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Post# 369061   8/2/2009 at 12:05 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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As I posted on another thread the Indesit is on the blink so seeing as we were desperate for towels and work clothes we agreed to install this machine for a few washes namely for the 1300 spin, lower water and energy consumption and largish load so I could catch up on as much washing as possible.

The carbon brushes were changed when we bought it so all that remained was a quick wipe over and away we went after a quick rinse and spin out.






Post# 369064 , Reply# 1   8/2/2009 at 12:07 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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and away we go

Arty shots


Post# 369067 , Reply# 2   8/2/2009 at 12:08 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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50*c Minimum Iron

Post# 369068 , Reply# 3   8/2/2009 at 12:09 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Washing

Post# 369069 , Reply# 4   8/2/2009 at 12:09 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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While I prepared lunch

Post# 369070 , Reply# 5   8/2/2009 at 12:10 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Into cool down

Post# 369072 , Reply# 6   8/2/2009 at 12:11 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Rinsing and creasguard

Post# 369073 , Reply# 7   8/2/2009 at 12:12 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Videos to be youtubed asap.

Nice crease free results, cant be a slow spin to reduce ironing!


Post# 369075 , Reply# 8   8/2/2009 at 12:17 (5,378 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Awesome! Everytime i see a logic just as i decide to get rid of it i think, prehaps i'll restore it again...It looks a treat in your kitchen guys!!

Darren


Post# 369079 , Reply# 9   8/2/2009 at 12:57 (5,378 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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oh......cool

I love ecologics. was going to buy one but it went really high n it was nearby. :(

Looks gr8 in ur kitchen as darren says :)

LoL- it reminded me as my gran used J on her logic minimum iron 50oc all the time and when it went on crease guard she'd put it on F so special treatments follwoed by 1200 spin.


Post# 369089 , Reply# 10   8/2/2009 at 14:41 (5,378 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Nice one. Love the arty shot, very similar to the one Darren and I did years ago now with a pair of shoes and a big bottle of Bold alongside the Logic.

BTW I haven't seen the tall boxes of Ariel before, how many washes is it? 60?

Jon


Post# 369092 , Reply# 11   8/2/2009 at 14:46 (5,378 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

BTW Rob it's just occurred to me.... It's only struck me now that you have a box of Ariel besides your machine and not Persil. Has the new smell put you off too??

Jon


Post# 369095 , Reply# 12   8/2/2009 at 15:02 (5,378 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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The smell?????

yep not to mention the rather poor cleaning Jon.

What the bloody hell have they done to Persil?

The box size is 3.36kg and 42 washes.
Its rather retro too. Nice to have tall slim boxes back.

Persil lost scores with me for not being able to clean white cotton dishcloths or stained teatowels to even an acceptable standard and thats even on a boil.

Ariel still needs the 95degrees to work magic IMHO but it really does do the job.

Am flitting between softeners though, Lenor Breath of Fresh Air and Comfort Aloe and Blue.

I believe that Persils scents will be changing again soon (according to the Lever rep) and a reformulation but I will believe it when I see it. For now they have lost my custom.

Well the news is in too folks and thats to say the Hoover does actually clean better than the Indesit which I didnt think it would.

The 95degree wash barely takes 1hr 50 compared to 2hrs 30 in the modern machine and the results were (only just better to my eye) but the shorter time it took makes it all.






Post# 369098 , Reply# 13   8/2/2009 at 15:15 (5,378 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Nice one - where do you find that size? The only boxes I've seen have been 10, 28 and 50 wash but that's at Asda and Sainsbury's. Not paid attention to the powder in Tesco for a long time.

Can't wait for the Persil reformulation - I loved the previous formula and it definitely was better than Ariel. I had a small slither of hope that the smell would change when it got concentrated, but alas it didn't :-(.

Mentioned in another thread that I got some comfort Aloe the other day with the matching Persil Naturals powder - will have to test it out when I get the chance :-).

Jon


Post# 369115 , Reply# 14   8/2/2009 at 16:49 (5,377 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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You mean THIS picture jon!!

Post# 369185 , Reply# 15   8/3/2009 at 03:20 (5,377 days old) by aquacycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Soap powder...

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I've found that Bold and Surf both have good results. Also, Asda's own is pretty good and nice and cheap too. The Bold Liqu-tabs and tablets both perform well and I've used the Surf powder which was good too. Asda's comes in liquid, liqu-tabs, tablets and powder - all of which I've found works well on various cycles and temperatures. Hope this helps :)

Post# 369286 , Reply# 16   8/3/2009 at 13:31 (5,377 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        

DAMMIT!! I wish I had room for a FL as I would LOVE one of those machines. My singing teacher used to have a TOL Ecologic and still does I think (gets little use). A local shop had a second hand one in the window for months and was SO tempted. Kitchen would need reconfiguring and I ain't doing that!!

Post# 369585 , Reply# 17   8/4/2009 at 15:18 (5,376 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Post# 369589 , Reply# 18   8/4/2009 at 15:25 (5,376 days old) by aquacycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Rob...

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..does this machine do that clicky thing when it starts? My aunt has the same model and I always remember it clicking when it first comes on.

Post# 369613 , Reply# 19   8/4/2009 at 17:14 (5,375 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Rob

So then I hope there is no delay with those drum lifters arriving, hate for you to have to suffer the hoover for much longer lol. Glad your having such fun with the ecologic and getting such great results, but then its what we knew all along lol. All the best for the indesit repair, chat soon

Mathew


Post# 369684 , Reply# 20   8/5/2009 at 01:44 (5,375 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Secret knowledge

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Grins at Mathew ;-)

Post# 370102 , Reply# 21   8/6/2009 at 16:28 (5,373 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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All caught up now, last load drying.

Aquacycle yes it certainly does do that tick tick tick thing as all fingerwheel logics did.

Jon, yes I think that shape and size box may be a Tesco exclusive if you like as I too have not seen it elsewhere.

Paul, you know you want one!!!!! Sod the kitchen lol.

Mathew, it may be cleaner than Merloni but it aint cleaner than anything North Wales were producing until 2000.
Duck and Runs :)

The Indesit is repaired but have yet had the heart to remove the Hoover, could I be attached?
Indesit back on Sunday I think, dont want to wear it out.

Well Gary, if you want to swap that Bosch for this Ecologic il gladly swap. NOT lol, Ducks lower and runs faster pmpl.




Post# 370103 , Reply# 22   8/6/2009 at 16:30 (5,373 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
oh shit!

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just realised whats in the photo and yes im suitably embaressed.

i promise NEVER to buy it again.

LOL


Post# 370109 , Reply# 23   8/6/2009 at 16:49 (5,373 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Oh Lordy Lordy..!!!

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There is a God after all....!!!! "Wouldnt Be Seen Dead With That ****"

Now Say After Me People..!!!

"We Love Ariel"

"We Love Ariel"

Louder, I Cant here You!!!

"We Love Ariel"

"We Love Ariel"

"Down With Own Brand"

"Down With Own Brand"

Ariel Cleans Better

Thank You - Ariel...!!!!!! Go On - You Know You`ll Love it Too...!!!



Post# 370123 , Reply# 24   8/6/2009 at 17:05 (5,373 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Yehhh

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Next - you`ll be tellin us you did one wash with it and that you now use it to clean ya floors!!!!

Lol - and placed next to that hallowed washer no less..."How Very dare You"...Lol


Post# 370130 , Reply# 25   8/6/2009 at 17:20 (5,373 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Evidence that clears my good name!

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I wont ever settle for nothing less than perfection,

Last night at my parents my Mum handed me 2 towels which I had mistakenly left there over 18 months ago which they had been using weekly.

Washed using a combination of 40 degrees and 60degrees with Ariel Excel Gel, Daz powder, Fairy 2X liquids, all those ones that claim 15/30degree magic.

When I brought them home and compared to the ones I had here that are used weekly and washed no lower than 95 degrees the results were disgusting,

See for yourself what washing whites lower than 95 degrees does.

LHS Boiled towel
RHS 40/60 degree towel


Post# 370131 , Reply# 26   8/6/2009 at 17:22 (5,373 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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the difference is black and white

Post# 370132 , Reply# 27   8/6/2009 at 17:26 (5,373 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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it aint there now!

its in the bin


Post# 370159 , Reply# 28   8/6/2009 at 18:27 (5,373 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Id have put it in the machine for a few hot cycles - wouldve given you a good excuse to sit & watch the Ecologic work its magic for a few hours ;-)

Post# 370301 , Reply# 29   8/7/2009 at 13:02 (5,373 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
WOW

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Aquarius1984, thats amazing at the results on your towels, i always wash towels at 60 but i occasionally do a boil wash at 90

thats good that ariel cleans well, i'd like to get some again but


i'm not convinced with the scent, never liked the piney citrusy scent.

if its more muted then i would buy it, but if its excellent at cleaning you have to have a compromise







Post# 370333 , Reply# 30   8/7/2009 at 15:58 (5,372 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Not to be picky but.....

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As its only the Daz powder on that list that contains oxygen bleach thats probably got a lot to do with it as well. My white towels get 60 but always with a bleach containing powder(Miele Ultrawhite being the current favourite).

And before I get my head bitten off its just my opinion- when to live on your own and pay all your own electricity bill it kinda makes you think a bit more economy minded as well lol!

Seamus


Post# 370337 , Reply# 31   8/7/2009 at 16:29 (5,372 days old) by bertrum ()        

Your spot on about the bleaching agent making the difference Seamus, liquid contains no bleach neither does any detergnet that is for colours, that is making the difference, even more so than the temperature.

Post# 370567 , Reply# 32   8/8/2009 at 14:24 (5,372 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
washing powders

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gawd ere we go :-)........I too use 60 degree for whites but i have always used Daz or any other powder that contains bleaching agents for this.
Though I remember back in the early 80s, Persil and Aerial both contained bleaching agents and they would fade colours, the only powder i knew of that did not contain bleaching agents then was Dreft automatic.
I used to study the ingrediants on powders because i was fed up with my colours fading, infact a rep for aerial in Sainsburys told me to turn my coloureds inside out and this would stop the fading.............load of old tosh that was.
Then the colour powders starting appearing here long after they were available in Germany for example

Right thats me pieces sed :-)


Post# 370577 , Reply# 33   8/8/2009 at 15:26 (5,372 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
white fabrics and Whiter than White?

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Apparently the reason why white fabrics turn yellow is because they were never white in the first place, some fabrics are dyed white so you get a yellowy tinge if you wash them at high temperatures, which is why some fabrics have 40c labels on them

Hot water can strip the white dye out of the fabric leaving it a chewing gum white colour or a dingy white

if the stain says hot but the label says not

trust ariel to get it clean, even in cool water.

i could never boil wash whites at 90c, it seems a bit impractical and a strain on your electric bill, most whites will get white and clean enough on a 60 degree wash, or even a 40 degree wash

i have alot of white t-shirts with logos on and i could never boil wash them to get them whiter than white, a swish around the washer with a scoop of Daz or Ariel at 40c will do the trick.

i would have thought 60 on towels would be hot enough to get whites white enough












Post# 370978 , Reply# 34   8/10/2009 at 16:09 (5,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Liam

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The towels were not thrown away, but the Value powder was after Mike caught site of it and promptly mocked me via text message.

Talk about social suicide, of all the places it had to be here.

I have tried it and the price reflects it performance so its not for me.

God know how many washes it will take to remove the build up so im not holding my breath nor expecting a full set of perfect towels for a while.

Again as I said above its not exactly a great advert for liquids promising perfect whites in cold water or powders that promise the same in warmer waters, proof enough to me that they dont work.

Anyway now Mike has had his fun I guess its back to the machine - I half expected a load of mockery from the Midlands lot LOL.

Paul took some arty shots I only just noticed on the camera so il post them.


Post# 370979 , Reply# 35   8/10/2009 at 16:10 (5,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Arty

Post# 370980 , Reply# 36   8/10/2009 at 16:12 (5,369 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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The casted shadows brochure shot minus croissants, caffetiere and drapes

Post# 370997 , Reply# 37   8/10/2009 at 16:44 (5,369 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Now it's my turn.....

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...is that Ecover concentrate on top of the powder tub???

Post# 371016 , Reply# 38   8/10/2009 at 18:35 (5,369 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Glad to hear the towels are still with us! They did look mingin though, id use them to test out the boilwash cycles on all of your collection!

That does look like Ecover to me too - is it any good? Ive said to Mum about using it but it's quite expensive for a small box, so we tend to use something like Daz, or this week, Ariel. The Ecover washing up liquid is nice though.


Post# 371265 , Reply# 39   8/11/2009 at 15:17 (5,369 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
but Rob

Would you swap two packets of your old powder for new Ariel, (yes I know the ad was for daz)but I think rob is a more descerning customer. lol

Racked with guilt I nigh on boiled up my towels in the AEG lavalux on the weekend, I must be mad lol.

Hope you enjoyed your time with the Hoover and the indesit is up and running again, at least now Paul can sleep easy knowing it's back safe in storage.

Thanks for some great photos and a fun thread, Mathew


Post# 371267 , Reply# 40   8/11/2009 at 15:22 (5,369 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        
pic

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can you post a pic of your indesit

Post# 371270 , Reply# 41   8/11/2009 at 15:44 (5,368 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Its bloody not back in store Mathew...

...its still plumbed in and in use!

Saw it at the weekend just gone, doing some very well behaved 1300rpm spins.
We have now added some improvements to the powder drawer to stop it rattling at high rpms. Its wonderful what tape can do! am also armed with blue tack as well.

Myself and Mike are off to pick up some machines this saturday (you know what they are - dont spill the beans!), so will let mike have a watch of the ecologic, then rob will probably switch back to Indesit use on sunday.

That is the plan anyway. whether it actually happens like that is another thing.

hope all is well with your good self - will let you know what goes on over the weekend!

cheers
paul


Post# 371289 , Reply# 42   8/11/2009 at 16:38 (5,368 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Not fair.....

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So I guess that means the rest of us will have to wait until we see them then?


Post# 371297 , Reply# 43   8/11/2009 at 16:59 (5,368 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Chris.

Should the plans pan out as expected, I will unveil one of the machines on Sunday-ish.

The other one is being saved for unveiling over the UK bank holiday weekend, at the end of August.

Fingers crossed all goes as planned.

Paul


Post# 372035 , Reply# 44   8/14/2009 at 09:14 (5,366 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
New Hoover Washer

Hi guys.

Just received my Which mag and there is a small article on the new Hoover Dynamic, model, DYN10146P. They have a 10kg wash load, say they can take a duvet. The only downside is they say Hoover washers get a low reliability score.

Paul


Post# 372055 , Reply# 45   8/14/2009 at 10:41 (5,366 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Does the New Dynamic look like the Vision HD's? I saw a new Hoover Optima in Currys the other day and it looks horrid. It's styled like the VHD but without the colourful bits, it's totally white with grey writing i think. Most boring.

Shame as i think theyve used these machines to replace the Nextras, which i thought were verrrrry pretty. :-(

Just my 2 pence worth!



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