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Post# 377406   9/7/2009 at 12:42 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi all.

As some of you will remember, a while back Gary (electron1100) received a dryer in for scrap which he took home for safety and preservation.

As with all of us, we never have enough room (indeed i am panicking a bit as just this evening I saw another machine, which I have agreed to purchase, but thats for another day soon!) and so, for Gary, something had to go.

He very kindly offered the machine out and, through the generosity of Gary and Mathew, for the last 4 or 5 months the machine has slowly been working its way up the country to myself and Rob.

Thanks to Mathew (keymatic3203) for bringing the machine upto Cardiff, during a marathon machine moving run that would have had me collapsing through nerves! The move involved the dryer in his car and two hoovermatics in a trailer behind!!
The drag made for a very slow journey for him - I am glad you kept it quiet till after the event Mathew. I'd have been sick with worry for you.

Machine(s) arrived in cardiff for storage and I clapped eyes on the dryer, for the first time, back in July. I would have got the machine out from under Mathews feet at that point, but finished up with a Hotpoint 95360 in the car instead.

The dryer stayed down in cardiff then, until Mike's do, a couple of weekends ago, when mathew brought the machine the rest of the way to Cheshire.

A bit of tlc and it looks great, although we will keep an eye out for a replacement lid, or get the old one resprayed.

Here she is, in all her elctricity board exclusive glory - the D6E06 dryer de luxe...





Post# 377407 , Reply# 1   9/7/2009 at 12:43 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

from a slightly different angle...

Post# 377410 , Reply# 2   9/7/2009 at 12:47 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and under a work surface (a little bit anyway) probably for the first time in its life.

I asked gary about it and he mentioned that all it really needed was a new fan belt, but that was all.

So, yet again, something that with a bit of money spent on it was cast out instead of being repaired...


Post# 377411 , Reply# 3   9/7/2009 at 12:49 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Here is something that doesnt happen that often....thank god

namely a picture with my ugly mug in it!

Anyways, heres me with the new charge and mathew stood behind the 3314L....


Post# 377412 , Reply# 4   9/7/2009 at 12:50 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Just go to get rid of that grey paint on the left hand part of the non-existent kick strip...

Post# 377413 , Reply# 5   9/7/2009 at 12:51 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and here is rob, with the machine, later that same evening...

Post# 377415 , Reply# 6   9/7/2009 at 12:53 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Meanwhile....

.... this lump was discreetly hidden under a duvet, in the porch!

Post# 377418 , Reply# 7   9/7/2009 at 12:57 (5,315 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Grey splodge

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Oh Paul don't worry just use the rubber stamp tool in photoshop..........It looks great! Im really pleased.......grey splodge or not.........now dont be shy about fots of yourself matey............we need a face to go with the name.........and there is nothing wrong with yours.....tis not gaydar yah know ;-)

Ah! one other thing i think i have a spare lid...........wheels and cogs turning slowly in my head

Right lovely fots again and thanks
Gary


Post# 377419 , Reply# 8   9/7/2009 at 12:58 (5,315 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Meanwhile

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IS IT IS IT IS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE......................

Post# 377420 , Reply# 9   9/7/2009 at 12:59 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

it went unnoticed all day saturday as well, which really surprised me, as you could hardly miss this hidden machine in the porch.

Mind you, the walls are white, so perhaps it did blend in quite well!

The evening came and after tea (if you are a northerner - like me) or dinner (if you are a southerner) the hidden machine was quietly moved into position....


Post# 377421 , Reply# 10   9/7/2009 at 13:01 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Hi Gary

you'll have to wait a wee bit longer! I am off for my tea!

Paul


Post# 377422 , Reply# 11   9/7/2009 at 13:02 (5,315 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
White sheet

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is it Michael Myers making a sequel to "Halloween" in England :-)

Post# 377426 , Reply# 12   9/7/2009 at 13:05 (5,315 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Halloween, the sequel

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it is him

Post# 377430 , Reply# 13   9/7/2009 at 13:21 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
he gatecrashed the party and we didnt know who it was at fir

How did you guess Gary?

Yep - its a slightly over weight and very oblong Michael Myers. I had to paintshop out the specs otherwise it would have been a dead giveaway! lol.


Post# 377432 , Reply# 14   9/7/2009 at 13:22 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
here ya go!

TA DA!

Post# 377433 , Reply# 15   9/7/2009 at 13:25 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Bit of a talking point...

Rob, Mathew and Seamus (to the left of Mathew) discuss with Mike...

Post# 377435 , Reply# 16   9/7/2009 at 13:26 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

a bit arty...

Post# 377436 , Reply# 17   9/7/2009 at 13:27 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

definately a washing machine, and not another tumble dryer!

see, it has wash programmes on the facia. honest - its not a dryer...


Post# 377437 , Reply# 18   9/7/2009 at 13:27 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

next to one another now....

Post# 377438 , Reply# 19   9/7/2009 at 13:28 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and they do look rather good - if a little weird, with the washer not having a powder drawer or lid!

Post# 377440 , Reply# 20   9/7/2009 at 13:30 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
the ratings plate on the D6E06 dryer....

dates it to May 1979!

Yep - seems that Hoover were making matchboxes right to the end of the 1970s!!!


Post# 377441 , Reply# 21   9/7/2009 at 13:31 (5,315 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Electra set

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OH WOW!................stacking kit aswell...........what a pair! :-)...........beautiful Paul yah sly dog........what an acheivement............they look stunning...........did you try the washer?

Ps Mike looks a bit tired there, what have you been doing to him :-)


Post# 377442 , Reply# 22   9/7/2009 at 13:31 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
whilst the A2E04 washer is a little earlier....

being from April 1977....



Post# 377443 , Reply# 23   9/7/2009 at 13:37 (5,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

thanks for the kind words Gary.

You are 50% responsible for it - many thanks for the dryer.

I will never get over how weird it is that, as the dryer works its way up the country (provided by your good self and transported by mathew), I get offered the A2E04.

Yep - we tried the A2E04 and have got some vids. Gonna be a pain though and I will upload the washer vids and daytime photos tomorrow.

In the meantime here is a vid of the dryer, with a glimpse at the washer in there too!

enjoy
Paul


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Post# 377445 , Reply# 24   9/7/2009 at 13:38 (5,315 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Congratulations, I'm a sucker for matching sets and these really do match!

Post# 377481 , Reply# 25   9/7/2009 at 18:19 (5,315 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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Sheesh...Looks like the same stacking frame we used here for the Zodiac/Electra's....

Tell me, do they have 2 inverted 'feet', one at each front corner, that insert into the bottom of the dryer?


Post# 377483 , Reply# 26   9/7/2009 at 18:26 (5,315 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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ahhhhh so this is where the Hoover Zodiac came from. The Hoover Zodiac over here lacked a powder dispenser but did have that flip switch for controlling the spin. Its practically the same machine just with different stylings to make it Australianized and also to make it look like a match to the top loaders of the time. Can anyone else see the similarities?

Awesome matching pair tho, always looks good. Takes me back to nursery when the kitchen in there had a matching pair of Hoovers of almost the same styling :-D

Matt


Post# 377486 , Reply# 27   9/7/2009 at 18:35 (5,315 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Paul

I can't believe you posted that photo of Mike, He was smiling and laughing the whole time, it's almost a caption competion.

Did someone ask what the vzug did that the electra couldn't? lol.

Mathew


Post# 377513 , Reply# 28   9/7/2009 at 21:43 (5,315 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Beautiful machines

Thanks for sharing these pictures.

I must say I do admire the simplicity of these one dial machines.


Post# 377556 , Reply# 29   9/8/2009 at 12:17 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Thanks for the comments guys!

Hi Louis. They dont half look bad do they! As you say, matching sets really have something about them. Plus they are that much harder to produce, but when they arrive the feelings of satisfaction are great.

Hi Chris. The stacking kit is a Qualtex job, provided by Mike King. Unfortunately, and we were a tad surprised by this, its about 1.5cm too wide! It is sold as a universal stacking kit, so maybe, they made it a tad wider than the norm, so as to make it more universal (despite the machines being standard width). Truth be told, we are all a tad perplexed as to why its not manufactured as a perfect fit.

Cheers
paul


Post# 377557 , Reply# 30   9/8/2009 at 12:22 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Mathew.

Its a beaut, eh! people deep in converstaion.

There is a real stormer with you in it, although i dont think i will post it. Its of richard, discussing the elctras with you, and making a point with his index finger. He looks like he is sternly telling you and rob off and you both look rather stunned.

Paul


Post# 377558 , Reply# 31   9/8/2009 at 12:23 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Ash.

As you say - simple.

Absolutely nothing complicated about them - just a dial and a long/short spin button.

still to get used to the lack of powder drawer though.

Paul


Post# 377560 , Reply# 32   9/8/2009 at 12:28 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Matthew.

For sure, your Zodiac is a derivation of this machine and its predecessors.

In fact the whole of the hoover front loader range, sold in Australia, were derived from Hoover matchboxes.

I woluld love to see pictures of the 1970s Hoover machines, that were sold on your shores.
I think they were model 460 and 465 and arrived in the mid 1970s.

For some reason, your machines were paired down, lacking a heater as well as the powder drawer. Strange that you didnt get two or three versions of the machine.

Will post some pics next to show how the Zodiac, plus mine and robs electra's, were derived.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 377561 , Reply# 33   9/8/2009 at 12:30 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The history bit now.....

The origin of the A2E04 lays with the first version of the Hoover 3235 Automatic, first sold back in 1970.

The replacement facia picture is courtesy of Mathew (keymatic3203)...


Post# 377562 , Reply# 34   9/8/2009 at 12:32 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

this was replaced by version 2, with a full width darker coloured facia, and then version 3 (shown below) with a light coloured facia.

picture again courtesy of Mathew....


Post# 377564 , Reply# 35   9/8/2009 at 12:39 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Another version of the 3235 was produced and sold through the electricity board shops.

This was model A2018 - the 'Automatic E'.

The picture is provided by cbosch and was his grans machine, whilst i did the drawing.
the bottom left image is a piccy from the TV - an A2018 stars in an episode of Hetty Wainthrop Investigates....


Post# 377565 , Reply# 36   9/8/2009 at 12:42 (5,314 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Old Hoovers

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I feel a proud door moment coming on ;-)

Post# 377566 , Reply# 37   9/8/2009 at 12:44 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The A2018 was then discontinued and replaced, in electricity board shops, by the A2E04 and the A3E02 (shown below).

The latter machine boasted the hot and cold fill, an economy button and powder drawer, akll of which the A2E04 lacked....


Post# 377569 , Reply# 38   9/8/2009 at 13:00 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Here is the first vid of the A2E04.

This vid was made shortly after the machine arrived in Crewe. The machine to the right is one of Mikes latest acquisitions, in the form of a Hotpoint 95450!

here is gently displays the old 'water down a 1970s hoover doorbowl' effect. You know what i mean....


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Post# 377570 , Reply# 39   9/8/2009 at 13:01 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
daylight!

the morning after the unveiling and the machines looked even better, bathed in natural daylight...

Post# 377571 , Reply# 40   9/8/2009 at 13:02 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

washing away...

Post# 377572 , Reply# 41   9/8/2009 at 13:03 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

...

Post# 377573 , Reply# 42   9/8/2009 at 13:03 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

just a hint of suds, going on there...

Post# 377574 , Reply# 43   9/8/2009 at 13:04 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

not forgetting the dryer...

Post# 377576 , Reply# 44   9/8/2009 at 13:05 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

waiting patiently for its new partner to finish...

Post# 377577 , Reply# 45   9/8/2009 at 13:07 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The Towering Electras

Always like pictures from this angle - the childs view...

Post# 377578 , Reply# 46   9/8/2009 at 13:07 (5,314 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
The morning after

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They look brilliant, better without the stacking kit, yea its a pity about the size bing a bit over (bloody annoying actually)

But thats nothing compared to the machines..........excellent

MORE MORE MORE


Post# 377581 , Reply# 47   9/8/2009 at 13:15 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Gary.

am just uploading another vid, but am running out of pictures so you'd better get your fill, cause the flow will soon be stopping :-(

Paul


Post# 377584 , Reply# 48   9/8/2009 at 13:29 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

here we have the vid of the machine washing its first load, after unveiling.

looking and sounding good.

enjoy.

Paul
p.s will save the last vid and piccies for later.


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Post# 377587 , Reply# 49   9/8/2009 at 13:57 (5,314 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Hi jacking

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Sorry Paul i couldn't resist this

Post# 377589 , Reply# 50   9/8/2009 at 14:26 (5,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
that is a skill you got there Gary!

Hilarious. absolutely hilarious!

A mate of mine a uni had the same skill for funny captions.

In second year we shared a house and, each evening he'd go through the paper, cutting out pictures and writing superbly funny captions on them. by the following morning they'd have been blutacked to the wall (opposite our Hoover Classica 1000).

By the end of the year, the wall was covered in funny captions and they had provided much hilarity to visitors to the house.

The more risque ones were removed, prior to visits from our parents, and re-stuck on the wall once they had gone.

Great stuff Gary.

Paul
p.s no - its not a Hotpoint toploader!


Post# 377590 , Reply# 51   9/8/2009 at 14:38 (5,314 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
dodgy skills

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cheers Paul ;-).........wasnt sure, an of course his nibs hasn't seen it yet :-/

Not Hotpoint...... BUM!



Post# 377699 , Reply# 52   9/9/2009 at 09:03 (5,314 days old) by 74simon ()        
Fantastic!

Eeeeh, I remember the days when matchboxes were talked about like they were completely extinct! What a great coincidence to find the washer after the dryer!

They're a very handsome pair, and how ace that they're both non-standard machines! I love that Electra logo with the plug on the end, my gran had a fridge with the same branding, which stuck in my mind.

Oh, and talking of Matchboxes in the media, there's a 3236H in the film 'Tommy' in a mock commercial for 'Hi' (High power, low suds) washing powder...



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Post# 377722 , Reply# 53   9/9/2009 at 11:33 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hiya Simon.

Great to hear from you and hope you are well.

Thanks for posting the link to the film 'Tommy' - brilliant to see a 3236H with a human moving alongside it, rather than just a picture.

Seeing the shiny metallic facia of the version 2 machine, makes me pine even harder to see one of the old girls again.

Although the electra completely qualifies as a matchbox - cause that what it is - the holy grail lineup really does still have to be the three basic core models for me:

3243H Keymatic De Luxe (in the safe hands of Gary)
3236H Automatic De Luxe
&
3235 Automatic

Those were the machines that spawned the rest of the line up for the whole of the 1970s and yet they are the worst represented in preservation.

I have taken a screen grab of the 'Tommy' 3236H - now waiting to be filed.

Cheers for the link
Paul
p.s i remember seeing a 3236H in the Alf Garnet programme (name escapes me), but does anyone know whether matchboxes appeared anywhere else? I have heard 'George & Mildred' mentioned before, for a 3236H.
Also, Rob has mentioned that Mrs Warbuoys (spelling?) in 'One Foot in the Grave' had an electra A3E02.


Post# 377725 , Reply# 54   9/9/2009 at 11:47 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Here is the final vid for the moment.....

.... with the machine reactivated after rinse hold, going into distribute and then a final short spin.

It really shocked me, when we first used the machine, how strong the ditribution is.

The first load we tried, in robs backyard, was fully fastened to the sides of the drum within 1 to 2 seconds.

This is how i remember my mothers 3236H machine being, whilst Mathew can remember them being more gentle. What do people think? too fast, too slow or about right?

Enjoy the final vid
paul
p.s quite what the point of coming down from spin and continuing to distribute is, I dont know.


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Post# 377726 , Reply# 55   9/9/2009 at 11:51 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

just before the final part of the programme - cooldown with high water level...

Post# 377727 , Reply# 56   9/9/2009 at 11:51 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

...

Post# 377728 , Reply# 57   9/9/2009 at 11:53 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Jumped the gun a bit with the spin vid

I should have posted it here, but anyways.....

final spin completed and Mathew digs deep in there.


Post# 377729 , Reply# 58   9/9/2009 at 11:55 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

next port of call is here...

Post# 377730 , Reply# 59   9/9/2009 at 11:56 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

gently tumbling away...

Post# 377731 , Reply# 60   9/9/2009 at 11:57 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the set....

Post# 377732 , Reply# 61   9/9/2009 at 11:58 (5,313 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Job done...

Post# 377734 , Reply# 62   9/9/2009 at 12:04 (5,313 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Tommy Hoover

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Thanks Simon for pulling that one out, great to see, maybe some LSD will help to make it all clearer :-)

Great vid Paul............sounds like my 3243........and distributes the same...........and thinking so does the AS1.....i love them

Thanks
Gary


Post# 378822 , Reply# 63   9/14/2009 at 12:02 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Before i let this thread fall into the archives....

I just wanted to post some piccies of the machine, the day after we collected it.

Thanks to Mike for driving...seen here, drinking a well earned brew from our 'Liberator' mugs (note the colours!)....


Post# 378823 , Reply# 64   9/14/2009 at 12:03 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

under close observation...

Post# 378824 , Reply# 65   9/14/2009 at 12:05 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the two newbies a bit closer up...

Post# 378825 , Reply# 66   9/14/2009 at 12:07 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

A few pics of the internals.....

Post# 378827 , Reply# 67   9/14/2009 at 12:09 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

showing the unusual, yet simple, cold fill method for this machine.

Basically feed the cold fill pipe down through the length of the steam vent!


Post# 378828 , Reply# 68   9/14/2009 at 12:12 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

as mike and rob examine.

a bit weird not seeing the powder drawer assembly in there - loadsa room...


Post# 378829 , Reply# 69   9/14/2009 at 12:13 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

was there ever a blanking plate over the hot fill solonoid space?

Post# 378831 , Reply# 70   9/14/2009 at 12:15 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and finally....

before signing off this thread - a lovely picture of cooldown rinse. all done.

Post# 378878 , Reply# 71   9/14/2009 at 13:27 (5,308 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Door Rubbers

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Paul this is a brilliant set up (not that i am biased of course)..........

In one of the fots, the door rubber appears to be the later type of door rubber that has the white plastic band clamp around it

As far as I know these are not totally suitable on proud door,round door machines, if i am talking out of my ars. then ignore me

But my AS1 has one of these fitted and i have noticed that it doesnt always seal properly, and i think you mentioned a dribble from this machine, in which case just replace it with the older fitting type and the problem should be sorted

Yours
Teknical ted
Cornwall

:-)


Post# 378902 , Reply# 72   9/14/2009 at 13:59 (5,308 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Noted Gary

Will double check when we next get the machine plumbed in.

I only remember a dribble, when the door was opened once the cycle finished. Door seemed tight against the seal, when the machine contained water.

Will heed the warning though and investigate, when she is brought out to play next time.

Cheers
Paul
p.s how is the AS1?


Post# 378909 , Reply# 73   9/14/2009 at 14:14 (5,308 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
dribbles

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Hello Paul

Maybe it is ok then, only i bought a round door/proud door rubber and these dont use a band clamp and are the same profile as the keymatic one

AS1 is supporting the ice box as present, going to order bearings and another (spare) door rubber........but im holding off for a while as i need to get a soap front (ice box handle is the same size)...........just a thought!

Gary


Post# 380275 , Reply# 74   9/20/2009 at 19:29 (5,302 days old) by deeprinser ()        

Hi ..
What a lovely pair you have there.
How I love a stacked pair.
I would love to see a stacked pair of Hot-Libs ( purple) again.
Classic .
Kindest regards.
Louis.


Post# 380401 , Reply# 75   9/21/2009 at 11:48 (5,301 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Hi Louis...

'I would love to see a stacked pair of Hot-Libs ( purple) again'

Wouldnt we all!

Maybe one day.
Paul


Post# 380449 , Reply# 76   9/21/2009 at 15:39 (5,301 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Good Lord,

Now I do wonder if we ought to consider a full 70's kitchen appliance line up especially with such a classic as this.....

Not often you see one of these.

Jackson/Moffat Highline,

I can almost see that Rotisserie chicken now!!!



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Post# 380534 , Reply# 77   9/22/2009 at 01:30 (5,301 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Highlines

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Go for it Rob..............I have seen a couple of similar type cookers at work over the years, kitchen units everything........ if only i had the room and the house to do it, i know some one who has a complete "English Rose" kitchen for sale

Yes i can see "ange" asking "Bev" if it "cooks chickens and things" :-)


Post# 380543 , Reply# 78   9/22/2009 at 05:21 (5,301 days old) by deeprinser ()        
HI Paul..

Please forgive me if someone has mentioned or asked this before but, has anyone worked or seen the "props" department at the BBC ?
Do they have many vintage machines "in stock" for 1950-70's period productions ?
I imagine a warehouse somewhere, packed with vintage appliances.... Perhaps I'm wrong ?
Kindest regards.
Louis.



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