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Post# 358062   6/18/2009 at 20:46 (5,397 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Maytag Neptune MAH5500BWW, I'm sure it needs a bearing, loud during spin, and a little play with the tub...

getting different stories from different part houses, some say I need a complete new outter tub assy, others say just a bearing package but not sure which one, and if It's all included in one or several parts, and do I need a special tool to remove and install....not to mention the prices varies a lot between places...

SO could you tell me what I need and whats involved, if it is even worth it to do or just scrap it...and whats the best place for the best price....any help would be appreciated






Post# 358093 , Reply# 1   6/18/2009 at 23:07 (5,397 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)        
Damn bearing!

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Some have said they got bearings from "other" places. My only experience is to replace the outer tub which has the bearing already pressed in it. I also replace the "spinner support" or sometimes call the spider or shaft. Not sure where the best part house is. Someone else may have to chime in on that one or you may have to shop around. I would imagine the price for the parts are going to be very close inprice from one place to another. The last time i did one (back in 06') the outer tub was about $200 and the shaft/support was about $100. It seems that i use to get about $600 for parts and labor for the whole repair. Im going back a few years so please dont hold me to the prices :)

Post# 358154 , Reply# 2   6/19/2009 at 07:41 (5,396 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

I don't know of the consumer Maytag Neptune tub units are the same as the commercial ones, but on the commercial ones I believe you can get bearings for them. Maybe you can even get a bearing kit. Here is a link that may help you

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Post# 358171 , Reply# 3   6/19/2009 at 11:26 (5,396 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Rebearing that puppy!

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We just press out the old bearings and replace them and a new seal. The only question is if your spinner support shaft (the spider...) is in good shape or is too scored to reuse. We used all sorts of homebrew methods to remove the old and then seat the new bearings until we invested in this tool. Pricey! BUT... worth it for us as we rebuild a fair amount of Neptunes with great success. This thing makes it so quick and easy that it's not even funny! One thought is that you could buy the tool and not only fix yours but then possibly obtain other Neptunes with the same issue for next to nothing, fix them and sell thru C/L for extra cash to help justify getting the tool. OR, make your own like we had. It's doable without this tool with a little improvisation. The big bearing is the same as the Dependable Care brake package bearing and the little is the same as the spin bearing that's part of the milkstool support on the SAV washer. The seal kits are available separately.

RCD


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Post# 358209 , Reply# 4   6/19/2009 at 15:30 (5,396 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        
Yes, I want to keep this one, then I'll have four units

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I have a massive garage with all sorts of tools, and bearing pullers for all types of automotive applications, and I was wondering if this may be the same type of tool I could configure, even a machine shop could remove and replace it for me if I run into problems, just wondering what ALL I needed to complete this job, if you have part numbers for the bearings and seals, the parts places aren't sure what I need, and I don't want to get in the middle and have to stop, but if you do that would be great, I seen the Tonytool before on youtube, a little steep in price, when I probably have similar tools at home, this IS a big project for me to handle, t willing to give it a try, I got the set for $200.00 on CL, verynice and clean, no noise when washing, only during the spin, and there's a little play in the tub, hopefully not ground into the spider, but we'll see...........

thanks for the info guys...........


Post# 358328 , Reply# 5   6/20/2009 at 03:39 (5,395 days old) by ultramatic52 (Mexico City)        
Bearing replacement!!!

Hi everyone. I think that Maytag saying that bearings are not replaceble is bullshit. Three weeks ago, one of my clients asked me to looked at her Neptune Stacked Laundry Center bought 2 years ago, which seemed like an airplane taking off during the spin cycle. So I removed the outer tub from the machine and took it home for repair. At home I took the spider off so easy I was surprised. Then I removed the seals and the front bearing was all gone and cover in rust. I didnīt use any special tool to remove the bearings. With the tub upside down and laying on the floor, I introduced a large plain screwdriver through the hole making the separator go to one wall and stick the screwdriver in one of the walls of the front bearing. I gave three soft hits to the screwdriver with a hammer and the bearing got off. Then I turned the tub arround and did the same thing with other bearing, but this time I put the tub not in the floor. I used 2 chairs to stand the tub on, in order to get it suspended, since the back bearing wouldnīt come off if you stand the tub at the floor. After I got both bearings out I just order them in a appliance part store. Front beraing is 6207 2RS and the back bearing is 6206 2RS. The 2RS means they come with double neoprene seals instead of steel seals, which are supposed to be stainless but they still get rusted. I also bought the seal kit. Then I did the exact same steps but from the end to the beggining. Before inserting the bearing I sanded the bearing cage with a really soft water sand paper. Then I first introduce the back bearing. Using a rubber hammer I was able to introduce it all the way down to its final position. What I did to prevent ruining the new bearing was that I put the old bearing on top of the new one and hit the old one. This will make the new one go on to the correct place. Then I turned the tub upside down and lay it on the floor (back bearing reaching the floor which prevents it from coming off) I inserted the separator (first I also sand it, cleaned it and apply a little amount of high temperature automotive grease on its walls)then put the new front bearing and hit it with the rubber hammer and the old bearing till it was on its place. I double check none of them were loose. I replace the old seal with the correct one (since seal kit brings 2 types) and put some high temperature silicone (black and itīs used to close cars transmisions) arround the seal edges. Let it dry. I sanded the spider and stick it in and with the rubber hammer I pressed it a little bit more until it was on the correct place. Put the tub back on the machine and now it runs so silent that you could bearly notice the machine is working. The spin phase is a little louder but you hear the motor more the the bearings turning.

Everything here took me about 30 min to do. Bearings were 6207 $4.80 USD and the 6206 $3.80 USD. Seal kit was about $35.00 USD I donīt know why. Itīs a pretty cheap repair that the only skill needed is knowing how to open the machine, take the tub away and the replace everything back. I really donīt think there is any need for special tools. On the other hand, if you constantly change Neptune bearings, then I suggest you buy the Tony Tool which will make job easier and faster and there will be no need to take the outer tub apart.

I hope this information is helpfull. If anyone has any question I will be happy to answer. IīM SORRY FOR THIS LONG WRITTING BUT SINCE ENGLISH IS NOT MY NATIVE LANGUAGE I SOMETIMES DONīT KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN MYSELF USING FEWER WORDS!!!!! Thanks for understanding!!!


Post# 358349 , Reply# 6   6/20/2009 at 09:38 (5,395 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        
Thnaks Ultramatic52

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this is what I needed to know, I the garage and tools, I even have a LIFT if needed, but never got into one of these and wondered if I could do it myself....I can change an engine and repair my cars, and do a lot of work on machines, but this is new territory for me....will let you know how I made out, can't wait to get started, many thanks to all you guys for the help......

Post# 359292 , Reply# 7   6/24/2009 at 18:46 (5,391 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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nobody has a clue to these part numbers.....does anyone know what part place I should use for these numbers....

also whats the part number for the seals....


HELP!


Post# 359293 , Reply# 8   6/24/2009 at 19:00 (5,391 days old) by davek ()        

6207

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Post# 359294 , Reply# 9   6/24/2009 at 19:01 (5,391 days old) by davek ()        

6206

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Post# 359295 , Reply# 10   6/24/2009 at 19:11 (5,391 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        
Dave....

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I could jump thru the computer and....well, nevermind what I could do to you....

puzzled...6207 is 35mm opening
and the 6206 is 30mm opening

shouldn't they both be the same size?

and where will I be able to find the seals at?


thanks a million dude!


Post# 359421 , Reply# 11   6/25/2009 at 07:54 (5,390 days old) by davek ()        

Those are the bearings that I found based on those numbers. I suppose that they could be wrong, but I would guess that the size difference would be because one has to go in past the other. Good luck.

Post# 359432 , Reply# 12   6/25/2009 at 08:51 (5,390 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for the price, I'll try it, thanks a million....

Post# 359938 , Reply# 13   6/27/2009 at 11:12 (5,388 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Official Maytag part numbers...

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Small rear bearing 22003441
Large front bearing 22002934
Seal Kit 12002022

Hope this helps!

RCD


Post# 360000 , Reply# 14   6/27/2009 at 17:57 (5,388 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Thanks RCD.....now I can start....

Post# 362127 , Reply# 15   7/6/2009 at 15:36 (5,379 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        
It's been saved

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after ordering the parts...and a few hours of time, just taking my time to make it work our right, and studying the paper work that came with them....the bearings are installed and running tip top....and so quiet....make the other one sound loud...may need those bearings replaced within the year...but at least I know what I'm doing now....

Thanks for all the help from you guys.....HUGS


Post# 362129 , Reply# 16   7/6/2009 at 15:44 (5,379 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Awesome Martin - glad to hear it worked out! Sorry for getting to this thread so late. What method did you use to change out the bearings?

Ben


Post# 362134 , Reply# 17   7/6/2009 at 15:59 (5,379 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I did what Ultramatic said to do.....it just took a lot of pounding with the hammer and a long screwdriver, but it did finally come out, and the same with the front bearing.....the front was easier to get out because of the position of the tub, as well as as putting IN the rear bearing, which also took a lot of pounding using the old bearing on top to reduce pounding on the new one, the seal slipped in nicely, but according to the directions, just slide the inner tub in place and using the pulley and screw from the rear is supposed to help set everything in place, not so, had to put whole unit back on to the chairs and step inside and put my weight onto it, then it popped in place...a lot to disconnect and reconnect....but in the end...all worth it!....also had to reuse the inner spacer, just clean everything very well before assembly, and it all works nicely.....

I ordered all the parts from PARTSTORE.com...if you order $75.00 worth of stuff shipping is free...they told me 5 to 7 days for delivery, had it the next morning, the bearings were a little cheaper at the bearing store.com but with shipping would have cost more....I ordered a drain hose to put me just over 75.00....

again....many, many, many thanks for the input!


Post# 362135 , Reply# 18   7/6/2009 at 16:01 (5,379 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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also...the seal kit gives you a new washer and bolt for the pulley...supposed to end any bearing knock these machines have...I have not had that problem...but nice to know they included these items.....

Post# 362175 , Reply# 19   7/6/2009 at 19:00 (5,379 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Martin joins the ranks of the Neptune Slayers!

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Good deal. You have just saved a TON of money over just buying the whole tub from Whirlpool. Sooner or later you'd think Maytag/Whirlpool would catch on and make a kit aimed directly at repairing the machine without buying a tub...

RCD


Post# 362278 , Reply# 20   7/7/2009 at 07:27 (5,378 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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you think they would, even under warranty this can be expensive, maybe a little easier to replace, but still cost wise, I think I'm gonna order another set for my other neptune in case they decide to discontinue these in favor of the whole tub replacement.....

I tell you though, these puppies look nice all lined up together in my laundry room, I'll get a pic asap.....

yes, and talk about money savings, with the extra drain hose which just put me over $75.00, and free shiping, total investment $275.00 for a very nice clean set, you can't beat it....and so freakin quiet, I don't think they were this quiet when they were new!



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