads are not perfectly balanced all the time. I leveled and releveled it per the install notes, but to no avail. The floor was just too slippery.

Easy Fix!!!
I took 4x4 inch pieces of a regular kitchen rug with rubber backing and put it only under the front feet and the washer hasn't moved out of place since and this was like 4 months ago.

All in all, it is quiet and my water bill dropped 3000 gals in the first month of use so we are satisfied with the water consumption.

Also. no smells or mold to speak of especially in light of my wife not using Chlorine bleach. I sneak a load of rags in now and then and do use the bleach but we have gone weeks and weeks without bleach and still no smell.

I would tell you not to use the ECOS brand of soap out there at Sams and Costco. Smells nice, but stinks as a detergent. Whites are dingy and colors are dull. Most HE powders do a better job but the Ariel is still the best!

Hope this helps
Steve


Post# 354554 , Reply# 3   6/4/2009 at 00:47 (5,432 days old) by toploader1984 ()        

i have an LG front loader, i am trying to sell it on craigslist, nothing wrong with it, i am just not much of a front loader person, mine os only 2 years old, i havent had any trouble with mine, except mine did the dancing thing a bit, but my basement floor has a big slope for the floor drain by the washer, my machine also uses alot of water on the comforter cycle.

Post# 354560 , Reply# 4   6/4/2009 at 01:29 (5,432 days old) by vintagesearch ()        

i think i would opt into an LG or frigidaire if we actually get a frontloader.....time will tell i think these LG ones look cool

Post# 354647 , Reply# 5   6/4/2009 at 13:54 (5,432 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I think

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those LG's look cool too. I've been reading that the perma press and bulky or comforter cycles use more water. It never occurred to me that people could actually use these cycles for every load, but hey, why not. I know when I bought my duet 9300 a little over 4 years ago, it was one model below the TOL model, the only difference being my model didn't have as many cycles. My model lacks "bulky". It does have delicate and soak but those cycles don't agitate enough to use for regular laundry. So I'm thinking key here when buying a front load washer is to make sure the machine you buy has one of those cycles so if u need more water, it's there. I think the some of the current LG's have the water plus button, but I think all have perma press cycle. The Duet's or Hetties don't have perma press but some do have bulky. I've also read to make sure when buying a machine to make sure it's service locally. I wonder if the back ordered parts are still a problem with LG so when you need service it doesn't take weeks to get a part, meaning weeks without being able to use your machine.

Post# 356599 , Reply# 6   6/12/2009 at 18:07 (5,423 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
toploader1984

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Does the "comforter cycle" allow u to use any modifiers like stain or can u adjust spin and soil level or is it set in stone

Post# 356617 , Reply# 7   6/12/2009 at 19:28 (5,423 days old) by toploader1984 ()        

yes u can increase the wash time by soil level and add stain cycle pre was extra rinse etc... however on my LG, the only thing that i cannot do on the comforter cycle is adjust spin, the highest it will allow is medium, which i dont understand b cuz shouldnt a bulky item be able to spin on a high speed so it spends less time in the dryer? what i usally do is use the comforter cycle the run the "rinse and spin" cycle with fabric softener. the LG rinses twice on a regular cycle, the first rinse uses the recirculation pump to circulate the water, although the second rinse does NOT use the recirc pump, so if u have a bulky item and use fabric softener, it will not absorb into the comforter before the rinse cycle is over. that is why i use the rinse/spin cycle after the comforter cycle has completed, PLUS it not only uses the recirculation pump, it uses a generous amount of water which i GREAT for using fabric softener.

Post# 356652 , Reply# 8   6/12/2009 at 22:42 (5,423 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Thanks

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I suspect that if I had this washer that is the cycle I would use for EVERYTHING! I agree about the spin, although I was thinking it would only allow "low", glad it at least allows "med". Pardon my ignorance, but what does the recirculation pump do exactly? I'm thinking all front loaders, fill for wash, drain, then spin, then fill with rinse, then spin, the fill with rinse again, then spin, unless u choose extra rinse. What is the purpose of the recirculation pump? Oh and this washer doesn't have a "water plus" button does it? I don't think it does though could be wrong. :)

Thanks


Post# 356677 , Reply# 9   6/13/2009 at 02:01 (5,423 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Read an article years ago on front loading washer desgin and water usage. It clearly stated that once water levels fell below a certian level (say to decrease water/energy use), a recirculating pump is then required, otherwise laundry would never become clean/well rinsed.


This is what the LG machine does.

To keep water levels within parameters for "Energy Star" ratings, something has to keep the puny amount of water moving through laundry, as the normal method of gravity pulling water down through laundry isn't going to work with "wet nap" washing.

L.


Post# 356703 , Reply# 10   6/13/2009 at 09:15 (5,423 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Calypso Like

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This is pretty much the washing method of the Whirlpool Calypso. I think a few collectors that have and use them report favorable results.

MRB


Post# 356707 , Reply# 11   6/13/2009 at 10:13 (5,423 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
My testimonial, once again

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I use the Permanent Press and SANITARY Cycles on my LG more than the others; amounts of water always seem stingy, but I can't argue with success. The only failure is when I use the "PREWASH" option on any cycle besides PP: if the machine is fully loaded with stuff like towels, there isn't enough water to wet all the laundry before it cycles into the first spin before the main wash. On the NORMAL, SANITARY and COTTONS/TOWELS the machine uses very little water, but, with the recirculating spray, everything gets wet quickly. Also, it ups the water levels for all rinse periods. Whatever cycle I use, the LG is far and away the best washing machine I've ever used in this country. As I've said many times on this site, I'm a pastry chef with weeks and weeks of really dirty clothes that would do a testing laboratory proud. No machine has been able to wash and rinse my stuff as well as the LG. I collect lots of beautiful top loaders, but don't use them for much beyond soaking because they are simply not as effective, efficient and "green" as the LG. Even when I do a load in one of my vintage machines, I always do a finishing 1200 rpm spin in the LG.

I haven't tried a Miele in this country yet, but unless I can find one that has a large capacity and runs on 220v, I'm not going to switch. I'd like to buy an old-style small capacity 220v Miele, but I have no funds for "toys" right now. I've been luckier than most LG customers I think, but I'm very satisfied with this wonderful machine. The only thing they could do to improve the LG washer is to manufacture it to run on 220 so cycles would go faster and I could have a true "boil" wash when I wanted one.


Post# 356758 , Reply# 12   6/13/2009 at 15:27 (5,422 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Hmmmm

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Well I'm not sure but I don't think my Duet even has a recirculating pump.


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