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Post# 379982   9/19/2009 at 11:25 (5,303 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Hello Guys...A friend of mine moved to a house in north philly row house, he and his wife called me a said that they had this old washer in the basement and wanted me to look at it. Well I freak out when I saw it, it is one of my dream machines, so I plug it in and it half way lit up and and it does AGITATE SOUNDS GOOD. The only problems are....

1. READY FOR THIS ONE.....I CAN'T GET IT OUT THE BASEMENT, BECAUSE THERE IS NO BACK DOOR! OR THE FRONT OF THE BASEMENT NOR A WINDOW THAT U CAN'T FIT OR DOOR UPSTAIRS THAT CAN EASE THE MACHINE OUT... THE KITCHEN DOOR IS 23' WIDE
FU&%!!!!!

2. Very dirty.

3.Missing top row buttons.

4.Scubber cap needs to be replaced or would like to get a detergent cap.

5. Bleach dispenser missing.

6. Those things are sort of minor, Compared to getting the damm thing out.
ARE THER ANY SUGGESTIONS ...CAN THIS MACHINE GET BROKEN DOWN...I know there are a lot of kenmore experts here Kenmoreguy... is one of them anybody else who have suggestions would be great... I am not going to panic it is not going anywhere lol and it would be one of the largest restoration jobs, saving this washer ever in my life encounters. Yaa know guys, and there is no rush being that things are pretty tight for me right now but would like to know what direction to take for the future thanks. Darren k.

Will here it is...






Post# 379987 , Reply# 1   9/19/2009 at 11:56 (5,303 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        
Well here goes...my best assumption...

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the machine got in there, it has to come out, juging by the age they obviously re-did some construction and thats whats making it hard to get out...NOW.....

pop the top off, label and disconnect the wires, don't forget the hose for the pressure switch....REMOVE the top, you can put that in the truck

next, disconnect the fill hose and the drain hose from the pump, remove the snubber, and with some help to hold the chasis, remove the 3 bolts that hold the rod suspension, this will allow you to place chasis on the ground, and lift the body off, place chasis on the truck

NOW FOR THE HARD PART...the base frame will have to be CUT AND THROWN OUT...it's a 25 1/2 inch cabinet, no other way to remove it.....

BUT, what you ave are all the parts you need for your dream washer, just need to find a broken one with a good base, most KENMORE/WHIRLPOOL bodies are the same to a certain point, you may find one in good condition or have it repainted, white is a common color.......

that's my only solution, if it was say a maytag the body would also unbolt and flex enough to fit, but not in this case....

somebody here has to have a BODY you can purchase, and re-assemble the whole package....

just remember to strip the old body of all parts that you may need....water valve, dispensers, feet, clips, anything of use

sorry, but that my only choice for you other guys may have alternatives....lets hope

sad part is I have a 1962 whirlpool I could sell you to use, but hate to ruin a good machine that is in very good condition, unless you want to combine 2 machines into one great one, just a thought!


Post# 379991 , Reply# 2   9/19/2009 at 12:11 (5,303 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Martin thank you ...Yes that is a great idea I might need you to help me sometime in the future lol. But I will e-mail you ok ..What part of NJ are you in, we are so close to each other I would really like to see your machines.


Darren k


Post# 379992 , Reply# 3   9/19/2009 at 12:23 (5,303 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Dirty washer 2.
I really love this washer.
Hey it's Roto-Flex !


Post# 379995 , Reply# 4   9/19/2009 at 12:40 (5,303 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
WOW!!!!

And that's a 1965 Lady Kenmore.

And you said some (or all) of the buttons is/are missing???

I would think that along with "yogitunes'" suggestion of finding a broken Kenmore/Whirlpool washer that has a good body, you may want to find another 1965 Lady K that has the same panel as your does, but still has all the buttons intact, and use the console of that machine onto your machine.

Also....... Kenmore lids have never laid flat. Kenmore lids have always stood upright, angling slightly to the left. You might want to repair the lid also.

And yes....... the old Lady needs a bath.... BADLY, I might add.

But nonetheless, I'm happy you have found your dream machine and all. Now, the hard part is getting it out of the house (preferably in one piece).

Good luck with that.

I wonder what my friend, Dr. Kenmore ("kenmoreguy64") thinks of this one???? This is going to be good one for him to figure out (as in how to get it out of the house, that is).

Also...... @ Gordon...... How many 1965 Lady K's you got again??? I think it was two, if I am not mistaking. Do you know where "aldspinboy" can get another panel from???

--Charles--


Post# 380003 , Reply# 5   9/19/2009 at 13:20 (5,303 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

I've got one just like that. Weighs a ton, but put on the hand-truck sideways is not too bad and I have some VERY narrow doorways..
Hope you are able to find a way.


Post# 380032 , Reply# 6   9/19/2009 at 15:32 (5,303 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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maybe a 1962 Whirlpool may interest you?

Post# 380033 , Reply# 7   9/19/2009 at 15:33 (5,303 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Magic mix dispenser filter....I love this feature

Post# 380049 , Reply# 8   9/19/2009 at 17:32 (5,303 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
You might not have to disassemble the machine....

You might get the space you need by taking off the framing "woodwork" of the door to the basement. By taking off both sides of the framing, sometimes a person gets a half inch to an inch.

I would be really reluctant to saw the base off of such a potentially wonderful, gorgeous machine.


But, that's just me.



Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 380060 , Reply# 9   9/19/2009 at 18:21 (5,303 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        
my suggustion...

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I've had to do this a handfull of times, so I hope this will help.
1. take off all hoses on the back of the machine( drain and water)
2. IF there is any doorways WITH doors, take off the doors completely.

that machine is worth saving!( I have the matching dryer for it, and LOVE IT!!)

Rich


Post# 380077 , Reply# 10   9/19/2009 at 19:07 (5,303 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Well I lost my writings before I posted ...Soo hear is a short version...Thanks guys for all your responses...The washer does need MAJOR work and i am prepared to take on the task at one point. But the DOOR IS VERY VERY NARROW LIKE 20 INCHES EVEN WHEN YOU TAKE THE DOOR OFF ...I MEAN I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM TO TAKE THE WINDOW OUT LOL....THAT'S HOW DESPERATE I WAS BUT THAT IS A BIT CRAZY LOL ...SOO WHAT IS THE NEXT OPTION, THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING....I HOPE TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH THE HELP FROM YOU GUY'S HERE THANKS...HEAR ARE SOME MORE PICS...

Post# 380080 , Reply# 11   9/19/2009 at 19:08 (5,303 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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WASHER..

Post# 380082 , Reply# 12   9/19/2009 at 19:10 (5,303 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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WASHER ...DIRTY TUB 3.

Post# 380083 , Reply# 13   9/19/2009 at 19:13 (5,303 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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D I R T Y ...4.
THE DIRT JUST FALLS OF IT IS NOT STUCK THERE IT LOOK'S LIKE IT ...HE HE.


Post# 380095 , Reply# 14   9/19/2009 at 20:16 (5,303 days old) by brastemp (Brazil)        

Brazilian version by 1962 Whirlpool.

Post# 380135 , Reply# 15   9/20/2009 at 00:34 (5,303 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Cabinet most challenging

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You can part this out and build the "Cadillac from your lunchbox" ;-) easily enough, if you're careful and be sure to take notes of how stuff goes back together for later. Even the baseplate will probably wrap around the doorframe like a desk with legs rounds a corner. However, the outer cabinet may be your greatest obstacle.

Look carefully and try to reconstruct how the machine must have gotten down there. When I rescued an old Philco freezer from a Kansas City basement, careful investigation revealed that the door and hinges had been removed by the installer--as evidenced by wire nuts that connected wires that ran to the defrost elements in the door. Otherwise, the 3" difference that the door and hinges made meant the difference between extricating it from the basement, or not clearing the door handle and/or coils.

There has to be a way! It got down there, and chances are, they didn't build a house around a Lady K...


Post# 380140 , Reply# 16   9/20/2009 at 00:59 (5,303 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Darren, the cabinet is 25.5" in depth. If there doorway is only 20" wide then they might have remodeled after they installed that washer. If you take it apart, the hardest part will be getting the cabinet out.

Post# 380148 , Reply# 17   9/20/2009 at 01:29 (5,303 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Just offer to enlarge

their 20 inch door to 29 inch. A lot easier than disassembling
a washing machine!!


Post# 380151 , Reply# 18   9/20/2009 at 01:40 (5,303 days old) by mattl (Flushing, MI)        

Very true. You could pick up a nice prehung door for $50. and make both of your lives better. who would want a 20" door to the basement?

Post# 380161 , Reply# 19   9/20/2009 at 06:50 (5,302 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Once it is cleaned up that LK will be a beauty once again. It does sound like a bit of remodeling to the home must have taken place. I wonder if there was once a cellar door that was accessible from outside, but then removed. When we moved into our house five years ago we had a cellar door, and all of our basement furniture was moved into the house through it. A year later we expanded the kitchen, but in order to do that we had to have the door removed. Although this is of no help to you, it could explain how the washer got into the basement. As far as getting it out, I think the suggestions posted may be your only options. At least you won't have to worry about anyone else snatching the washer, or the homeowner getting rid of it before you can move it. I wish you lots of luck.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 380162 , Reply# 20   9/20/2009 at 06:53 (5,302 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I hope you get it out of the basement, I really like the curly cue font that "Lady Kenmore" is written in. good luck alr2903

Post# 380185 , Reply# 21   9/20/2009 at 10:41 (5,302 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Darren,

I believe the shipping weight on that machine was something on the order of 250 pounds. Just like many said, you could do some disassembly, and get most of everything out of there piece by piece, but you'd still need to get the cabinet out.

Removing the baseplate/superstructure from the cabinet (that's the entire internal assembly) is not terribly difficult, however it will remain bulky and heavy, which Robert eluded to. I see a lot of dirt on this machine, but not so much rust - one problem I've come up on is rusted bolts in the corner gussets. There are two in each of the three gussets. If they are bad on your machine, it may be difficult to separate the machine from the cabinet.

Personally, I wouldn't hesitate to dismantle a machine that I really wanted if that's what it takes to get it, but I would MUCH rather improve the house with a better door before I did that.

I wish I had some spare lettered buttons for you - looks like you're missing about four. Look around the basement if you haven't already or inside the cabinet - they may yet be lingering somewhere!

Let us know what can be done - we'll help you either way!

Gordon



Post# 383033 , Reply# 22   10/5/2009 at 12:02 (5,287 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Thanks guys for all your responses. I am sorry for the late response, my mother has been the hospital and it has taken a lot of my time. Thank goodness she is getting better. So I will take note of the situation again, it is frustrating and i don't really have the time right now, as you guy's no maybe you can't always get what you want so i might pass on this one i really love the machine. Martin that whirlpool is very interesting. That is one of the first agitators i have ever seen with that cap but was a straight vane. Anyway I am sad about it but hopefully it will work out later. Thanks guy's!
Darren


Post# 383044 , Reply# 23   10/5/2009 at 12:24 (5,287 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Darren

Glad your Mom is dong better, priorities first......the agitator is the standard Surgilator, but being somewhat BOL, it only gets a small hold down cap, most repair guys tell me the reason a machine like this last so long is the "basics", 2 cycles, ONE fill level, like my mothers GE V12, One cycle, 2 fill levels, 2 wash temps, that macine ran forever, but Mom always let it rest and cool down between loads, never back to back operation....maybe she was on to something!



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