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Post# 371230   8/11/2009 at 13:21 (5,364 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Finally managed to get Mums 20 month old Zanussi Essential into the garage and brough my FL1012 into the utility room to give it some use as it'd been stood since March.

So far it's done 3 washes:

1 x Fast Coloureds Heavy Soil (with prewash)
2 x Non fast Coloureds

It completes a 40 degree cotton cycle in an hour - Mum was well happy - the Essential take 2 hours as we have to leave 'Extra Rinse' on permanently, due to the hopelessly small amount of water it uses!

However, I have encountered a few noises from the FL1012 that im abit concerned about, so am asking for advice!

1. The pump was always abit noisy but it drains quicker than our new Zanussi. However, today it let out a nasty screech on wash number two, me & Mum thought it was about to die, but now it's gone back to normal. Im guessing it'll need a new pump before long. Any thoughts guys?

2. Also, the machine sounds quite rough for the first 5 mins of each cycle (even if i put one cycle on straight after another has finished) then it quietens down. Its like a second long gritty drone as the drum starts to rotate. Strange thing is, its as quiet as a mouse after the first 5 mins. It never did this before it went into storage.

Finally, on the intermediate spins between rinses, it squeaks whilst spinning. This is worst when the machine is unbalanced and although its always done it, it now seems louder & is sometimes accompanied by a metallic tapping, which quietens if i hold either side of the machine. This tapping is only apparant on slow spin (around 500rpm) and doesnt occur all the time. Once it speeds up to 1000rpm it's much smoother with no odd noises.

Its quite strange because most of the time it sounds briliant but then all of a sudden it sounds like it's about to take the Utility Room down. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced similar with this type of machine or another old Zanussi, and what the cause might be, etc.

Thanks alot in advance,

Liam :-)




Post# 371239 , Reply# 1   8/11/2009 at 13:59 (5,364 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        
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for problem 2, the belt could be about to brake, it happened on my zanussi fla1002w, it made a grinding kind of sound at the beginning of every turn but went away when up to wash speed, then as we had only had the machine for about 3-4 months, the belt broke and we had to put our old hotpoint 9534 on, and we still have it working because we only just fixed the zanussi about 1 month or so ago and havent had time to change the machines over

Post# 371248 , Reply# 2   8/11/2009 at 14:43 (5,364 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Thanks servisslimline, i will have a hunt on Ebay for a new belt for it, just incase. I can't imagine they cost alot so no harm getting one regardless. I know it's never had anything replaced and must be 20 years old now. If it carries on as it is, i'll leave it plumbed in for a couple of weeks & then swap back to the Essential. Once ove got the FL1012 out, i'll take the back off and have a look.

Will it do damage if the belt goes? It's not like a cambelt on a car, where the snapping means 'bye bye'?

Post# 371251 , Reply# 3   8/11/2009 at 14:52 (5,364 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        
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it is actually, if you leave the belt on without noticing then it will end up bieng ripped to very thin shreads as it would have got weak, it happened to my zanussi, and we took an hour getting all the thin strips of the belt out from where it was caught to the motor and pulley

Post# 371253 , Reply# 4   8/11/2009 at 15:00 (5,364 days old) by fl1012 ()        
Nasty.....

 Is there a simple way to eliminate the belt? Im guessing it should feel rubbery, not feel brittle?

Post# 371266 , Reply# 5   8/11/2009 at 15:20 (5,364 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Hi Liam, I'll try to work my way through the problems.

1. With regards to the pump, it could be wearing out, alternatively, there might have been an obstruction which has now cleared. Have you cleaned out the drain filter lately?

2. Does it sound rough when you spin the drum by hand? It could be the belt, the bearings or motor. The way to eliminate is to disconnect the belt, spin the drum and then spin the motor pulley to see if either make the noise. If neither do, it is the belt causing the trouble.

3. The squeaking has occured on all the FL1012 machines I've used (about 4) and is to do the suspension. The type of suspension used on this machine is a friction damper (different from later Zanussis) and rarely goes wrong. The squeak is nothing to worry about and occurs on my ZFL1023 (same era as FL1012 but jetsystem) when it is out of balance.

Hope that is of some help,

Tom.

Post# 371268 , Reply# 6   8/11/2009 at 15:34 (5,364 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Hi Tom

Thanks so much, that's really helpful :)

I'll respond with numbers next to each problem/observation to make it easier to follow.

1. The drain filter was cleaned about a month ago, whilst it was in storage - i also drained all the water from the filter housing, which im also thinking could have caused the noise, where the pump has got excessively dry? Ive checked the filter again tonight after the 3 washes and it's completely clean.

2. There's no noise at all when i spin the drum by hand in either direction. There is slightly more movement up and down when one agitator is at the top of the drum, but even then the drum only moves by about 5mm, which im guessing is reasonable? I will try the other pointers youve given me aswell, though i might wait till the weekend to see if it settles down as it was moved around alot today as i was struggling to get it level in the utility room.

3. That's a relief! I thought i could hear a similar squeak on some YouTube videos ive watched of similar machines, but it just sounded louder today than before, and when the squeak was at its loudest this metallic tapping started, which made we worry a little. It does definately vary depending on the load type, balance etc, and sometimes doesnt do it at all, so i'll put my mind at rest now youve said it's normal!

Thanks once again, great help.

Liam

Post# 371272 , Reply# 7   8/11/2009 at 15:53 (5,364 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Hi Liam, glad I could be of some help!

I'll respond where I can.

1. It's entirely possible that the pump has got excessively dry. As long as the pump doesn't become noisy or starts leaking I wouldn't think it was too much to worry about.

2. As long as the bearings are silent, the slight movement shouldn't indicate a problem. Bearings tend to be a constant rumbling noise as well, not intermittent. Once you've checked the belt, the only other thing I can think of is to check the carbon brushes on the motor. If they've never been changed on a machine of this age they are likely to be wearing thin.

On a related note to your machine I've found the timer chart and exploded diagrams for the FL1012. You may find them of use or interest. Have a look at the links below.

Tom.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO hotpoint9534's LINK
Post# 371273 , Reply# 8   8/11/2009 at 15:53 (5,364 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

How do Liam.

Glad that Tom is able to help - hope your superb Jetsystem and 9191T are giving good service.

Read the thread, but i am all about visuals and history - the mechanical side i leave to other more knowledgeable people.

You mentioning the FL1012 made me think about mine and Rob's WD1012 and about getting it out for a play. Then i remembered how god damn, bloody heavy it is!!! Will have to wait till a more permanent home is found before plugging that old bird in again.

Great machines - well engineered - the Appliance of Science - but heavy.

Paul
p.s the wd1012 was bought from the local scrapman, who lives down the road from rob's place. spied it on his truck, waiting to be tipped off onto the weighing-in ramp. rob then went about asking people who the truck belonged to. truck identified, house identified , bloke identified and he even delivered it to the door - thank god!

Post# 371274 , Reply# 9   8/11/2009 at 15:55 (5,364 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        
Exploded views for FL1012

 In the link below.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO hotpoint9534's LINK
Post# 371275 , Reply# 10   8/11/2009 at 16:01 (5,364 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        
FL1012 vs. WD1012

 Hi Paul, the WD1012 is without doubt heavier than the FL1012. All the equipment plus the weight of the induction motor must make it even worse than my Jetsystem to move about! The Hotpoint 9534 is much lighter in comparison.

Interesting that the FL1012 used a brush motor, but the WD1012 used an induction. I wonder...

I think my Z9191T needs a new capacitor but that's for another thread!

Tom.


Post# 371282 , Reply# 11   8/11/2009 at 16:16 (5,364 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Tom, thanks for those diagrams - the amount of work that mustve gone into them is crazy! I love how one of them tells you what sort of rotations the machine should be doing at the various stages!

With regard to the problems/observations:

1. The pump is pretty loud to me, but i'll try to explain how loud so you can judge if this is the norm. When the machine is distributing, you can only hear the pump running, you can't hear the motor etc. When the machine spins at 500rpm, you can begin to hear the motor, but most of the noise is from the pump and the squeaking (when it occurs). The only time the pump fades into the background is when it ramps up to 1000rpm - to be honest the machine sounds at its best at this speed!

2. Definately no rumbling, when the machine is washing, the primary noise is the clothes hitting the water, and the motor whiring away in the background comes next (except for the first 5 mins when it makes that strange noise i described earlier). So i think it's safe to say the bearings are probably ok, but it is on its original brushes i believe, so maybe i should get these changed. I won't attempt that job tho!

Thanks once again for the diagrams :)


Paul

Your WD1012 is my machines big bro :) It looks immaculate - did it need a good clean up? That was a lucky find - why the hell do people chuck decent stuff away i wonder?

They are bloody heavy - i was sweating like Michael Jackson in a Kindergarten after shifting the Essential into the garage and the FL1012 into the utility - did it by myself ya see! Im gonna have to get a sack truck to move them i think, so i don't bang the machines about amongst other reasons.

You may also be able to help with the loudness of my pump Paul *thinks there's probably a rude joke somewhere in there but not sure* - how loud is your 1012 pump? Does your machine suffer the symptoms mine does?

Ive got my eye on an Ecologic on Ebay, and an Electra badged version of the Servis Quartz - im getting hooked - noooooo! ;-)


Thanks for the advice & comments guys,

Liam

Post# 371285 , Reply# 12   8/11/2009 at 16:18 (5,364 days old) by fl1012 ()        
Stop Press

 I forgot to add that the noisiness of the pump is once the water has all been drained from the drum, whilst the pump is actually pumping water, it's as quiet as any other machine ive used.

Post# 371292 , Reply# 13   8/11/2009 at 16:50 (5,364 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Liam.

yep - we were quite pleased with the way it brushed up. apart from a dent on the front at the bottom, which runs from the bottom left hand corner of the filter door to the base of the machine in the middle, its in fine visual condition.

The odd rust spot that there was just rubbed away, with work.

Inside, if i remember rightly, its rustless.

Now to the issue! It has a hole in the outer drum. I never saw the hole, as rob did the temporary repair to it, but either something came out from the inside and wrote it off OR, rather more distressingly, it was holed from the outside in, on purpose, specifically to write it off.

the hole has been resealed, but will obviously require checking each time it is used with water.

Other than that issue it performs very well indeed. Its very quiet with, as Tom mentioned, it having an induction motor.

Now I cant tell you how loud the pump is/was, as i havent heard it for must be getting on for a year now. All i can say is that, when it was running, it never made me say to myself 'oooh, the machine has a loud pump'. All i can assume is that it was of a realistic noise level.
We never got vids of the machine unfortunately, as it was pre a decent digital camera so, back then we didnt really bother with making vids.

real sorry that i cant offer any more help with it. Tom is the zanussi man and i bow to his expertese.

all i can suggest is, if possible, make a vid and post it on youtube.

NOW - why did you have to go and mention electra on ebay. I went and checked and found it and the blasted thing is about 20minute drive from me.
All I can say to you is 'go for it!'. It looks lovely. Not as stylish as the servis branded machines, but still smart.
Would the ecologic you mention be the AC152 ecologic 1250? I had never seen this version before - quite why they were AC numbered, I dont know. Perhaps they were last of the run of the old machines, so had to conform to the new numbering system.

Real words of warning to you now - the bug will hit you hard and, before you know it, you will have 5 machines. then 10. then 20, then...... then...... Its incredible how they just keep coming. Its a really great hobby - i just hope you have a BIG garage.lol.

Paul
p.s below is a picy of the WD1012, literally about 5 minutes after it was gently unloaded into robs backyard.

p.p.s do invest in decent a sack truck - they are a really useful tools in our rarified line of hobby. Just be careful of thresholds - they are a menace!

Post# 371294 , Reply# 14   8/11/2009 at 16:51 (5,364 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
powder drawer area...

 before:

Post# 371295 , Reply# 15   8/11/2009 at 16:51 (5,364 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
powder drawer area...

after:

Post# 371299 , Reply# 16   8/11/2009 at 17:19 (5,364 days old) by fl1012 ()        

That's a great shame if someone did punch a hole in the outer drum on purpose. Is it a plastic or metal tub on these machines? Ive not had the lid off mine yet! It's certainly scrubbed up well though - that little bit of rust under the powder draw seems to occur on all of them - mine is just the same.

No worries about the pump, something for you to listen for when you get her plumbed in in future!

About Ebay....

Yeah i ignored a Servis Quartz on Ebay a month or so ago as i didnt realise their significance, then when reading about the demise of Servis, i saw that it was the first microchip controlled machine available in the UK, so i was abit gutted as it was only 30 miles from me. Then when i saw the Electra my eyes lit up. Don't let me stop you bidding though Paul, i should really only get one of the two (The Ecologic or the Electra) as i'm living at home at the minute and can't take the p*ss too much!

The Ecologic is the AC152 yup. I don't know as much about Hoovers as i do Zanussis but i know theyre a solid machine and a good one to look after. It looks like it might get pricey though, as it's up to £30 the last time i checked.

Do you use msn by the way? Ive added you incase you do, i think we cud chat for hours lol

Liam

Post# 371304 , Reply# 17   8/11/2009 at 17:44 (5,364 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey liam,
No point goin over old ground as everyone has given you great advice, as the owner of a WDT1061/a i can vouce for tom in that the suspension does make a little squeeky noise when spinning more so when out of balance! Not a problem though!

Darren

Post# 371307 , Reply# 18   8/11/2009 at 18:01 (5,364 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Hey Darren

Yeh im happy that it's just a characteristic of the machine now everyone has told me lol. I think it was just coz of this tapping noise that i thought 'oh Christ, whats up with it'.

I like your WDT - there's a dark grey Turbodry similar to that on Ebay at the moment. I thought about it, but with limited space it's too similar to the FL1012 so i think i'll hang out for something like a Washcraft or original Jetsystem. Ive got my eye on an Electra & Hoover Ecologic anyway so i best calm down!

You have a couple of Zanussis then?

Liam

Post# 371525 , Reply# 19   8/12/2009 at 13:11 (5,363 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey liam!
Yea i love my zanussi's!!! :-) I'm not happy with 3! lol. I've got the wdt1061/a, the fj1033 & the zwf12070G1!! I want a mid ninties jetsystem, i've wanted a zanussi IZ for a while too i like all the unusual models like the Directa's & inputs!! Aswell as just about every 80s zanussi :-) I've been holding out for an opaque doored electrolux for ages!!!

Darren

Post# 371577 , Reply# 20   8/12/2009 at 15:35 (5,363 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Take the 'pi$$' Liam, take the 'pi$$'.....

 Hi Liam.

The outer drum on the WD1012 is metal and i see what you mean about the small rust spot, under the powder drawer, being a regular thing with this bodystyle of Zanny. Even Darren's WDT has one too! Bit of an issue with them then.

Back to ebay ...... go for both of them! They are both great looking machines, although i agree that the cost could head higher with that Ecologic.
Seems strange that Joe and Jemima Public appear to quite like 1980s and early 1990s machines at the moment.

The Ecologic is in great looking condition and the facia has maintained its whiteness too, which is surprising, as they usually yellow terribly.

The electra is lovely too, sporting that smart grey-ee blue facia colouring of the late 80s and early 90s. Its a lovely scheme and me and rob are on the lookout for a matching electra/Creda pair, in this colour scheme.

Whichever one you go for, or indeed if you go for both, fingers crossed for your success!

let us know how it goes.
paul

Post# 371596 , Reply# 21   8/12/2009 at 19:12 (5,363 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Darren....

I'm rather jealous of you having an 80s Jetsystem, Gail Platt stylie. I saw one the other week online & it only went for about £48, shouldve grabbed it while i had the chance. I had a 90s Jetsystem Excel (Turbodry) in a flat i rented & it never seemed to do anything exciting so i thought this 80s Jetsystem mightve been similar, so never bothered to buy it. Then i saw the videos of yours in action & realised what id just walked away from :(

Ive just the two Zanussis at the moment, my FL1012 & Mums Essential ZWF14170W, which is similar to your cool looking Graphite one, tho seems to use less water, which im not happy about (i watched ur videos)!

The Zanussis id like to get are a Washcraft like Paul & Robs, a Jetsystem like yours (to go with the FL1012), one of the first Jetsystem RSI machines, a Jetsystem which looked like the IZI but without the tilted drum (tho im not fussed) & i'll try & hang onto Mums Essential when it dies. Not so fussed about the Jetsystem Excel or subsesquent yellow buttoned machines as they seem to lack the character of the other versions i feel.

Id also like a couple of Hoovers including the New Wave with its wicked fill flume & an old Energy Control Series machine. Also fancy a Whirlpool AquaLine & a Servis Quartz, plus an 80s Hotpoint like the 95450 (the washer my Mum bought when i was born & that i spent hours sat on the floor in front of). I can see from watching your videos that you own alot of the machines id like - my God id be grinning like a dog with two di*ks in your garage ;-)

Liam :)

Post# 371598 , Reply# 22   8/12/2009 at 19:20 (5,363 days old) by fl1012 ()        
Not forgetting....

 ....Paul.... ;-)

Ooh, i wonder if my FL has a metal tub too then. I dare not guess as yours has an induction motor and mine a brush one!

It's really weird having the rust spot as mine doesn't leak there at all and ive not heard anyone else mention leaking issues from this area either.

I really wish i could take the p*ss and get both lol, but somehow i think im close to being evicted already (lost my job in April & havn't got a new one yet) so i best not push it, annoyingly. Im really undecided on which to get. I dunno whether to forget the Electra and wait for a proper Quartz example, or whether to forget the Ecologic in the hope a few more are still lurking in peoples kitchens. Hmmmmmm!

Any help regarding a choice from anyone would be VERY welcome as im really undecided.

Thanks,
Liam. :)

Post# 371601 , Reply# 23   8/12/2009 at 19:35 (5,362 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        
Gail's Jetsystem

 Hi Liam,
Gail Platt's Jetsystem is early 90s, this is an 80s Jetsystem owned by myself and the one that matches your FL1012.

Tom.

Post# 371603 , Reply# 24   8/12/2009 at 19:39 (5,362 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

By the way, your FL1012 does have the metal tub, as do any with the old style drum.

Post# 371662 , Reply# 25   8/12/2009 at 23:20 (5,362 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Wicked, thanks Tom :)

Your Jetsystem looks immaculate - not even the tiny patch of rust under the powder draw like several models of this era seem to have!

Ive done some videos of my FL1012 so ive just gotta try & locate my USB cable for my mobile & i'll have them online.

Sadly i think the FL will be going back in the garage over the weekend, sooner than planned. Was running it on a hot wash tonight and when it drained after the wash and the first rinse, the pump made that same noise again, but it continued to do so for around 15 seconds each time, whereas the first time it did it, it was only for around 2-3 seconds. I think the pump must either have something stuck in it or (more likely since ive lost no socks etc) is needing replacement. Ive caught the noise on camera as i was already filming so all will become more apparant when i upload the videos.

Bit sad that the lil fella is feeling ill, i hoped i could leave him plumbed in for a few weeks, but i don't wanna cause any more damage just for the sake of me being able to watch it do the washing.

On a happier note, it might give me a better excuse to buy another machine off Ebay to put in the parents garage, wohooo :)

Liam

Post# 373265 , Reply# 26   8/19/2009 at 17:32 (5,356 days old) by fl1012 ()        
FL1012 Videos.....

are now on YouTube. I know some of you have already subscribed to the videos which is great, but for those of you that wanted to have a look, here is one of the videos - the others should be easily located from here.





This video shows the grinding noise at its most clearest. Any suggestions to the cause of this noise are most welcome as im quite worried about the ole chap.

Cheers,
Liam.

Post# 373570 , Reply# 27   8/21/2009 at 08:41 (5,354 days old) by fl1012 ()        

After taking the back off the machine and reaching the conclusion that the noise appears to be from the motor rather than the drum, i've phoned a local engineer & he's coming to look at the machine next Tuesday afternoon. £59 callout, though this also allows as long as it takes to repair, excluding parts obviously. Any thoughts?

He wasn't phased by the age of it at all, he said he would be keen to keep it running aswell, as some of the new machines are 'pretty awful', so fingers crossed.

In the meantime, the Essential is back in situe! Ive done a video of this & will be uploading it to YouTube later, should people wish to see.

Liam.

Post# 373960 , Reply# 28   8/23/2009 at 04:10 (5,352 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Advice anyone? Im feeling rather ignored!

Post# 373962 , Reply# 29   8/23/2009 at 04:41 (5,352 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Hi Liam,

Yes I have some advice, get it repaired! You might need to run a load through a rinse or something so the engineer can hear the noise. Are you going to get the pump changed as well?

The callout fee is fairly standard these days, with the price of fuel etc.

Tom.

Post# 373965 , Reply# 30   8/23/2009 at 05:37 (5,352 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hi liam!
I'm glad your going to get it looked at and not give up on it!! I'm sure it's something simple.

I'd like to see that essential model video too:D

Your videos you've uploaded so far are great. Make me want to strike up the WDT1061/A :D Its been ignored since i got the ZWF12070G1!

Darren

Post# 373996 , Reply# 31   8/23/2009 at 11:02 (5,352 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Cheers guys :)

I definately don't wanna just give up on it, it's so clean & tidy. The powder draw has no limescale or mold whatsoever, the original door seal is unmarked, and it runs so well with the exception of the recent strange noises that it'd just be a waste to let it go to ruin.

Tom - If the engineer finds the cause of the grinding noise & it looks reasonable to repair, then i will ask about the pump aswell. It all depends on how severe the suspected motor noise is really, with motors being expensive for it etc.

Darren - That's reminded me about the Essential video, will get that uploaded now. I definately prefer watching the FL1012 though - the Essential never seems to get going, it's all very lethargic, like its cycle times! kinda wish we'd got the Jetsystem version - more to watch!

So does everyone think £59 is about right for a callout fee for the engineer? I really havn't any idea about how much these things cost as weve not needed an engineer visit for years - all Electrolux Group products in our house ya see ;-)

Cheers,
Liam

Post# 374039 , Reply# 32   8/23/2009 at 14:19 (5,352 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Liam.

Just been and watched some of your vids.
The machine looks wonderful - in great condition.

They really were a smart looking series of machines and good that, from the first series of washcraft replacement machines, there is a representative of the core types in safe hands - you have an FL, Tom has a Jetsystem, me and rob have a WD and Saj has the computawash.

Paul

Post# 374061 , Reply# 33   8/23/2009 at 15:04 (5,352 days old) by fl1012 ()        

Paul...how are ya? :-)

Thanks for the kind comments, i'm really proud of my little FL - i guess it's now abit more apparant why i've been abit anxious about it feeling ill.

It looks like it was very well cared for in its original home in Berkshire - the couple i bought it from wheeled it out to my Dads van, on a sack truck, wrapped in carpet, with the original manual. They said it was 'rather industrious' trying to move it, as it'd never been out in all the years they'd owned it, which has probably helped prevent scratched & marks to the casing.

Ive also been very careful to pack sheets around the door seal when transporting it from my parents house in Oxfordshire to where i was living in Manchester (and back again), so that the drum didn't move too much during the drive.

Ive not had to do anything much to it, just given it a good wipe over with warm water and kept the filter & powder draw cleaned out at all times, plus cleaned round the door seal to remove any build up, tho there is never anything there, probably owing to decent water useage and selection of longer hotter washes.

Tom kindly let me know the other night that it was made during the 25th week of 1988, so it's just had its 21st Birthday :-))

Would be great to know when the Jetsystem, WD1012 & Computawash were all made too, they all look so good. When are you giving the WD the run in the kitchen that it deserves? ;-P

Liam

Post# 374125 , Reply# 34   8/23/2009 at 17:06 (5,352 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Ooooh thought i'd share this with ya liam! :-) I live on a newish housing estate made in the last 5years and the people on the corner from us leave there door open occasionally and they have the exact same machine as you sat next to the back door! With a modern fridge freezer next to it lol!! And 4 of them live there! And the farmer down the road who also leaves there door open...yes i'm nosey lol have a washcraft zanussi and 2 massive boxes of ariel on top of it :-)

ps liam i would've loved to have gotten the jetsystem model too but funds and all. Shame they don't do several models of the jetsystem like they used 2 instead of just one. I just used to hate how the jet always throws suds from the last rinse onto the next rinse! Aggh! drives me mad when mums AEG does that!!!!

Darren

Post# 374153 , Reply# 35   8/23/2009 at 18:16 (5,352 days old) by fl1012 ()        

I love new housing estates, many people hate them but i love the roads that weave and wind around for no reason, and the little block paved areas etc!

Thats impressive that your neighbours FL is still serving all 4 of them, and even more so that the farmers Washcraft is STILL going - mind you, he may not wash that often, that might be the reason for that ones survival, lol

You gonna let them know youre interested when theyre getting rid of them?!

I thought Zanussi had dropped alot of the Jetsystems, had a look in Currys and thought i only saw the one, an 8kg version with a large LCD screen, similar to the Electrolux Insight. That'll also answer why some Essential models have gained an LCD screen that they did without before.

That does seem abit silly that the Jetsystem sprays abit of foam onto the clothes instead of rinsing through some fresh water during the spin/drain phase. They must do a better job than the Essentials tho - Mums Essential finished the other day and was still full of foam. I couldn't believe how much was left. That is my main gripe with Zanussis from the late 90s onwards, they don't use enough water, especially for rinse cycles.

Liam

Post# 374611 , Reply# 36   8/25/2009 at 12:03 (5,350 days old) by fl1012 ()        
Wohooo it's fixed :-))

 Just had the engineer visit to look at the machine. From the noise he couldnt tell if it was the belt or the motor, we listenned to it at various stages of the cycle - wash, distribute & spin & then he said he might aswell try a new belt, even though we both agreed the old belt looked fine.

Much to our amazement the old belt looked alot bigger than the new one, to the point he wondered if it was the right replacement belt. Anyway, it went on and we tried the machine, and the noise had all but gone, so it looks like it just wanted a new belt.

Bonus was, he'd originally said itd be £59 for callout, then any parts on top, but he only charged £40 & gave me the belt for nothing, so i was well pleased.

If anyone's in the South Midlands area & wants his details, i'll let you know. Didn't wanna post them on here straight away as i'm not sure if its allowed.

But anyway, me a very happy bunny :-)

Liam

Post# 374619 , Reply# 37   8/25/2009 at 12:38 (5,350 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

How do Liam.

Yep - its really useful being able to date Zanny's - cheers Tom!

Me and Rob were sorting out the storage unit on saturday and unfortunately the Zanny wont be out and plugged in any time soon.
It really does weigh and absolute ton and is a menace to move about the place. also dont really like moving machines on their sides, even though its an accepted evil.

The WD1012 is sat underneath the Bendix 7448 autodrier - roll on the lottery win!

Great news on your FL repair. Useful to know too for the rest of us, that squeeking noisey could be just for the want of a new tighter belt.
Great that you also got it for a reduced tarif too.

in anticipation of quietr vids! lol.
enjoy your machine.
Paul

Post# 374623 , Reply# 38   8/25/2009 at 12:49 (5,350 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Great news Liam

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The FL1012 is a fantastic machine, I had one for years, was then given to my sister. Unfortunately the spokes on the wheel at the back of the drum cracked, my sister ended up getting a new machine as she had a baby on the way. Hope yours gives you many more years of use.

Post# 374650 , Reply# 39   8/25/2009 at 13:35 (5,350 days old) by fl1012 ()        
Paul and Paul.....

 Yup i'm REALLY pleased its been fixed, and like i said to the engineer, even with the repair, its only cost me £55 in two years, including purchase. I couldve spent £200 on an Indesit, Beko etc (all i could afford 2 years ago) and they couldve been in the tip by now, so it's great value for money too.

Paulc - how old was your FL1012 when it got scrapped? Mines just turned 21.

And as for the WD1012 Paul - i think you need to flex those muscles & get it moved & in the house ;-)

I'll do you some quieter videos when youve moved the WD :P

Liam.x

Post# 374655 , Reply# 40   8/25/2009 at 13:59 (5,350 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Honestly mate, you will be waiting a long time to post the vids.

As you have mentioned, in another thread, the problem many of us have is the need for space. Indeed the only reason me and rob can own all the bits and bobs we have is cause we are together - which kick started the shared purchasing and shared storage costs.

Unless we are rolling in cash, or live in a big house, or have both, storing and maintaining a big machine collection is a nightmare.

I really would recommend, so long as you find a person/people you can get alongwith, considering sharing the costs and grouping together to buy space. There would be a lot of give and take along the way. Obviously not ideal, but the only way for many of us (me included).

Anyway - I have digressed.

What I am going round the houses about saying is that we have had to build the machine into the storage space we have, which makes it difficult to extracate easily.

I WANT TO WIN THE LOTTERY!!!!

If Jim fixed it (I will have to write a letter) for me to win the lottery, I would open a museum where the old WD1012 would be semi permanently plumbed in, with its own floorspace, and no one would have to injure themselves to move it. lol.

God, it really weighs a lot. I laugh typing it as I remember getting it into my car the first time we moved it - exhausted afterwards.

Paul

Post# 374658 , Reply# 41   8/25/2009 at 14:08 (5,350 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Liam

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I have no idea how old it was I am afraid, I got it second hand in 1993 and my sister replaced it in 1998. In the time I had it it was on constantly as me and my sister had various friends staying with us on almost a permanent basis and I did all their washing. It was one of the best machines I've owned.....and I've had quite a few!!!

Post# 374958 , Reply# 42   8/26/2009 at 17:38 (5,349 days old) by fl1012 ()        

I would consider sharing a storage space definately. I already have stuff in secure storage but it's almost like a shed sized box in a warehouse, so id consider renting a garage instead and putting all my stuff in there, plus using the space for a few appliances. Doesn't seem to be any other guys round this area that use the forum tho, so i dunno if that will work at present, annoyingly.

My FL is heavy enough, so id imagine your WD with its dryer components and induction motor needs a reinforced floor!

Paulc - they really are characterful little machines. That's why i was so keen to get mine repaired. It will probably need a new pump soon as that sounds awful (the noise it sometimes makes is on my youtube vids) but they look pretty cheap at about £20, and now i know the other noise was just the belt and not the motor, id be happy to spend abit on a new pump!

Liam


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