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Post# 378310   9/12/2009 at 14:44 (5,331 days old) by pedro (London)        

Hey guys,

Noticed there has been abit of talk on here lately about spin-drains, it wasnt so long ago that i noticed the washers i use at work do this so today i took the opportunity to film them in action.

They are JLA Commercial washers, not sure of the model number but they seem to be half decent machines.

Now uploading to YouTube so will post the link ASAP




Post# 378315 , Reply# 1   9/12/2009 at 14:57 (5,331 days old) by pedro (London)        
Light load Spin Drain




Post# 378317 , Reply# 2   9/12/2009 at 14:57 (5,331 days old) by pedro (London)        
Heavy Load Spin Drain




Post# 378507 , Reply# 3   9/13/2009 at 09:08 (5,330 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I've never seen a Front Loader do that before, that's cool!

Post# 378527 , Reply# 4   9/13/2009 at 11:23 (5,330 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        
Hee, those are...

 IPSO washers, and yes they do that kind of thing. I'm not sure if they do it every time they drain. I thought that after the pre- and mainwash the machine drains completly and goes into spin. But during rinses it' performs it's spinrinse thing. It's nice to see how well the design of the door guides the water from between the drums to the middle of the drum. It creates a waterfall that splashes onto the spinnig load!

Post# 378528 , Reply# 5   9/13/2009 at 11:26 (5,330 days old) by pedro (London)        

Yeh it is interesting to watch, the machine on the left has 5 or 6 baffles in the drum instead of 3 so it gets very splashy whichever cycle it's doing but in the heavy load vid it didn't complete the final spin cycle at all as it couldn't balance, there were 2 pillows in there and they had 'balled up' during the wash/rinse cycles and they wouldnt fit into the drum pockets so the machine just couldn't balance them.

If you watch the light load vid you can see the water falling down from the bafflies in 2 different directions when it pauses. It's great for a 'normal' load of laundy or towels as it is often used for but we have alot of duvets, pillows and large bulky items to wash and it doesn't handle those so well.

The machines aren't that old, you can still buy them but they get abused and misused, as do the dryers so they have seen better days. The detergent has to be put in the drum as the dispenser just isn't powerful enough to wash the powder into the drum which is annoying.

The only thing i'd change about them is to have a clutch-type spin instead of the steady ramp up, but hey, you cant have everything, lol.

Glad you like the vids though!

Post# 378529 , Reply# 6   9/13/2009 at 11:30 (5,330 days old) by pedro (London)        

Hey askomiele, the machines are JLA but i think they may be linked to IPSO somewhere along the line....i am surprised that the machines have a rubber door-boot which looks identical to those you find on a domestic washer, they do hold a pool of water throughout the cycle though which pours onto the floor when you open the door, as you can see from the water marks down the front of the machine.

And you are right, during pre wash and mainwash the machine drains with slightly shorter tumbles and then spins, and on the rinses it does a distribution drain, the machine gets to full distribution speed, holds it for a few seconds and then you hear the drain open and the water is gone in seconds.

Post# 378532 , Reply# 7   9/13/2009 at 11:38 (5,330 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        
JLA is ...

 I guess the company that sells the unites... but I'm not sure héhé! You could be right also... Thought in scandinavia there is an other brand but it's the same machines.

Post# 378760 , Reply# 8   9/14/2009 at 04:04 (5,330 days old) by rinse_hold ()        
philips series 90

 my philips series 90 used to do this on the last spin, its was totally epic! if only i could find one i would buy it in a heartbeat!!

(pic isn't mine, but it was exactly the same!)

does anyone else have any pics of a series 90?

Post# 378788 , Reply# 9   9/14/2009 at 08:46 (5,329 days old) by pedro (London)        

Rinse-Hold i'm really keen to see one of these Philips Spin-Drains people keep talking about!

Post# 378790 , Reply# 10   9/14/2009 at 09:33 (5,329 days old) by rinse_hold ()        

so would i! I havent seen one for years! I spend my life scouring ebay if/when a series 90 comes up for sale i'll buy it and video it i promise!!!

Post# 380022 , Reply# 11   9/19/2009 at 14:26 (5,324 days old) by pedro (London)        

Just added some new vids guys, JLA washer completing a full rinse and spin cycle, including spin-drain, although it isn't as splashy as the others, and another of the dryer being loaded and started...the dryers are useless but you get some great "tumbling" action in 'em.

If you guys have any requests for vids, let me know and i'll see what i can do

Post# 380025 , Reply# 12   9/19/2009 at 14:33 (5,324 days old) by pedro (London)        
The Link.....

 http://youtube.com/user/WasherLad

Post# 381543 , Reply# 13   9/26/2009 at 12:25 (5,317 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Where is the drama?

 In the late 60s, a very nice coin laundry opened near us. We used to take our throw rugs there. The had big Milnors with the stainless steel cylinders sitting on avocado bases. They operated with water levels visible on the door glass when tumbling paused during the rinses. They always went into a distribution spin before opening the drain valve. With the flat glass door closing against the tank, the water streamed down the glass; really fun to watch. Then the drain valve opened and less and less water was seen. They spun at that speed for a while then went to a higher speed. Those were the days when you could get warm rinses in a coin laundry. Now you only find that because of the temperature of the cold water during the summer in parts of the country.

Post# 381595 , Reply# 14   9/26/2009 at 19:12 (5,317 days old) by sudsman ()        
All commerical front load and side loaders spin drain

 so to better balance the load for extract. Milnor was the first to use the system. The others followed.. Most of the machines now all have a distribution speed before a extract some even have 2 speeds before spin.. Hammond washers had a 30 second 100 rpm then went right into the 900 they made quite a noise. Very much like the older Milnors did when they "were taking off" The older balcon models ran @ 1000 and were widely used in shirt and jean laundrys and hotels and hospitals use them for the terry items. They were also great for flatwork you could go right from a Milnor to the flatwork ironer with no conditioning. on any flatwork. Still many of those machines running and quite well too.

Post# 382061 , Reply# 15   9/29/2009 at 15:54 (5,314 days old) by favorit ()        
vid : Constructa K3 (household hard mount FL)

 ... expecially hard mount frontloaders
In the late fifties soft-mount design wasn't yet common.
Even domestic washers were hard mount e.g. Miele 702, 505 and this beauty (pipe) : the Constructa K3.

My cousin had it bolted on a cast iron pedestal. I was used to our Candy SA5 ( ten years younger and soft mount) so this spin drain indeed fascinated me :-) .

Sadly in mid seventies my cousin changed it with a Lavamat Clara, cause she needed a 5 kg machine
As it suddenly spins, the same way it suddenly brakes :-)

CLICK HERE TO GO TO favorit's LINK
Post# 383920 , Reply# 16   10/9/2009 at 13:11 (5,304 days old) by pedro (London)        
Another vid uploaded.....

 Alright guys? Hope everybody is well.

I've just uploaded another vid of the commercial washer at my work, this time rinsing and spinning a large woolen blanket and pillows...and, of course, the spin drain is included!

CLICK HERE TO GO TO pedro's LINK
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