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Thread Number: 2374
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| Post# 70314 6/14/2005 at 20:05 (6,888 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado) | ||
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groan CLICK HERE TO GO TO partscounterman's LINK | ||
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Post# 70318 , Reply# 1 6/14/2005 at 20:15 (6,888 days old) by toggleswitch  (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 70322 , Reply# 3 6/14/2005 at 20:27 (6,888 days old) by jdinstl () | ||
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....thwack my head... ...I said "outsourcing" but the word I meant to use is "offshoring" Sorry for the cunfuzzling... John | ||
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Post# 70367 , Reply# 4 6/15/2005 at 00:07 (6,888 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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If NAFTA didn't kill our USA companies, FTAA will! Something to read when you get a chance! Every company wants to make a profit and doing it over seas is cheap but who really wins in the long run? Not us because its disposable and American job are being tossed away at the same time........ We all lose because we lost our jobs for cheap labor and goods that are sold to us is made in sweat shops and the products only last for a short period of time because of the off shore trading and American pride was not included in building the materials. Something to think about! CLICK HERE TO GO TO CleanteamofNY's LINK | ||
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Post# 70383 , Reply# 7 6/15/2005 at 07:40 (6,888 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 70391 , Reply# 9 6/15/2005 at 09:11 (6,887 days old) by Spiraclean (UK) | ||
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Post# 70400 , Reply# 10 6/15/2005 at 11:07 (6,887 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 70401 , Reply# 11 6/15/2005 at 11:26 (6,887 days old) by Spiraclean (UK) | ||
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Greed | ||
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Post# 70409 , Reply# 12 6/15/2005 at 12:03 (6,887 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 70412 , Reply# 13 6/15/2005 at 12:11 (6,887 days old) by westytoploader () | ||
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The scary part is that if this happens, we could actually be importing our automatics from China... By the time this Maytag fiasco is all said and done, those Norgetags will certainly become collectibles, IMHO! | ||
| Post# 70413 , Reply# 14 6/15/2005 at 12:11 (6,887 days old) by Spiraclean (UK) | ||
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Buy US made | ||
| Post# 70417 , Reply# 15 6/15/2005 at 13:40 (6,887 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
A company's side business is to make products, not create employment. It's #1 business is to make money for itself and its shareholders, if it is a publicly held company. Employment is a consequence which just happens to benefit people working in the area of the company and its plants. In my recent dealing with Maytag, they all unanamously cite the UAW as the number one cause for the downfall. Workers are making $100K for sitting and watching robatics make things. People who actually have to work in the plants by screwing cabinets together are making $60-$80 an hour. Maytag just cannot afford to pay that kind of wage for low skill labor. And those wages ARE rediculous! By that standard, I should be paying the people I employ to clean my laundromats well over $200 an hour! No way. The Union will be the first thing to go once the sale is finalized. | ||
| Post# 70440 , Reply# 17 6/15/2005 at 16:27 (6,887 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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Post# 70443 , Reply# 18 6/15/2005 at 16:46 (6,887 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Well, hopefully they will still have the dairy. Their cheese is excellent! Somehow I get the feeling that no matter who buys them out----the BIG plan will be to "part-out" the company, not re-build it. Pity. | ||
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Post# 70448 , Reply# 19 6/15/2005 at 17:16 (6,887 days old) by Goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 70454 , Reply# 21 6/15/2005 at 19:00 (6,887 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV) | ||
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outsourcing jobs Who is going to be left that will be able to buy anything when we are all working part time for the likes of WalMart or a convenience store for minimum wage? Not many..... The whole idea of stock holders and owners being made wealthy while the workers suffer is ridiculous.... | ||
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Post# 70544 , Reply# 23 6/16/2005 at 18:59 (6,886 days old) by PeteK (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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I doubt very much that GE would ever consider manufacturing and marketing white goods in Oz. I can't see them sticking to the business in N.America much longer either. GE's main business strengths are heavy industry, like power plant generators, locomotives and industrial lighting, not to forget GE Finance and Leasing,(they probably make the most from that line of business)
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Post# 70587 , Reply# 24 6/16/2005 at 23:39 (6,886 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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I find it so hard to believe that the USA which imports tons of cheap labor, (and with it scores and scores of social ills, social and monetary costs and disruptions to mainstream society like crime and gangs and welfare cases etc.)... can't find people (home-grown or transplanted) to work at wages commensurate with skills and education levels. ..and if the unions don't see what they are causing in the long-run by the wages they are ridculously demanding, it is truly sad. Remember the days when unskilled labor was paid for unskilled labor? Moderately skilled labor was paid accordingly, skilled labor was paid in accordance to that level, professionals were well paid, etc. I have some friends who never attended college, never fielded two jobs simultaneously never pushed themselves to grow and progress. And they can't understand why they are not well paid and securely employed. Take the easy way way out when young, suffer when old. Today college is mandatory IMHO- it is just a sign of discipline and focus. and on a larger than the indiviual person scale.. We as humans, in theory have the abilty to look backwards and forwards in time and unlike animals do not have to live in the forever-present current moment. Why then, does the human race refuse to look ahead three or four steps and see the consequences of its actions? Maybe a huge defect of this world is that eating and economics (both necessaryfor survival)are both part of the food-chain. One must stomp on those below themselves to survive. G-d I wish that were not true. I apologize for rambling and hope, at this late hour, that this makes some sence and is realted to the issues at hand. Best regards, Steve | ||
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Post# 70606 , Reply# 25 6/17/2005 at 00:40 (6,886 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 70672 , Reply# 28 6/17/2005 at 14:06 (6,885 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado) | ||
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The plot thickens.... read this CLICK HERE TO GO TO partscounterman's LINK | ||
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Post# 70698 , Reply# 29 6/17/2005 at 18:13 (6,885 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Sorry kids I did not mean to offend or dis anyone. It took me 13 years to get 4 year degree (the first one) 5 years full-time, and a course here and there to finally wrap it up. I HATED SCHOOL. Changing schools and then changing majors cost me a semester each! I should have pointed out that my friend is quite lazy in general, and negative to boot, and expects a top-shelf cushy job without the credentials or the experience. Sorry it came out the wrong way! It's never too late. I am over 40 and am in undergrad school 95% finished with a second degree. It's such a treat at this point to walk into a classroom and be the professor's age. For my sheer drive and nerve at doing it now , I think they pass me if I raise my hand once and show up now and then! LOL Never say "never" And the kicker is? I was an accountant for 20 years with a degree in Finance and Investments. (accounting self-taught). Now that I am now out of that industry. I want that little piece of toilet paper suitable for framing. | ||
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Post# 70703 , Reply# 31 6/17/2005 at 19:23 (6,885 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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IMHO- There is dignity in any honest job. Probably the gross-est and simultaneously rewarding job I had was helping a quadriplegic neighbor with his morning needs. ah..this would include forcing the body to have a BM while he was in his wheelchair, bathing him and dressing him. Never forget to thank whomever it is you beieve in that you have your senses and your mobility. Just to say, "Thank you G - - that I met this person and could be in your and his service" I refused the money every few sessions. So if I came off as elitist or snobby or nasty, It was truly not my intent. I have paid my dues, and expect to have to do so again at any time. Life has slapped me down plenty... and you just have to learn to say "Thank you, sir, may I have another" and just to bring it all back down to the level that is expected of me (LOL).... my ethnic group has a really cool expression that says it all. "You can't F _ _ _ me unless I lay down first!" HOPE springs eternal!!!!! -end of sermon. -Kyrie Ele-ison | ||
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Post# 70779 , Reply# 34 6/18/2005 at 08:36 (6,884 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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TKS! As you can probably guess, my personality type and accounting are not necessarily compatible! My last gig as an accountant was with a CPA firm that "did" big famous musical artists that we have all heard-of. That place was as dry as as any desert in the Middle-East, and I'm not talking about a really good de-humidifier, either. When my position was eliminated, I had to calm-down the geek-azoid dork CPA who axed me! LOL LOL LOL I thought he was gonna keel-over! And because the universe is frequently working me in ironic ways... I was to meet the partner and the mother-in-law for dinner and a Broadway show just moments later, that night (a Friday, natch.) I said nothing at first. It took them both an hour to realize I had the contents of my desk in a shopping bag, and that my mood was a bit "off". But I had a wave of something come through me (may I call it the Holy Spirit?) and absolutely KNEW with every fiber of my being that I had to go through the experience and somehow I would land on my feet. The other two at the table were boucing off the ceiling when I dropped the bomb, I was just fine. I was signed up to go back to school P/T for a 2nd degree, so I just switched to F/T. I was on umemployment [the "dole" for the unemployed] for 1.5 years and was able get the schooling nearly finsihed. Got a state license as well as an appraiser.. sent resumes out using the Yellow Pages (bisoness telephone diectory) and got a realy decent job 10 miles (20km) 10 minutes from home. I was able to change careers to something of interest and can make tons more money... BOTTTOM LINE: Good comes out of all experiences no matter how "bad" at the time. ME ME ME ME ME.. LOL thanks for listening! | ||
| Post# 71063 , Reply# 35 6/21/2005 at 16:59 (6,881 days old) by Stainfighter (Columbia, SC) | ||
OMG! It's official on the radio!!! Haier Group!?! | ||
| Post# 71066 , Reply# 36 6/21/2005 at 17:15 (6,881 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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...A moment of silence.... | ||
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Post# 71079 , Reply# 37 6/21/2005 at 18:24 (6,881 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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I saw the news of Haier acquiring Maytag on the Yahoo News homepage. | ||
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Post# 71081 , Reply# 38 6/21/2005 at 18:34 (6,881 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 71131 , Reply# 39 6/21/2005 at 23:23 (6,881 days old) by PeteK (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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| Post# 71163 , Reply# 40 6/22/2005 at 08:45 (6,880 days old) by Stainfighter (Columbia, SC) | ||
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true, it's not final yet...
but it does point to a new chapter in the Maytag saga...it is sad like toggle pointed out what was once a company that had quality as their hallmark, because of so many acquisitions (as one factor) going under. It is giving me pause. I agree that not everyone is college material; having a piece of paper hanging on the wall does not guarantee job security in today's economy, technical skills on the other hand do make people employable
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