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Post# 376398   9/2/2009 at 14:08 (5,347 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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After almost two years of shopping and comparing I finally ordered my new Front Load Washer and Dryer last night.

What did I buy you ask? Look at my screen name--I ordered the Maytag Performance Series MHWE500VW washer and MED500VW Dryer.

This was not an easy purchase as I was teetering towards the E-Lux, but my checkbook kept kicking me and I just couldn't turn lose of the money.

I may kick myself for buying a May-pool, but. I had decided to just wait until tax time when I had a little more money in the bank, I would just pray my old machine would keep plugging away. I figured that since I had the money in the bank, and things always happen when you are the most broke, that using this logic my old machine would never break down.

Then in Sunday's paper I saw the add where one of the local Maytag dealers (in fact the oldest Maytag dealer in town) would give you the matching dryer when you purchase the washer, a savings of $1,499.99. I went to look and wrote the check. I bought the pedistals as I decided when I say my prayers I didn't want to be in front of a basket of wet laundry. So I paid the $249.99 each for the pedistals. If this was a gimick, it was a good one, because I have been pricing and shopping and the price I paid for the washer is what is posted as the MSRP on the Maytag website, and compairable to Sear's, Lowe's, Lytton's and Ultimate Electronics.

They should be in next Wednesday, then we will make arrangements for delivery. I already gave my old pair to my Niece, so they will stay in the family until their ultimate death occurs.






Post# 376403 , Reply# 1   9/2/2009 at 15:02 (5,347 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

When a $2,800.00 set loses 90% of its value six months after installation, then perhaps the price should be half of the original markup. I cannot for the life of me, justify $3,000.00 for a set of Chinese-made goods. Especially when I am able to get a modern machine off the curb for next to nothing that would have been sent to the crusher anyway. I would keep the old top loader as a backup should something go wrong after the warranty runs out. Here's to wishing you the best!

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 376414 , Reply# 2   9/2/2009 at 17:30 (5,347 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        
Congratulations!

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I hope you really love your new Maytag pair. I have the KitchenAid Ensemble pair, the very models that were later rebadged as Maytag Epic. They've been going for three years without a single issue. The washer outcleans every TL machine I've used, including the Amana I had that was very similar to the current Speed Queen TL'ers. Take that, TL crowd! :)

Post# 376419 , Reply# 3   9/2/2009 at 18:04 (5,347 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Congrats!

May they be everything you expect and more! It does take ttime to get used to doing laundry "without" water!


Post# 376421 , Reply# 4   9/2/2009 at 18:06 (5,347 days old) by jeffg ()        

David, how long are the cycle times on your KA?

Post# 376425 , Reply# 5   9/2/2009 at 18:18 (5,347 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        
Jeff-

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Hey there. Cycle times aren't bad. The Normal/Casual cycle runs in about 40 minutes when set to medium soil. Adding a third rinse extends the time to about 49 minutes. Whitest Whites runs about one hour, which includes the default third rinse that can be eliminated if desired. The heater is used on the Whitest Whites, Heavy Duty, and Sanitary cycles, so they take longer than the cycles which do not use the heater. A small load on Rapid Wash can take as little as 35 minutes.

Post# 376430 , Reply# 6   9/2/2009 at 18:54 (5,347 days old) by appnut (TX)        
I cannot for the life of me, justify $3,000.00 for a set of

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Well Mr. Norfolk, FYI these are NOT Chineese made the last time I checked into Whirlpool. These are made in Germany at the Baukenacht (pardon the spelling Euro friends).

Post# 376431 , Reply# 7   9/2/2009 at 18:57 (5,347 days old) by appnut (TX)        
IHEARTMAYTAG!!

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Congratulations. Sometimes delayed execution sce3narios are the best (I keep telling myself that regarding a husbear). I know you'll be very pleased with them. I have forgotten what your old washer was.

Post# 376432 , Reply# 8   9/2/2009 at 18:58 (5,347 days old) by appnut (TX)        
The washer outcleans every TL machine I've used

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David, well said. Even my humble first-generation Fridgemore outcleans my 1986 Lady Kenmore Shredmore--especially my whites. and my clothes are lasting longer too!!

Post# 376438 , Reply# 9   9/2/2009 at 19:14 (5,347 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

"Well Mr. Norfolk, FYI these are NOT Chineese made the last time I checked into Whirlpool. These are made in Germany at the Baukenacht (pardon the spelling Euro friends)."

That's good to know. On a more serious note, I did venture off to Lowes to look at one of their Maytag Epics. They are priced slightly less than a Cabrio, and the colors do look tempting. I apologize if my first post sounded a little too harsh. Unfortunately I can't edit it.

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 376447 , Reply# 10   9/2/2009 at 19:55 (5,347 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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It's ok. And thanks. Personally, I still prefer a front loader over an HE top loader, just seems more "natural" in comparing the two ways of executing HE washing. Everything kinda pnackaed on a Cabrio type of machine.

Post# 376453 , Reply# 11   9/2/2009 at 20:30 (5,347 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I was at my local Frigidaire/Maytag dealership a couple of days ago about a recall notice for my range, and the Performance Series 900(0) was there on pedestals. They are gorgeous machines, and it took all my willpower not to say "How soon can you install them!?"

I am trying to pay down debt, and have made using charge cards strictly verboten. In the meantime, I will be saving my dimes and nickels for the set.

Congratulations---I bet you'll love 'em. Be sure to post pictures and give us a thorough review!


Post# 376461 , Reply# 12   9/2/2009 at 21:19 (5,347 days old) by norfolksouthern ()        

Appnut: I can't agree with you more concerning the Cabrio, and other HE top loaders. My main concern with them would be rollover, given the small amount of water used. At least there would be a better chance of adequate coverage with a front loader.

What I especially don't' like about the Cabrio is the weird action, which just seems to turn my stomach somehow. It seems like GE is headed this direction with all their top loaders, except for the very bottom of the line model which still has an agitator. I am wondering which direction Whirlpool is taking on this, as I saw only ONE Cabrio at Lowes, yet plenty of the GE "clones".

NorfolkSouthern


Post# 376530 , Reply# 13   9/3/2009 at 06:53 (5,346 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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These are not Chinese made. These are not the Epics, they are the Performance series, supposed to be commercial construction. It appears that Whirlpool is trying to position Maytag back in the quality and reliability arena.

My old set are Maytag Dependable Care Plus machines. I have been most happy with my Maytags, but the repair man (who didn't seem that lonley by the way) told me after the last expensive repair that it was on it's last leg. Exact words were "It may last another year, maybe three; but you won't get another 15 out of it." It's been two years with no problems, but I wanted to be able to do the shopping and look for bargans before the "time of need" came along.

I really didn't need a new dryer, but since the new one was free I will have a matching set still. I will try to post pics once they arrive. The old set is not going to the crusher, my niece will have them until the ultimate demise.


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Post# 376709 , Reply# 14   9/3/2009 at 21:24 (5,346 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Let me help you out with some pics...

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BTW, that was a FANTASTIC DEAL! Good job!

The pair we have on our floor...


Post# 376710 , Reply# 15   9/3/2009 at 21:26 (5,346 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Doors open... The washer door is NOT reversable...

Post# 376713 , Reply# 16   9/3/2009 at 21:30 (5,346 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The washer console: MHWE500VW

Post# 376715 , Reply# 17   9/3/2009 at 21:32 (5,346 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Did you get the matching dryer or did you get a more conventional model?

Anyway, here's the set matcher dryer: ME/GDE500VW


Post# 376718 , Reply# 18   9/3/2009 at 21:33 (5,346 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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We've sold quite a few and I haven't had to really work on any, so that's a good thing! Congrats!

RCD


Post# 376729 , Reply# 19   9/3/2009 at 21:53 (5,346 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Andrwe you're cruel--those pictures may just push Eugene over the edge. He'll show up at his local dealers and ready to buy!!!

Post# 376746 , Reply# 20   9/3/2009 at 22:36 (5,346 days old) by toploader1984 ()        

tisk tisk tisk, should of bought the speed queen (sigh) my aunt has the duet, same machine basically, also a friend has the duet, both have had nothing but trouble, my friend kevin actually sold his after a year cuz he couldnt stand the machine anymore. i really do hope u have good luck with yours. it really ticks me off that whirlpool is slapping the maytag name on all thier products! its not a REAL maytag! just like the shredmore, all the versions including whirlpool, kenmore, kitchen aid, crosley, estate, roper, amana, maytag, ahh yes and even some have the GE name on them. its like a monopoly almost. some of the duets are made in germany and some are made in mexico, i LOVE that speed queen makes ALL of their washers and dryers in ripon wisconsin!!!! as far as i am concerned the top loader speed queen is the BEST machine on the market!

Post# 376767 , Reply# 21   9/4/2009 at 02:08 (5,346 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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Save the receipt! Don't be afraid to take them back if you do not like them. I had the Kenmore (HEt3)version of these in 2004 with the matching dryer. Hated them both! The washer "looked" neat but just did not have enough water for my taste. The clothes were wet but no standing water in the machine. The washer shook the entire house on high speed spin (yes,level). Needs a cement floor. The dryer took too long to dry. I did not like it's cool down feature. The lint filter was also a pain to get in and out. I use my friends Whirlpool Duet washer and dryer in Ukiah and have the same complaints. Pretty much the same machine. I ended up taking mine back to sears 6 months later because I just did not like them. I got Maytag Neptunes (they dont make these any more) and am much much happier. You may want to have a plan "B" in mind.
Jim


Post# 376804 , Reply# 22   9/4/2009 at 08:16 (5,345 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
Drew

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Those are the ones. I did order the matching dryer. I really wanted the Hunger green, but was too cheep to let go of another $200 for the color. The Crimson Red was in the 3000 series.

Spankomatic:
I hope I don't regret it either. It took me a long time to make a decision. Maybe Drew can help us on this one too, but two places I visited said the Maytag versions are built with "Commercial" quality parts and that it was endurance tested for a lifecycle of 22 years. This could be hype. I looked at Speed Queen. They only have a 3.2cu ft drum. A set water fill regardless of the size of load. No on board heater, No steam function. And a price twice what I paid for the Maytag pair.


Post# 376806 , Reply# 23   9/4/2009 at 09:27 (5,345 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
I might add

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I am hoping for less problems with vibration due to the fact that they will be in the basement on a concrete floor.

If I hate them within the first 30 days, they will take them back for a 20% restock fee due to this being a special purchase. I would also have to give back the rebate. I did buy from a local and not a big box, don't I get points for that?




Post# 376811 , Reply# 24   9/4/2009 at 10:17 (5,345 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

Ding Ding Ding Ding!

20 extra points.

:-)


Post# 376851 , Reply# 25   9/4/2009 at 15:52 (5,345 days old) by maytagmightyjj ()        

I had a Whirlpool Duet I bought in 2004 and it sat on a concrete floor and I had no problems with excessive vibration. You should be fine there. I gave the Duet to a friend last year and he has had no problems with it, so its going on six years old with no issues. I gave it away because it would not fit in the closet where I live now. I had a "Real" Maytag Dependable Care I bought in 1996, which I gave to a neighbor when I bought the Duet-- it's still going strong with no problems-- wish I stil had it, but I would hate to ask for it back.

I too wish that "real" Maytag machines could be made again. However, those days are over. I don't understand people's frusration with Whirlpool when it comes to Maytag-- Whirlpool's products are a lot better than the crap Maytag was manufacturing from about 1998 on-- It's Maytag's fault they are gone, not Whirlpools-- and they paid for the Maytag name and all the rights that go along with it. Actually it was a smart business move since a lot of consumers don't have a clue its not the Maytag of years ago. They'll buy based on the name.

I called Whirlpool and asked them if their Maytag machines were built with better parts than their Whirlpool counterparts-- I never could get a straight answer from them, but they are marketing maytag saying it has "commercial grade parts" - perhaps an appliance expert here could tell us if they are indeed stronger than whirpools. I bought a Maytag Centennial top loader last year and have been pleased with it. I just wish whirlpool had made it like the kitchenaid line they dropped that that the larger agitator fins and a bit slower agitation.

I hope you like your new machines and that they will last a long time. After having a front loader, I just don't think the high price is justified-- mine got my clothes clean, but I could not tell they were any cleaner than with a top loader- but that's my personal preference.


Post# 376860 , Reply# 26   9/4/2009 at 16:19 (5,345 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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Iheartmaytag, To clarify... My complaints about the Kenmore/Whirlpool Duet were NOT that they broke down. Sara still has her 2000 Duet in Ukiah and has been trouble free. My complaint is MY preferences about the machines. Lack of water,pull out degergent drawer,shaking house when spinning,dryer lint filter,cool down cycle,long drying times,damp clothes at end of dryer cycle. When I traded them in for the Maytag Neptunes all my issues were resolved. I did loose the window :) Sears was great about taking them back. After 6 months of use they gave me a full refund and exchanged the extended warranty. I actually got money back! Sounds like you will not have the shaking house issue since the washer will be put on a cement floor. The others you will decide for yourself if you like or do not like. If they turn out not to be your "dream machines" take them back while you can.
Jim


Post# 376910 , Reply# 27   9/4/2009 at 19:43 (5,345 days old) by steve1-18 (Grovetown (Augusta), GA)        
Maytag Coin op washers

I thought Maytag was still making the coin-op Neptune but just went to the commercial site and it is no more.


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Post# 376915 , Reply# 28   9/4/2009 at 20:01 (5,345 days old) by favorit ()        
BAUKNECHT

Hi Bob, for your sake you live in TX. If you were in CA Herr Govern(at)or would give you a fine for bad German *LOL*

Anyway Bauknecht is not the best (maybe is the worst) example of german, dependable technology .....


Post# 378090 , Reply# 29   9/11/2009 at 09:43 (5,338 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
Delays

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They were suposed to be in on Wednesday, but because of the holiday things were delayed so they are expected in this morning. However, the delivery guys are booked until Tuesday. Dad-burn, I was hoping to have them for this weekend when I do all the bedding. I guess I could save the bedding--like yuck.


Post# 378268 , Reply# 30   9/12/2009 at 09:33 (5,337 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        

I am actually really looking forward to your receipt of the machines and some great pics!

All the best!


Post# 379415 , Reply# 31   9/16/2009 at 09:24 (5,333 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
They have arrived

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The washer in itself weighed a ton. It took the two guys almost 2 1/2 hours to remove the old units, and bring these down and set them up.

Here is the maiden voyage for the washer a load of King sized sheets, 4 pillow cases, two bath towels. It still appeared to be somewhat underloaded. Sorry too much reflection on the door to see the action inside.




Post# 379416 , Reply# 32   9/16/2009 at 09:26 (5,333 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
The dryer

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Dryer hadn't been used at this point

Post# 379417 , Reply# 33   9/16/2009 at 09:28 (5,333 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
The twins on their pedistals

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I was amazed at how well the washer did with just a thimble full of water. The dryer took about 20 minutes to dry the full load of bedding.



Post# 379418 , Reply# 34   9/16/2009 at 09:30 (5,333 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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The washer did use quite a bit less water than the old TL. I was able to gage this because they are in the basement, and we have an ejection pump that handles the bathroom and laundry downstairs. In a normal load with the TL machine the pump cycled six times for a load. It only cycled twice with the FL machine.

Sorry about the picture quality, I had to use the camera phone.


Post# 379498 , Reply# 35   9/16/2009 at 16:06 (5,333 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
YAY!

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They sure do look nice. Congrats!

RCD


Post# 379526 , Reply# 36   9/16/2009 at 19:52 (5,333 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Man, that is one sharp-looking washer/dryer pair. I think Maytags have great styling. My next front-loading pair will definitely be on pedestals, even though it'll mean giving up the generous folding area I have on top of my current machines. Not having to stoop to remove laundry from the washer will make it well worth the trade.

I have friends with LG and Frigidaire Affinity machines and am amazed at how little water they use----with no complaints about cleaning ability from either party.

Congrats, and many trouble-free loads to you! Let us know what you think of the steam option. My friends with the LG washer said it really knocks out the stains.


Post# 379644 , Reply# 37   9/17/2009 at 10:57 (5,332 days old) by kenmore81 ()        
Congrats!

That is a nice pair.They do look great on thier pedestals to, I wish I went with the pedestal for my washer I have 2 herniated disks and it sucks bending down to get that las sock.
I must ask does you washer have a warm rinse option?
I know some of the Whirl/tags only have cold, not that I use it much but I do a warm rinse sometimes.
Ken


Post# 379687 , Reply# 38   9/17/2009 at 13:27 (5,332 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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Ken,
No it doesn't have a warm rinse option. I never used warm rinse anyway so it wasn't a deal breaker. On the wash side of the butons, it does have the ATC and you can't lie to it by turning off the cold, but if you want truely HOT, it has a sanatize temp that is boosted to 157 degrees, and the steam function which I haven't used yet.

I do want to give a word of warning. When the lying sales person tells you the Performance Series sits on the same foot print as your regular TL Washer and conventional dryer, they are wrong. They are about three inches wider and with the bubble front about two inches deeper. It didn't have that much effect on me since they are in the basement, but it could have been disasterous due to the concrete pad they sit on just barely. If someone has limited space I caution you to measure before you buy.





Post# 379758 , Reply# 39   9/17/2009 at 22:34 (5,332 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
You are oh so right about that!

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Try telling the housfrau who is just steaming undie hot over that set in red that they may not fit in that laundry closet with the bifold doors or in the pass thru laundry room inbetween the hallway and the garage without interfering with the doors opening. She will go selectively deaf UNTILL they try to install them. THEN, it's a scream fest about not warning her and how WE have to make them fit or lose her business. The W/P Cabrio/Maytag Bravos HE toploaders are just as deep and just as bad! If they'd figured out a way to side vent them like the old Maytag Dependable Care units, there might be SOME saving grace...

RCD


Post# 379818 , Reply# 40   9/18/2009 at 08:01 (5,331 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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The Performance Series dryer vents to the back, bottom and side. The back vent worked just fine.

Where we almost ran into problems is when my house was originally built in 1935 the basement was only a cellar. The wash area probably wasn't that much of an issue as they didn't have automatics, but the sewer pipe is about five feet above the basement floor. Then in the 70's they dug out the cellar and finished it to make it a basement, but the sewer is still above the floor, so they built a concrete pad about six inches above floor level so the washer drain would reach the sewer pipe. When they added a bathroom they added the ejection pump that pumps everything to the sewer and the pad was kept as a nice level place for the washer and dryer to sit. It is this pad that you can almost see in the pictures that the twins almost didn't fit on. The salesperson said that they wouldn't have any problems fitting on the same footprint. We measured etc. But they are kind of like buying a Christmas tree out in the open and then trying to get it in your house. They are a whole lot bigger when you get them in the space they belong. I like the added height. Start with a six inch base, then add the 15 inch pedistals then add the machines themselves and the controls are right at eye level. I just have to get on a step stool to dust the tops.


Post# 379820 , Reply# 41   9/18/2009 at 08:13 (5,331 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()        
Bigger is always better. HA!

~Try telling the housfrau who is just steaming undie hot over that set in red that they may not fit in that laundry closet with the bifold doors or in the pass thru laundry room inbetween the hallway and the garage without interfering with the doors opening. She will go selectively deaf UNTIL they try to install them. THEN, it's a scream-fest about not warning her, and how WE have to make them fit or lose her business.

When I worked for Sears P/T selling appliance, I got in a real arrogant know-it-all customer. He told me FLAT OUT that his space for the washer was 23.5 inches wide. He INSISTED ON A 24.0 inch wde machine.

So I printed a comment on the bottom of the receipt (right through the computer/terminal)"

"SPACE PER CUSTOMER IS 23.5 INCHES WIDE. PLEASE MEASURE BEFORE INSTALLING MACHINE"

The install dept/truckers called to personally thank me for that. They normally assume WE the sales-staff were the idiots just pushing product no matter how ridiuclous it was to do so.


Post# 379890 , Reply# 42   9/18/2009 at 15:35 (5,331 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Congrats on the new machines - I thought the Maytag versions of the 'pools were well featured and fairly priced. I've had my Duet pair for five years now and I've had no troubles.

RedCarpetDrew - is that Maytag carpet I see on the floor?? Love it!



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