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Extreme sudslock drama in Europe!!
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Post# 356936   6/14/2009 at 11:15 (5,401 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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For those who don't read often in the Super Forum and missed the thread of Eddy's and Wiljan's visit to my place for a wash in I thought it would be fun to share this video.






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Post# 356965 , Reply# 1   6/14/2009 at 12:08 (5,401 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Eddy filmed the AEG with the lid open and with less suds...







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And Wiljan filmed this machine too, including a few spins with less drama.







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Post# 357030 , Reply# 2   6/14/2009 at 15:57 (5,401 days old) by mielabor ()        

Now how did that happen. Did you put a whole box of detergent in the machine?

Post# 357034 , Reply# 3   6/14/2009 at 16:37 (5,401 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

You must have used some Viva!

Post# 357040 , Reply# 4   6/14/2009 at 17:01 (5,401 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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We did a load of thick towels and a bathrobe with a regular amount of (European) Ariel. Normally it does 5 rinses before it spins but we let it spin directly after the main wash. The Ariel is a relatively sudsy detergent and the bath towels probably frothed it up very badly. Besides that there is very little space between the drum and the tub. I guess this combination lead to a very hefty sudslock.

Post# 357045 , Reply# 5   6/14/2009 at 17:14 (5,401 days old) by mielabor ()        

And there is no detection of sudslock so that the machine stops spinning immediately?

Post# 357046 , Reply# 6   6/14/2009 at 17:19 (5,401 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Shades of Brady Bunch LOL

Post# 357122 , Reply# 7   6/15/2009 at 01:39 (5,401 days old) by hooverzodiac12 (Melbourne, Australia)        

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how come it looks as if it's supposed to move up and down? lol has it got some sort of suspension under it??


Post# 357129 , Reply# 8   6/15/2009 at 03:33 (5,401 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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No, this machine doesn't have a detection system for sudslocks. It just goes straight into spin, no balancing, no sensing of whatsoever.

Brady Bunch revisit indeed!

This machine has no suspension system inside. It's on springs and casters. This design saved space inside the cabinet which made it a very compact machine with regular capacity. They were very popular with people who didn't have space for a regular washer. This design was used in Eastern Europe too, I think the Hajdu Energomat was built in Hungary. Video of a Hajdu:


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Post# 357370 , Reply# 9   6/16/2009 at 03:18 (5,400 days old) by mielabor ()        

So (after watching the video from the link) it is quite normal for this machine to spill water during spinning? That means that you could only place it in the bathroom or similar space with a waterproof floor.

If I remember correctly, our neighbours had a Miele washer of similar construction in the 1970's. Never noticed the water spillage though.


Post# 357502 , Reply# 10   6/16/2009 at 14:06 (5,399 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Most of the time only a little water to none will come out of the top during the spin cycle. But it is indeed a good idea to put this machine on a floor that can deal with water.

Miele made a few toploaders as well, but most of them didn't spin like my Automatic 400. For a while Miele manufactured a model that did a spin. That machine did have no suspension at all. It was the Miele W473. Here's a picture.


Post# 357512 , Reply# 11   6/16/2009 at 14:39 (5,399 days old) by kic ()        
Sudslock

I have owned many of the 64 sl and almost all of them had hairline cracks around the "bolts" on either side of the drum. I have never witnessed the final result of those hairline cracks, but I could just imagine the catastrophe.
below is a pic of my Lavamat 240. This one is still young and in excellent shape.
Foraloysius have you experienced or heard of these hairline cracks? could it be as a result of suds locking or could it simply be age?
any insight would be greatly appreciated as it still boggles my mind.

Louis.


Post# 357518 , Reply# 12   6/16/2009 at 15:05 (5,399 days old) by mielabor ()        

Yes Louis,

That Miele washer looks very much, if not identical, to the machine my neighbours had.


Post# 357533 , Reply# 13   6/16/2009 at 16:33 (5,399 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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It's Eddy.

I've heard stories of extreme sudslock wherever he goes!

Beware wash-in hosts - beware!

:-)


Post# 357718 , Reply# 14   6/17/2009 at 11:02 (5,398 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

He needs URGENTLY a bottle of Eco Plush, a brazilian cheap softener with an awful smell. it's the best softener to kill suds.

If you fill a Frigidaire Affinity with suds up to the top (Brazilian Omo or Ace liquid and the American Tide Regular are great to do that.) you just drip a few drops (less than a coffee spoon) in the detergent dispenser and a glass of water, all the suds will dissapear in less than 3 seconds and the water will be as white as milk with not even a single bubble.

When I get a camera I'll post a video of it. The suds look like boiling water.


Post# 357762 , Reply# 15   6/17/2009 at 13:44 (5,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Theo,

That machine was an 80's model, not a 70's I think.

Greg,

I knew it on forehand LOL, just took the risk. And it was worth it, we had a great time.

Thomas,

Fortunately I have a bottle of Amway/SA8 fabric softener, that is greasy enough to kill all the suds.



Post# 357769 , Reply# 16   6/17/2009 at 14:46 (5,398 days old) by mielabor ()        

Louis,

I am sure that they had it before 1975. Maybe it was a different model, but it was definitely a low top loader. I can remember that it struck me that they had such a small machine in their big kitchen where the ceiling was at least 3.5 metres high!


Post# 357782 , Reply# 17   6/17/2009 at 16:03 (5,398 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Theo,

Was that machine a Miele? Did it spin?


Post# 357845 , Reply# 18   6/17/2009 at 23:58 (5,398 days old) by kic ()        
foraloysius,

I always admire your Towels... so clean and crisp. looking at them makes want to take a shower and use one!



Post# 357850 , Reply# 19   6/18/2009 at 00:24 (5,398 days old) by mielabor ()        

Louis,

Yes, it was a Miele. They wouldn't buy anything else!

I had my doubts about the spinning, but according to my mother it did.


Post# 357932 , Reply# 20   6/18/2009 at 11:34 (5,397 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Louis,

Thank you very much. You made my day! LOL. Actually those towels are only my handtowels, my shower towels are a bit larger.

Theo,

Could it be this machine? It's from the Miele 1975/76 catalogue.





Post# 357933 , Reply# 21   6/18/2009 at 11:39 (5,397 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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BTW, my AEG toploader was also with a V-Zug label on it as V-Zug Adorina 3.

Post# 357965 , Reply# 22   6/18/2009 at 14:03 (5,397 days old) by kic ()        

You're most welcome.

Post# 357974 , Reply# 23   6/18/2009 at 14:34 (5,397 days old) by mielabor ()        

Louis,

I'll ask my mother again. The first one that you showed to me did look familiar. The model from 1975/76 can only be possible if it was sold already before that date. I know for sure that it is before 1975 because my neighbour (strange, there isn't a female version for this in English?) died in 1974 and she had it obviously before that time.

Now I come to think of it, I have never seen the washers that I knew in my youth anywhere else: not the Bico, not the Bauknecht, not the washer that my neighbours had...


Post# 357979 , Reply# 24   6/18/2009 at 14:53 (5,397 days old) by mielabor ()        
Model number recycling...

That's odd, just found that Miele used model number W400 recently for a completely different machine.

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Post# 358074 , Reply# 25   6/18/2009 at 21:29 (5,397 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
That Eddy

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trouble! Looks like a fun afternoon. And yes Louis your towels look superb and inviting! I should get some snow white towels, I always buy colored ones.

Its a bouncey little upstart of a no nonsense washer that throws itself right into its task! I can see why Louis has an affinity for one.



Post# 358230 , Reply# 26   6/19/2009 at 16:49 (5,396 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
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But Jon, that is a different machine. :P

Theo,

Yes, that model Miele was sold way before 1976, I have a same model which Miele told me was made in 1967 or 1968.


Post# 358233 , Reply# 27   6/19/2009 at 16:56 (5,396 days old) by favorit ()        
...no sensortronic spin on the TL Lavamat :-)

Louis does your frontloader Lavamat have the sensortronic spin ?

(for those not AegAddicted the transalation from AEGish :
Sensortronic = foam detection spinning pattern + further rinses in case of severe sudslock)


Post# 358380 , Reply# 28   6/20/2009 at 14:51 (5,395 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Sensortronic

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Yes, my frontloader AEG (Öko Lavamat 6450) indeed has the Sensortronic system.


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